Johammadeezus on Information Elements (thread split)

[anndelise]

I said, "this cat feels a certain way". How am I talking about the conditions?

You were talking about how this cat feels about your method of petting it.

I was petting one of the cats, kind of "slapping" it on its rear end. The cat was rubbing its muzzle up against me and arching its back really high. My friend said, "don't pet him like that, you're going to hurt him". I said, "no dude, when he rubs his muzzle up against stuff and arches his back like that, it means he likes it."

"That" and "it" refers to your method ofpetting the cat.

[Olduvai]

You were talking about how this cat feels about your method of petting it.

So I was talking about the cat.

[anndelise]

You were talking about how this cat related to your method of petting.

Field = how an object relates to or interacts with another object.
Object = cat
Object = your hand
Field = how the cat felt about your hand

That is what you were talking about, how the cat felt about your hand. How one object related to another object.

You know the image of a finger pointing at the moon, right?
The moon is an object.
The finger is an object.
The finger pointing at the moon creates an invisible "field" between the finger and the moon.

In this case, though, the reactions of the cat are not the moon. The reactions of the cat are the clues as to the relational field between your hand and the cat.

[Olduvai]

Field = how an object relates to or interacts with another object.

No, this is the proper definition of "field":

A field is a physical quantity that has a value for each point in space and time. Defining the field as "numbers in space" shouldn't detract from the idea that it has physical reality. “It occupies space. It contains energy. Its presence eliminates a true vacuum.” The field creates a "condition in space" such that when we put a particle in it, the particle "feels" a force.

The field is independent of the objects; it is like the "medium" in which the objects exist. The field is "that which acts upon the objects"; it is "the conditions" under which an object operates.

Field = how the cat felt about your hand

In this case, the field would've been my hand petting the cat.

That is what you were talking about, how the cat felt about your hand. How one object related to another object.

I merely deduced how the cat felt, and in doing so, I detected an "implicit" and "static" property of an "object". It's that simple.