Ni and Increased tendency for clinical depression

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

The best way to handle abuse is to not let it control you do not let haphazard emotions run free forced by what's happening. It's to choose how you want to feel and if you can't then slowly and deliberately undo and control your reactions. Stop having ur thoughts run everywhere and only focus on one thing one goal and achieve it. Your first job is to not care what happens to you, remove frustration out of the equation. No what ifs like how hard ur life's gonna be without a leg or what if you die you don't want to die, BEFORE you figure out how to not be emotioanlly affected. You don't care. It doesn't help you now. Your goal is in the now. Question and understand what's happening. No reacting. Just perception and analysis. Then what you should do is figure out how to react, what will happen if you react in certain ways, and what is the desirable way with the desirable outcome. That's the psychopathic mindset. It's why they are immune to trauma. My whole deal was to figure out how to not be tortured mentally no matter what happens to me.

Also arrogance/delusions. If you believe urself to be stronger than the abuse unqestionably. To be able to face anything and everything of the most severe. If you ask for it and laugh at it, if you see yourself doing it and overcoming it. It doesn't scare you anymore. Because you win even if it kills you, if you believe in yourself.

[Tarnished]

It's kind of problematic because a lot of IEIs are probably in small Delta-ish towns where Se isn't valued and we just get stuck in an unhappy rut because of it. The suggestive functions are something you need assistance from others. Also IEIs are sensitive to the outside atmosphere because we value Fe. If other people around us don't value Fe a lot - it can be pretty painful tbh. A brand new environment for an IEI often works wonders at combating depression. Yet I hear Deltas often say things like 'don't be a victim of circumstances! Wherever you go you'll take your issues with you!' It's kind of dumb though because they don't realize for Betas it doesn't work that way or it's not as true for us.

It's funny that I've meet the same problem with Alpha. We have different point of view about family issues. An alpha (LII) said, kind of "if you can't fix your family problems, those problem will follow you any where, it can happen again with the new people you meet". My take is more simple: if you can't stand your family, then quit, don't bla bla bla too much.

I never understand why they try to fix their family problems so much, only to see it getting worse over time. When they cant take it anymore and share these problem to me, and I offer them some Te-Se advices, and they think these advices are ruthless (yes they are). But it's just really annoys when you hear them talk about the same problem again and again without any significant change - it make my Te-Se so piss.

[octavitharpe]

Hello @VewyScawwyNawcissist, you've shared some thought-provoking insights on handling abuse and emotions. Choosing how we react to challenging situations can indeed be empowering. It's essential to focus on the present, analyze what's happening, and determine the most constructive way to respond.

[Sol]

Depression, as one of general neurotic symptoms, has no specific predisposition for concrete Jung types.

It's essential to focus on the present

S

> analyze what's happening, and determine the most constructive way to respond.

T

From Jung types view to reduce possibility and degree of neurotic disoders should help lesser type's accentuation. What leads to lesser inner conflicts and lesser problems in life.
To arise the attention to S and T is helpful for NF types. It's better to do from valued side of weak functions.

For base Ni types - Se with manual work, sport, art - where is needed to deal with objective physical traits (forms, place). Such activity should help them to reduce negative emotional states the most.

[octavitharpe]

The best way to handle abuse is to not let it control you do not let haphazard emotions run free forced by what's happening. It's to choose how you want to feel and if you can't then slowly and deliberately undo and control your reactions. Stop having ur thoughts run everywhere and only focus on one thing one goal and achieve it. Your first job is to not care what happens to you, remove frustration out of the equation. No what ifs like how hard ur life's gonna be without a leg or what if you die you don't want to die, BEFORE you figure out how to not be emotioanlly affected. You don't care. It doesn't help you now. Your goal is in the now. Question and understand what's happening. No reacting. Just perception and analysis. Then what you should do is figure out how to react, what will happen if you react in certain ways, and what is the desirable way with the desirable outcome. That's the psychopathic mindset. It's why they are immune to trauma. My whole deal was to figure out how to not be tortured mentally no matter what happens to me.

Also arrogance/delusions. If you believe urself to be stronger than the abuse unqestionably. To be able to face anything and everything of the most severe. If you ask for it and laugh at it, if you see yourself doing it and overcoming it. It doesn't scare you anymore. Because you win even if it kills you, if you believe in yourself.

You're sharing some fascinating insights into how to deal with challenges and maintain mental resilience. Our mindset indeed plays a significant role in how we handle difficult situations. Choosing how we respond to adversity and focusing on the present can be powerful tools.
It's also important to remember that seeking support is a sign of strength, and sometimes, talking to a mental health professional or reaching out to mental health hotlines can provide valuable guidance and assistance when dealing with issues like depression and emotional challenges.
Thanks for sharing your perspective, and if anyone here ever needs someone to talk to, remember that mental health hotlines are available to offer support and assistance.

[ThomasWalsh]

It makes sense that with Ni, individuals might feel a heightened awareness of future outcomes and past patterns, which could contribute to a sense of helplessness or frustration.

[idol]

Why are we considering only negative effects ?

Awareness of time can also lead to mood inprovements with the belief that most bad things will pass. Time is healing and Ni types are supposed to know it better than others.

Therefore, i heavily disagree. Tendency for depression may be related to just introversion because of possible social isolation/ lack of social contacts.