Out of curiosity, why would you (or anyone else) consider me an INFp?Originally Posted by In another thread, Transigent
Out of curiosity, why would you (or anyone else) consider me an INFp?Originally Posted by In another thread, Transigent
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
nope.
EII
I'll tell you what
there is plenty wrong with me
but I fixed up a few old buildings
and I've planted a few trees.
I've never really thought about your type, to be honest. You've never stood out to me.
No way. You remind me of rockclimber, by the way.
The fact that Transigent said you and I are the same type - INFp - does not mean you are not INFj.
You seem to be very Te>Ti.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I strongly suspect you're INFj, Minde. Your recent religious explanation (in the valley of the shadow of death thread, I think?) struck me as being fairly Ne. And your Fi is difficult to overlook, although hard to describe in the form of evidence. It's just a certain aura you have.
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
This is what I was referring to as sounding Ne:
Originally Posted by Minde
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
Isn't that Fi^[sup:88917b8f3a]infinity[/sup:88917b8f3a]?
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Maybe the content, but the way of explaining it? It sounds like my writing style, at any rate, and I'm supposedly oh-so-Ne.
Originally Posted by Logos
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I pity your souls
Oh, yes, I meant the contentOriginally Posted by Elro
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Minde values . Also, her descriptions of the people she knows are consistent with her relationships with them as INFj. I think a whole lot of information would have to be seriously wrong for her to be INFp.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
And let's not forget about her interactions with some of the people here.
Minde is INFj.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
infj-ay. definitely get the supervision vibes from her! :-) which is not necessarily a bad thing...
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Oh dear.
ENTp
I see Minde as a definate INFj. Theres something cute about her little flower and even her name Minde.
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
You relish every minute of this game, don't you? No reason for you to stop now. People do play along because it gives them a chance to talk about themselves.Originally Posted by Transigent
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
LOL
ENTp
You're a silly goose, Transigent.
Thank you, Baby, for the clarification.
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
I'm not just doing it for random reasons to cause a fuss. I just noticed something that reminded me of many INFps. Hell, I at least got UDP in the right quadra.
The religion things prove nothing, as it isn't something Minde made up herself, so we can't really draw any conclusions from it. Besides, if you were to draw conclusions, I think you would be seriously mistaken to say > for religion. You break the law, you pay forever? God=good, and pure good and pure evil don't mix. Etc. This is all some type of reasoning.
Anyway, like I said, all these things are taught dogmas, and have been around for a while, so it can't really tell us anything type wise.
Oh well, you seem pretty confident in your INFj-ness, so good for you and eyey-ting, but you just seemed too "sure" or whatever to be an INFj (unlike Baby/Scrummy/Silly-long-moral-ranter who seems more INFj > INFp LOL.)
ENTp
I agree with this, FWIW.Originally Posted by Transigent
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Perhaps it would help to say that I see what I said there and elsewhere as mostly facts, not theoretical constructs. So, me saying to you that God is good is like me saying that the sun provides the earth with heat and light. Or, when I think of spiritual laws I think of them as being as real as physical laws, like gravity. To me, it's just... what is. The spiritual world is not separate from the physical. Because of that, what I believe affects what I do and who I am. And it also means that I treat spiritual matters in much the same way that I treat how I learn and interact with what I can touch and see. For example, I will revise my position as more information comes to me. There are some things I am more sure of than others. There are some things I've experienced for myself, and others that I've only heard of or observed.Originally Posted by Transigent
Whether that's or or or what, I'm not sure.
And that's another thing. Just as science and the physical world is separate from type, but different types see it and respond to it differently, so it is with what is not physical. I don't see spiritual reality as something that you can tie to a type. I think different types of people respond differently to what they perceive of the spiritual world, or, rather, spirituality as it manifests itself. But it's all the same reality that they're responding to.
For example, my ESTp boss. He is one of the most solid and sincere Christians that I know. He is one of my spiritual role-models and mentors. But he definitely has a very different personality than me and he approaches things differently. He is very into the practical applications of what he believes. Bible studies with him usually focus on scenarios where we act upon what the Bible says, with a firm emphasis on literally interpreting Scripture with no deviation. In contrast, I'm not as focused (in some ways) and I'm more likely to start exploring connecting topics. He's more linear in his thinking, I'm a bit more cyclical. I'm also a bit softer when contradicting someone. He and I are different, but it's the same God, the same Bible, the same reality that we are in. We have come to the same conclusions, we share the same belief. I don't think it's a fluke of socionics. I just really don't think you can take spiritual beliefs in and of themselves and tie them to functions, temperaments, or dichotomies. How you approach the belief? Maybe yes. The belief itself? No.
What do you mean "sure"?Originally Posted by Transigent
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.