There are basically two forms of socionics: pure sociological, behavioral and in-depth, psychological that looks at how sociology forms (classical).. That’s why I prefer the ladder, but admittedly, I do fit the ITR patterns of iei better than of eii.. even though I wouldn’t be iei at all in terms of mental/vital track.
I am in my head; not society.
Yes, that is who I am, hence the bold am. Also, a brain angel. (+ my own incarnation of a Zelda concept).
My thoughts align w action to succeed what needs (at least in my dreamed ideal, they do)…
Dragons:
Babies, click them to make them grow up into Kara’s Dragon Museum
My favorite adult Museum Exhibits
You can argue that socionics is more focused on sociological things, so this wouldn’t be entirely inaccurate to focus on, but all behavior roots in from how someone internalizes information, which is why I believe modern socio is deficit. The ego blocks are rarely ever emphasized when others give socion” typings, and then aushura believed in the shadow, and this isn’t yet apartof socio.
I am in my head; not society.
Yes, that is who I am, hence the bold am. Also, a brain angel. (+ my own incarnation of a Zelda concept).
My thoughts align w action to succeed what needs (at least in my dreamed ideal, they do)…
Dragons:
Babies, click them to make them grow up into Kara’s Dragon Museum
My favorite adult Museum Exhibits
I noticed today that she still thinks I'm too good for her, and I've realized that she expects constant affirmation of my feelings/interest in her..because of my previous relationships I guess, but I told her that she is like no one I've ever met before...
That got me thinking what it is that she sees in me that makes her insecure. I'm naturally weird as hell (but I can fake being decent in front of other people), and I have almost no common sense.
These days she was making fun of me because I drank 2L of water in one go because I was very thirsty. I also have poor coordination and have very little attention to details. She doesn't seem to notice my weaknesses, which is expected, I just didn't know her insecurities would still come to surface sporadically though.
Even though I have reasons to feel insecure as well, I guess that never made me feel inferior
Last edited by BrainlessSquid; 05-01-2024 at 05:42 PM.
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
She is now fully accepting of my Ne (and I have learned to better direct it) and I've basically understood all the main aspects of her behavior with me. She's not predictable yet, but I have managed to handle everything she "requests" me.
But summing up, I basically have to constantly show that I care about her, show that I'm angry If I get angry, and take advantage of my " scatteredness" to entertain her when she wants my attention or wants to talk.
Everything is very smooth by now and we are entering a pretty companionship-like phase.
I guess I can call this a new phase in our relationship..
We've managed to deal with the beginning stages...from now on, everything internal (relationship wise) will be amazing and free. Maybe we will face external demands and pressures, but having her as my safe place makes me feel completely grateful.
I will start thanking God everyday for her life.. I just should have done it a lot earlier
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
I noticed that I don't know what's like to stay mad with her, like usually happens naturally due to unexpected misunderstandings, etc.
In my case, when some misunderstanding happens, we just can't do anything else if not discuss what has happened until the problem is solved.
From my perspective at least, we don't hold any grudges after discussing anything that has deviated from the norm.
Yesterday I made a huge mistake.. I didn't prioritze her. We had a misunderstanding, and instead of discussing with her to solve the issue, as I had an appointment early in the morning and didn't want to "not sleep" in case the discussion would take too long, I said I had to sleep and left her. So that hurt her feelings and she had a terrible night. But the next morning we discussed for some time and I reinforced all the good things about her and how much I appreciate her. We're ok now, like I said, we don't hold grudges, but today I know she's feeling a little down because of my attitude, and she also knows that she shouldn't take what I did as anything other than thinking about the external world and ignoring our internal world for a while. And she knows I'm not 100% wrong, especially because I often prioritize her in detriment of other things that could potentially be justifable as worthy of my attention.
Good thing is, after the discussion, I had some insights which I kept on a note, and I feel this was a turning point in my life...
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Today, instead of simply fighting, we had a sane conversation about something I misinterpreted, letting each other speak in due time. It was smooth and 100% constructive. I'm proud. I'm pretty sure we will tend to discuss issues like this from now on.
The fights era is over guys (we are in year 3000, where the wars have ended, and peace is the rule).
Let's wait to see if I'm right about this though
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Most of the previous arguments were:
1. She sometimes wants me to pay attention to the details and specificity of the situations and not say things in a general, vague and abstract way.
2. She doesn't like my assumptions and speculations without much backup data (even though I know she expects that unconsciously, and I don't tell her that lmao)
3. Different meanings we give to different words
4. My detachment, aloofness, scattered ways, extremism and lack of balance.
Basically I can say she is still not fully dualized, because I have literally never started a fight with her. And she is the one who used to suffer the most in the relation, and she had to do some soul searching.
But..
Things with her have gotten much better over time, and she is way happier than when I first met her. She is brighter, smiley, and fulfilled.
Hopefully, today was a stepping stone into our journey of self discovery, and we solved a misunderstanding in absolute peace. And it feels amazing for us (she values comfort, and I value it too to some extent)
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Hmm I've given up trying to understand our relationship from a theoretical standpoint. It will simply be amazing no matter what I conjecture about it. No matter efforts I take or don't take. Afterall the best outcome always comes when I just follow my instincts.
She is my dual and I don't have to type me or her, nor expect anything. I didn't make it work, it worked by itself and it will work for as long as it wants to.
I give up, I completely surrender to it and hope everything keeps as good over time.
Also, no point in writing here. No one will understand a glimpse of what it really is like. I've said enough for now.
Time to enjoy without labeling things
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
If anything I can see creative Fi, because as an EII I could never be this open with my Fi like this loool.Originally Posted by BrainlessSquid
You can't just leave us hanging like that bro.
You may have noticed that I'm not going to write much here anymore..
I just want to say a few things.
Firstly, when I first got interested in duality, I wanted the fun, passion, love, and enjoyment that it could bring.
I didn't know though that there's so much more to it about relationships that I hadn't cared to focus on.
And this experience has made me realize what loving really means and has given me a glimpse of my purpose as a singular individual but that may apply to everyone as well.
"Keep evolving and becoming a better person with your actions (not your words alone) (for yourself and for others)"
That phrase alone doesn't seem much appealing and is pretty cliché I guess, but once it made sense to me, the real meaning behind it which can't be described in words appeared as a new form of existence as a person.
I hope I don't give anyone false hopes about happiness through relationships, It was never my intent.
I would just advise anyone who's reading this to not get caught up in just reading stories and theories and go out and experience it yourself, if you're not doing that already.
"Keep evolving and becoming a better person (consciously, using your intellect) with your actions (not your words alone) (for yourself and for others)"
Last edited by BrainlessSquid; 05-23-2024 at 03:25 PM.
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
What will you do with typology now, and in the future do you think?
Like this part of my chronicles are done, it evolved, we evolved, and I know my type, and my duals.
Black & white is a shallow divide, division is the color that multiplies
If you can wash your brain, your brain isn't a wash, it is awash
To experience is simple, to explain is divine
Hearts of stone are a dead giveaway: no movement
Typology (especially Socionics) has helped me understand that there's someone out there who's a good fit for me.
It's not useful in the sense that it helps my relationships much, but it gives more clarity and is basically against the current trends in relationship advice..
So I guess most of the knowledge I will not forget and some typology material is ingrained in my subconscious. Hopefully it will still do me some good.
I think once you really get typology, it's unnecessary and impossible to ignore it. I just don't think I need to study it or think about it to any extent other than noticing people's types.
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Yeah, it is def. ingrained subconsciously, any self discovery is part of identity in us, and permanent.
Do you wish your SO would partake of typology?
My wife rejects it, doesn't want to walk around in a confined box. It is limiting to think of limits is the motto.
Black & white is a shallow divide, division is the color that multiplies
If you can wash your brain, your brain isn't a wash, it is awash
To experience is simple, to explain is divine
Hearts of stone are a dead giveaway: no movement
Yeah, funny thing, she thinks the same. She doesn't like to think she can be reduced to patterns and for her typology is very limiting as well.
But I have taught her some basics on cognitive functions and she finds it intriguing, and it has helped her understand me better. She also uses typology language now that I taught her the basics.
But she has no idea about Socionics, even though she has said multiple times that we are hot and cold, up and down, north and south, two sides of the same coin, etc (in her own words), so she has accepted the fact that we have opposite functions.
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
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