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    The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (most Alpha movie EVER EVER EVER), Bad Santa, Animal House, The Iron Giant, The Science of Sleep, Equilibrium, Ferris Bueller's Day Off

    Themes: silliness, imagination, naivite, awkwardness, expression, thwarting authority

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    Harold & Maude
    Life is Sweet
    The Mouse That Roared

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    - Office Space
    - Monty Python and Holy Grail
    - Fight Club (-style)
    - The Army of Darkness
    - Big Fish
    - This is Spinal Tap
    - Animal House (?)
    - Blade Runner
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    Quote Originally Posted by vague
    Harold & Maude
    I think that's Gamma, with an INTp/ESFp duality.

    The Science of Sleep
    Ooh I wanted to see this (as well as an ESFj I know )

    More:

    The Goonies (as well as anything by Steven Spielberg)
    Stranger than Fiction
    Fiddler on the Roof
    The Truman Show
    When Harry Met Sally
    The Girl Next Door
    Wallace and Gromit
    Waking Life
    Groundhog Day
    Groundhog Day
    Airplane!
    anything by Woody Allen (I know some of you guys would disagree with me on this one)
    Election (Alpha's view of Gamma)
    Amélie
    I Heart Huckabees
    Napoleon Dynamite

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    The only way I'd endure the majority of those movies is if I was with a quality, quality individual.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    The only way I'd endure the majority of those movies is if I was with a quality, quality individual.
    That's ok, I don't like Monty Python or the Life Aquatic. (Though Wes Anderson's other movies are awesome.)

    Quote Originally Posted by vague
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    Quote Originally Posted by vague
    Harold & Maude
    I think that's Gamma, with an INTp/ESFp duality.
    I agree with the typings. Not sure why, but the vibe struck me as more Alpha than Gamma despite this [the anti-authority, valuing play over productiveness themes in the movie].
    Maybe 'cos they are irrational.

    Productiveness?

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    Garden State
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    Yeah, that was a tossup between Beta and Alpha for me. I think it has a more Alpha childish feel overall, but for some reason it screams IEI to me.

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    I don't remember the last movie I could completely enjoy
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    Re: Garden State
    Quote Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
    Yeah, that was a tossup between Beta and Alpha for me. I think it has a more Alpha childish feel overall, but for some reason it screams IEI to me.
    I certainly think that an IEI could extrapolate romantic themes from the movie, but Andrew, the protagonist (LII), has a HA, as can be seen in his epiphany about his use of anti-depressants and the state of his own happiness. Andrew shows democratic qualities in his jugdments of others (his friend is a gravedigger). At the party, Andrew mostly keeps to himself, but shows signs of emotions as a result of a kiss from spin-the-bottle. Also, he is attracted to, in a natural state of ignorance of the duality, to the talkative and -friendly Sam (ESE). Sam acts as a societal plug for Andrew and provides him with much needed in a way that creates a familial sense of comfort .

    Again, it is not hard for the IEI to find romantic or Beta qualities to the movie, but I am not sure if there are any real Beta characters present in the movie and the themes are quite Alpha. The sort of quirky and odd humor () present in the film is also indicative of Alpha over Beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    I don't remember the last movie I could completely enjoy
    Why does that matter when identifying movies that are most likely Alpha? I am able to see why Equilibrium would be an Alpha movie, but that last fight when a man's face was cleanly cut off by a katana completely ruined the entire movie for me. I unable to completely enjoy the movie, but I can still recognize the movie for what qualities it possesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    That's ok, I don't like Monty Python or the Life Aquatic. (Though Wes Anderson's other movies are awesome.)
    Bottle Rocket (kakaw! kakaw! ) I think I might even go out on a limb here and say it's about ENTp (Owen Wilson) and ISFp (Luke Wilson) duality (not the actors but the characters)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    That's ok, I don't like Monty Python or the Life Aquatic. (Though Wes Anderson's other movies are awesome.)
    Bottle Rocket (kakaw! kakaw! )
    Jog my memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    That's ok, I don't like Monty Python or the Life Aquatic. (Though Wes Anderson's other movies are awesome.)
    Bottle Rocket (kakaw! kakaw! )
    Jog my memory.
    that was their first movie (written by Wes Anderson and Owen Wilson) where Owen Wilson "busts" Luke Wilson out of the loony bin and they go on a bumbling crime spree. If you haven't seen it deffinately torrent that shit and watch it. It's a great movie (especially if yer into Wes Anderson :wink: )

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    Yeah I saw the movie, but I don't remember the "kakaw" reference.

    edit: I think I missed that part.

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    oh, that was the signal for trouble... like when Owen Wilson gets in a bar fight he starts yelling "kakaw kakaw!" right before he gets his ass thrown out.

    sorry... I've seen that movie like 50 times

    I really like Rushmore and The Royal Tanenbaums too... (The Life Aquatic not so much)

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    uh, Zoolander.

    LOL hilarious

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    Stripes

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    those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often

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    Police Academy series
    Back to the Future series
    My Fair Lady
    Breakfast at Tiffany's
    Roman Holiday

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    My Fair Lady -- that seems more Delta to me.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    My Fair Lady -- that seems more Delta to me.
    We will just switch out My Fair Lady for Delta and Singin' in the Rain for Alpha then. :wink:

    ETA: I may go back and in a new post go into more of an explanation for my choices similar to how I overviewed Garden State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I think most movies about people with crazy ambitions who go insane trying to acheive them are Alpha (Aviator, Pi, Beautiful Mind, etc). The dissapointment of empty promises and broken dreams is the sad side of Alpha, the part of reality (Ne quadras) or consequences of their actions (Ni quadras) that they have the hardest time coming to terms with (think, for example, irreconcilable problems with society for Delta, self-destruction for Beta, and xenophobia/isolation for Gamma).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GillySaysGoodbye
    I think most movies about people with crazy ambitions who go insane trying to acheive them are Alpha (Aviator, Pi, Beautiful Mind, etc). The dissapointment of empty promises and broken dreams is the sad side of Alpha, the part of reality (Ne quadras) or consequences of their actions (Ni quadras) that they have the hardest time coming to terms with (think, for example, irreconcilable problems with society for Delta, self-destruction for Beta, and xenophobia/isolation for Gamma).
    In Gamma's case, isolation, yes, even in the sense of becoming a hermit -- but not xenophobia in the sense of targeting foreigners ("strangers", yes; foreigners, no :wink: )

    A good point about the sad side of Alpha, in that case I think Marie Antoinette with Kirsten Durnst would definitely be an Alpha movie, as Diana suggested to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    In Gamma's case, isolation, yes, even in the sense of becoming a hermit -- but not xenophobia in the sense of targeting foreigners ("strangers", yes; foreigners, no :wink: ).

    Yeah, that's how I was hoping for it to be interpreted.

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    In that case

    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    I really like Rushmore and The Royal Tanenbaums too... (The Life Aquatic not so much)
    Yes, those two are my favorites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    I think Marie Antoinette with Kirsten Durnst would definitely be an Alpha movie, as Diana suggested to me.
    Unfortunately I have to agree with you.

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    Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is Alpha for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    A good point about the sad side of Alpha, in that case I think Marie Antoinette with Kirsten Durnst would definitely be an Alpha movie, as Diana suggested to me.
    agree very much with this. kirsten dunst played a pretty great ISFp "overgrown child ruler."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Weekend at Bernie's
    Yes that's so very Alpha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Weekend at Bernie's
    Yes that's so very Alpha.
    I am beginning to realize that my ENTj sister likes Alpha comedies. She liked that movie a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Weekend at Bernie's
    Yes that's so very Alpha.
    I am beginning to realize that my ENTj sister likes Alpha comedies. She liked that movie a lot.
    I also like Alpha comedies, very much. But I tend to see as "fun but pointless" Serious Alpha films tend to bore/annoy me.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    Hook

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    Actually Hook is more Gamma than Alpha. It's Alpha only on the surface.
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    Serious Alpha movies suck.






    ...just like lighthearted Gamma movies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Actually Hook is more Gamma than Alpha. It's Alpha only on the surface.
    Over-serious businessman becomes child again, defeats foe non-violently. How is that not Alpha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterpark
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Weekend at Bernie's
    Yes that's so very Alpha.
    I am beginning to realize that my ENTj sister likes Alpha comedies. She liked that movie a lot.
    Absolutely.

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    Umm...

    Punch-Drunk Love
    Boogie Nights
    "Life Is Beautiful"
    Bad News Bears
    Finding Nemo
    Toy Story
    Mary Poppins
    Achtung Baby.

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    ok, I'm not sure about these, but here:

    Borat
    Shaun of the Dead
    Hot Fuzz
    INTj

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