Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuyStoleMyBike View Post
I notice that when you talk about power structures, you never seem to talk about them in an objective way. There is the power structure, the people involved, your position within it. Your achievements are not completely independent from those, but puts you at a certain place in the power structure. You don't seem to talk about this in a way that recognizes these structures and manipulates them to your advantage. In order to do that, you have to detach from your personal views, opinion, deduction, whatever it is, and interact with the power structure as a power structure. Use it against them, for you.
It goes like this ceo>gm>director>manager>.... My manager favours one coworker due to his relationship, so it is clear that she has the upper hand due to other things. There are lots of other directors that reports gm. I was not supported by my own department. I didn't try to get their good graces if this is what you are saying. I chose to work with other departments instead since they are also connected to gm. I earned a promotion and also an opportunity that I want to use more than having this job. There are lots of other details but what I did worked better than I can imagine but how could I manipulate it otherwise in your opinion?

If this is not what you are saying, can you give an example? because right now I think I did what you described in the best way possible, but my main purpose wasn't to use it against them, it was about this thing working for me.


Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuyStoleMyBike View Post
When they say it will make you look bad, its not because your opinion, or you as a person would be 'bad'. Its an image thing, it makes it seem that you don't respect the different position of different people. Ultimately, we are all human, but in a corporate structure, there are unwritten rules in how to interact, depending on culture and so on. It's not personal, its not about whether it makes sense to you or not. It's there as a structure of organisation, and a way to manage complexity of the business as a whole.
Many people fail at their position, so I'm not critisizing you for saying some of it doesn't make sense. But it has a purpose regardless.
Ofcourse I don't respect people who tries to block me. I am not going to act according to those people's words or unwritten rules, especially if it benefits them and puts me in a bad position.


Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuyStoleMyBike View Post
I can see that as confusing. I don't think this excludes Se PoLR though. Se dom would never get bullied in the first place, or at least they'd make it stop, because they instantly recognize what it means for them in terms of the position they have to others. You needed more people to join in before seeing that, and then acted on it. Se ego would see through it without more people joining, if they even get in that position to begin with. IMO.
Bolded part is not true, I have seen it. They may or they may not stop it, it depends. These kind of statements started confusion for me. Because if that was true, then Se-polr doesn't suppose to do it either, it goes both ways.