Help me type Britain's famous National Treasure?
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I'm a complete noob at typing people, so I'm really not sure. Any ideas?
Help me type Britain's famous National Treasure?
Video:
I'm a complete noob at typing people, so I'm really not sure. Any ideas?
The worst thing that can happen is it goes to Hell...
ILE, I'm pretty sure.
Quaero Veritas.
Sticking with ENFj
ILE > EIE. Definitely Ne/Si over Ni/Se.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
So much Ne in that interview.
I said IEE but come to think of it ILE may be more likely. Ne dominant at the very least
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
ISTP
SF and NT duality? or at the very least the same quadra?
Interviews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgS6YSGvFCw
Sketch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNoS2BU6bbQ
INTp
sx/sp
riiight. nothing useful then...
i was thinking ESE and LII
INTp
sx/sp
Hugh Laurie is ISTj. Stephen Fry seems like an ENFj.
Hugh is my dual.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Fry is ESE or EIE, he's like Eddie Izzard and Eddie Murphy had a baby...
Hugh Laurie is LSI as hell.
Last edited by Gilly; 01-01-2013 at 05:07 AM.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I liked this series when I was trying to type them. This is part one.
Fry is a Ti valuing ethical extrovert (EXE). Laurie is harder to pin down. I like LXI, but I could see an argument for IEI. SEI seems silly but I suppose wouldn't be the worst typing in the world.
One of my favorite speeches by Fry.
Easy Day
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Translation: "I watched House, and I believe ALL characters that I watch are what the actors are, because, you know, theyre paid to deceive me."
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
yea. i can see LSI for Laurie and ESE for Fry. seems to work better.
Fry doesn't seem Ni. Seems for Si from interviews. Though Fe is obvious i guess.
INTp
sx/sp
Stephen Fry is a fantastic example of an EIE and Hugh Laurie is an equally fantastic example of an ILI.
Yes, Stephen is Hugh's SUPERVISOR. Watch this from 3:00 onwards, taking extra note of how Stephen talks about Hugh from 4:20 onwards.
"I spend a good 90% of my life trying to make Hugh more confident" kinda sums it up.
Fry has delta ST appearance, but he is an ENFP, just like Laurie.
I just spent 90 minutes watching a film called Wagner and Me, hosted by Stephen Fry. He is so deeply moved by the powerful music of Wagner, and so deeply conflicted by the anti-semitism associated with Wagner, being of Jewish heritage himself. He is obviously Fe valuing, and has moments of lightheartedness that come across as alpha, but I do not think he ILE. There were moments when I could see that same almost geeky earnestness that I have noticed In other Betas. I type him as EIE. He is very much like me. But I am not as funny, of course.
You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k
Hugh - ISTj-Se so/sp
Fry - ISFp so/sp
Why benefit?
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...Laurie said he had a "pretty instantaneous" friendship with Fry, and they have "barely" had a cross word between them in all the years of their friendship.
"That's not really natural, is it, to never have a cross word? It seems odd," Laurie has stated.
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I also don’t see IP temperament in Fry. He is also physically awkward in a way that I don't associate with sensors.
You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k
Fry is an incredibly erudite interlocutor and has stated he is a very empirical thinker. He is also a staunch atheist. He is a writer of nonfiction and fiction, he is a good comedic writer and actor but says he is more a jack of all trades, not motivated to excel at much besides writing. He is fascinated with history. He was close friends with Christopher Hitchens. His friendship with Laurie he says was just about instantaneous and they naturally and easily understand each other. He has said it was like a non-sexual falling in love. My guesses are EIE>LIE>ILE. He does not come across in speech as an ESE in any fathomable way.
Edit: I wanted to add that Fry says he and Laurie really connected in the way they hated things, bad comedy, etc. I think that’s not very Alpha or Delta.
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PS Not sure about LIE but just compare Fry’s expressions to the LIE females in the center of filatova’s LIE photos. A lot like Fry!
He's (Stephen Fry) probably my identical, in any case.
Last edited by aixelsyd; 04-07-2021 at 04:31 AM.
Fry seems SEI to me. I don't understand his ENFJ typing.
Hugh Laurie mb EIE. Fe/Ni shows its head in this video although somewhat subdued but it's def. there.
Fry I'm not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if EIE-Harmonizing (thus lending to confusion with SEI although that type should be different enough)-
Last edited by Rusal; 07-23-2022 at 04:19 PM.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
Hugh Laurie: Balanced-stable. Management. LSI. He reminds me a lot of Clint Eastwood.
Stephen Fry: Flexible-maneuvering. Scientist. ILE.
Relations of Supervision, interesting...
Are you sure? Too expressive in interviews and does that thing EIEs do which is manage crowds with his look and comment on situations more eloquently and picturesquely (play-pretend phone call and listen to his multiple interjections) more than LSI I believe. I do believe he's N-H subtype.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
Fry EIE
Laurie LSI (LxI)
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Stephen Fry is ILE.
Hugh Laurie, I think, is an introverted Delta. Yes, he plays an ILE in House, doesn't mean anything about him.
Jack Oliver Aaron (ILE)
Founder of the World Socionics Society