discojoe

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 01:08 AM

I've talked to a number of people about Peter's type. I haven't said much on the forum, but I'll go ahead and put up a poll anyways. There are people voting shit like ISTp and ISFj in my thread, so I'll keep the choices pretty minimal.

I expect people who I don't talk to outside of the forum to vote ENTp for the most part. That's okay. It would prolly be rude for me to describe our personal lives in depth here on the boards... so it really can't be helped.

I'll say this about him though

Fi > Fe (Fe is generally aggressive and arrogant when used)
Ti > Te (not bad use of either)
Fi > Ti
Se > Si

http://the16types.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2034

according to the erotic attitudes, he is most definitely the aggressor

**aestrivex** · 07-07-2006, 01:34 AM

he hasn't posted sufficiently seriously in order to gain any glimpse of his type. nonetheless, if you put a gun to my head i say ESTp.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 01:39 AM

He does seem to display more Se than anything overall in his posts here. Yeah, the Ti is there. this poll, in all honestly, is mostly for those who I've actually had conversations with on the matter. I anticipate most people to ENTp, just because that's what he's always been thought to be and he doesn't portray his irl self at all on the boards or in the chat. Even when we thought he was ENTp, I always got frustrated with people for comparing possible ENTps to him, telling them that Peter is nothing like what he portrays himself to be here.

**Gilly** · 07-07-2006, 02:11 AM

My guess is, as always, ISTj.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by gilligan87

My guess is, as always, ISTj.

his relations with ENFjs says otherwise

**Gilly** · 07-07-2006, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Joy

Originally Posted by gilligan87

My guess is, as always, ISTj.

his relations with ENFjs says otherwise

As I've stated in the Intertype Relations forum, I've seen that this can sometimes be the case.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 02:18 AM

ENFjs and ISTjs having horrible relationships in which both people are miserable and there is a level of understanding and communication that is not reached?

**Gilly** · 07-07-2006, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Joy

ENFjs and ISTjs having horrible relationships in which both people are miserable and there is a level of understanding and communication that is not reached?

Mmhmm. It's incredible how little Socionics matters when the people actually have other things going on in their lives. Especially if there are mental health issues involved.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 02:24 AM

true

mutual attraction makes it easier though

**discojoe** · 07-07-2006, 02:30 AM

ISFp

Creepy-Diana · 07-07-2006, 02:35 AM

.

**Gilly** · 07-07-2006, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by discojoe

ISFp

I always knew I would marry a writer.

**Cone** · 07-07-2006, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by gilligan87

My guess is, as always, ISTj.

Ditto.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 04:43 AM

wow. I never knew that Fi was one of an ISTjs strongest functions.

if not the strongest... but I'm gonna go with sensory subtype most likely

**Cone** · 07-07-2006, 05:11 AM

Wow, I never knew discojoe had any Fi whatsoever.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 05:29 AM

yeah... like I said, he's nothing like he is on here irl

**Kristiina** · 07-07-2006, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Joy

yeah... like I said, he's nothing like he is on here irl

Oh that's why you put up with him.... :wink:

Discojoe: I bet you're the regular teddy bear in real life.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 04:49 PM

hmmm I wouldn't use "teddy bear"... he's cuddly, but not soft

the russians swore he's INFj, and I had 2 main reasons this cannot be true:

1.) there are a lot of functions stronger than Ne

2.) there are few, if any, functions that are as strong as Se... he's just simply not as soft as INFjs

**discojoe** · 07-07-2006, 09:44 PM

I still am not satisfied with Joy's reasoning about my type, and I do not think

can be my PoLR.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 09:47 PM

lol

you're so cute honey

**Cone** · 07-07-2006, 09:54 PM

You seem to me, discojoe, like a social commentator who uses strong logic and aggression to make your points. You also seem to know people's weaknesses inside and out. My ISTj friend was like that, that's why I say ISTj.

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 10:07 PM

if peter doesn't have a Ne PoLR, he's INFj... this is extremely unlikely

**XoX** · 07-07-2006, 10:09 PM

I typed the function relations you presented into one of the new tests in the forum (I used simple heuristics and my personal experience to fill in the parts that were only indirectly specified) and here is the result:
http://www.people.iup.edu/rdxm/ptest_results.htm?Type=2 / INTp

So..I cannot vote for ENTp or ISFj since both are wrong

It seems you are an ESFp/INTp couple (if you are duals that is). Make a vote on that

**Joy** · 07-07-2006, 10:14 PM

An ESFp with worthless Fi and Se?

I certainly hope not

**discojoe** · 07-07-2006, 10:29 PM

Who cares anyway.

**XoX** · 07-07-2006, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Joy

An ESFp with worthless Fi and Se?

I certainly hope not

I thought Se = power, Fi = friends how is that worthless?

You once said you pwn your environment which kinda sounded like Se dominant to me. You also seem very generous, loving and supporting towards your family and friends and good at making new contacts which could indicate strong Fi. At least the ESFp/INTp thing is something new to think about

**discojoe** · 07-08-2006, 12:13 AM

Clarification:

I do not consider Joy's reasoning to be necessarily invalid or illogical. Joy is a very good logical thinker (believe it or not

). My main problem is that anyone could argue to me that I am any type and make it sound feasible, as I lack a concrete perspective of Socionics on which to correlate my ideas with someone else's.

When it comes down to it, most type arguments sound made up to me.

**maze** · 07-08-2006, 08:28 AM

=)

**olduser** · 07-08-2006, 08:30 AM

**Joy** · 07-08-2006, 08:56 AM

yeah... when I ask him what type he is, he says he doesn't think of himself as having a type.

**discojoe** · 07-08-2006, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by heath

?

:wink: :wink: .

......

!!

?

.

**Raver** · 07-08-2006, 07:57 PM

I hardly know discojoe, but if I had to choose a type for him, I think it is possible for both discojoe and Transigent to be ESTP logical subtype IMO.

**Joy** · 07-13-2006, 04:13 PM

I agree that they're the same type, but most certainly not ESTp, which is one of my least favorite types. And I have known people of both ESTp subtypes.

**diamond** · 07-13-2006, 04:48 PM

I thought intp could be close. We could be contrarys.

**Zeia** · 07-13-2006, 10:47 PM

Joy, Please bolden which traits of Se you do not have.

Jung's function: Extraverted Sensing

Socionics function: black sensing - force - volitional sensorics

outward traits of object - shape, old vs. young, worth or cost, appearance, energy of object, strength, readiness, willpower, mobilization

Positive(short range):
Deduction of authority, insubordination, protection, defense, retaliation, counterattack, hardness, upholding of the interests, strong-willed pressure from below upwards, will power, possession;

Negative (long range):
Capture of authority, submission, attack, aggression, attack, the initiative, persistence, insistence, strong-willed pressure from top to down, the statement of the interests due to others, overthrow, weakness, lack of will, mastering.

**Joy** · 07-13-2006, 11:04 PM

for me? or discojoe?

**Zeia** · 07-13-2006, 11:10 PM

You

**Joy** · 07-14-2006, 12:11 AM

http://the16types.info/forums/viewto...=103937#103937

Creepy-aurora_faerie · 07-14-2006, 02:17 AM

uuhmmmmmm.....gay?

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