That's cute yes, but no. It's too formulaic, although that girl's hat is pretty cute I gotta say.
That's cute yes, but no. It's too formulaic, although that girl's hat is pretty cute I gotta say.
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I'm an ENTp and just got out of a disaster relationship with an INFj. Tried to ignore what I knew for the longest time about intertype relations and tried to make it work, and the underlying issues prevailed and manifested themselves in different ways week by week. But yeah.... ISFp is my relationship ideal now so I'd like to know how to spot one when I see them. I know I could look it up, I just thought someone here might have some experience or might be one themselves.
I wish there were more threads like this. I've always wanted to make one for ESEs but then felt self-conscious. Also, I was worried I'd typecast all ESEs in my head and then I'd just continue to limit my potential date partners trying to find a pure ESE. Anyway, no ideas for your SEI search, sorry .
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that was fast. sorry to hear
honestly most of what i can think of SEI's sounds like a bad strati description... quieter, kind of sedated but can be pretty social, may seem childish or naive, may initially seem calm/stern but will compulsively laugh and smile, similar to SLI's but smiles have more different variances (SLI's always smile the same smile), kind of jokey, possibly irresponsible, female ones will usually have some stereotypical feminine qualities but also "grounded" (not as aristocratic as beta NF), may dress pretty well or have artsy style, may have creative interests, blah blah. alpha sense of humor.
I notice the strong Si, it feels like a distinct and heavy physical presence to me (not weight related), but dunno if that helps you.
look for IP temperament and then the SFness. lolol. it will get easier w/ time.
this might be an SEI:
oh and the ones i know are NOT stupid!!! dunno how commonplace that stereotype is but I know when I read the description I hadn't met many and then after meeting them I was like "dang, these people be kinda insightful, actually."
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Well, as cliche as this sounds... the first night when we met in a group of friends my now-husband kept teasing me and jokingly convincing me to eat sweets...
Basically don't look for a "type", chances are that if you meet smn you get along with who doesn't get offended by your sense of humour, but playfully banters away with you and is not your identical - this person might be SEI.
Oh, and I agree with what @lemontrees wrote, so-called "type" does not constitute the level of intelligence, that stereotype is just offensive.
Just let things unfold naturally. I know five people currently who are SEI - and they are very different people with some similarities, that's all...
Good luck, hope that you'll meet smn you feel happy with (SEI or not, but smn who accepts you and vice versa )
Well, in general yes. Although it's hard for me to imagine what i.e is Se-PoLR humour supposed to be like and who and how could get offended by it?
I'd say for Fe and Fi PoLRs finding smn who doesn't frown when they make a joke might be more noticeably a breath of fresh air than for other types. Just saying.
that's true, I hear you...
I guess i meant like people dont feel much pressure on the POLR from duals. Another thing i'd like to add, and maybe you can confirm whether i'm right about this or not, is that duals can argue and disagree about things, it's just that in spite of the argument, reconciliation is relatively easy and the fights dont make you hate each other. If anything the mind broadens, understanding (of life, etc) deepens, and appreciation of the person grows.
A relationship without fights and arguments may as well be conflictor, because you never get close enough to have them.
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No, you don't feel much pressure on PoLR. You're free to be "you" warts and all. Arguments are short-lived and usually are more of a discussion than a full-blown argument. If it gets heated then usually both parties want to reconcile fairly quickly. Arguments/discussions are aiming to improve things, to reach a mutual understanding and move forward, so basically I agree with what you wrote.
erm, Idk, I wouldn't call it a relationship if the distance is so big between people. I know 2 ESI females who are in a wider circle of my friends and we instinctively keep our distance, we don't fight cause we just don't have a chance. But they do rub me the wrong way even though both are good people.A relationship without fights and arguments may as well be conflictor, because you never get close enough to have them.
From a distance, SEIs look chill and friendly but somewhat "in-their-own-shell", attentive and responsive to other people. They either seem normal/witty/dynamic (the Fe subtype) or intelligent/sensual/considerate and somewhat laggish (the Si subtype).
Enjoy: verbal play and exchanges that show off intelligence and wit; "cultured" discussions (movies/games/books); prickly verbal retorts and teasing jokes that make fun of someone in a good-natured way; conversation, explanations, and talking in general (talkiveness is in general a trait of Alpha types that separates from from Beta types that tend to be more action oriented, and so many SEIs have the 'gift of the gab').
Turn offs: simple, laconic, straightforward answers; too much "reality" and "factualness" in conversation; physical directness and "calling things their names"; lack of what they would perceive as wit, absence of social/cultural 'swag' with a person (SEIs get "suggested"through Ne; Te and Se repel them).
SEI-Fes quickly adapt to others and are very dynamic in conversation, even unpredictable. They brighten up any interaction by making random statements and playful teasing quips and jokes that poke fun at someone else. Dip into imaginative storytelling (Si is introverted perception after all). Make things light and playful. Enjoy light verbal discussions and arguing, where their conversation partner always has something witty or intelligent to retort.
SEI-Sis are "smooth flowing", laid-back, even suave in conversation. Seem supportive, considerate, and attentive to whomever they are talking to; they as if "envelop" the other person with their attention, consideration, and care. Prove to be very demanding later on. Don't adapt to other people all that well, and are more contentious than SEI-Fes. Do much more "teasing" and poking fun at the weak spots of others as if challenging them "prove me that you're better/more capable than this". It's not apparent right away, but SEI-Sis are actually strongly expressed "strategists" by Renin and tend to know exactly how they want things to be.
In retelling events, SEIs may change the factual flow of events (Te PoLR) yet their stories contain sufficient details to seem more down-to-earth and realistic than those of Ni-egos. They may add details of their own - this is because Si, their base function, is a subjective, introverted element that doesn't quite perceive reality "as is" but shapes it according to SEI's subjective inner world. Due to this, SEIs who have a talent for writing and literature, and show creative aptitude above average, get easily mistaken for Ni types.
Most common mis-types for SEIs (on this forum at least) have been IEI and EIE, since very few people are able to tell apart Si and Ni, and many younger SEIs (teens, 20s) don't exhibit the 'caretaking' trait, and seem much more free-spirited, active, socially and culturally informed, which is stereotypically attributed to Beta types.
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My IEE-Fi bookkeeper just divorced her ILE husband of many years (because, she said, she thought he'd grow up when they got married, but that never happened, and she wants a man, not a boy) and she is trying to get him to never bother her again (their son still visits his dad), and she's doing that by trying to find him a Dual.
She says that she doesn't bear any ill-will towards him, that he's super inventive at work and a nice guy, but he's just not the guy for her. No, not at all. And maybe her guilt at leaving him will be assuaged if she thinks she's left him with someone who will take care of him. Perhaps by leaving him with a Dual.
Such is Fi.
She asked me what SEI's look like, so I showed her a few pictures of them, including this woman https://i.imgur.com/KrBzvKR.jpg and this one in the video, along with her ILE-Ne husband: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZNYDzNGB-Q
The IEE looked at my examples and exclaimed "They all look like kindergarten teachers!"
"That's right. Can you guess why?"
She thought about her eighteen years with her husband, and started to laugh.
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MissDucki, she found an SLI Dual for herself and said the sex was the best but he wasn't smart enough for her.
She said that her ILE ex has sunk into despair and he is only seeing his mother and his sister, both of whom hate the IEE, so maybe they are Alphas, too.
You know, getting all those ducks to line up is not easy.
Lol what does a kindergarten teacher even look like
Chronic "grass is always greener" syndrome
Like this, obviously: https://deadline.com/2020/08/kinderg...nt-1203004720/
Oh, wait. That guy's LIE, an SEI's Conflictor.
OK, maybe not like that.
My 69 year old SEI mom to my 68 year old ILE dad:
”go to a warm shower now because you got all wet out there in the rain and will get sick!”
”don’t eat any more pistachios, you will get a terrible belly ache like last time!”
”you are NOT scraping the mold off that old slice of bread to eat it to save money!”
”don’t put on that shirt with all those holes and stains in it, it’s embarassing!”
”you fool, those planks will surely slide off the roof rack because you aren’t tying them down properly!”
”watch out with those power tools, you know your bleeding stops so slowly!” (talanov nods knowingly here)
To me: ”go help your dad now with the chainsawing, he’s such a klutz but you can handle yourself!” (It’s like she knows i’m a sensing type despite not knowing the first thing about typology, both of my parents always remarked on me being strong physically unlike my siblings who are intuitives)
Also ILE have these illogical weird health habits like my dad refuses to use othe toothpicks than wooden ones, usually refuses any medication like painkillers when sick, only uses bar soap etc. He only likes health related things from his own childhood.
My mom is an SEI, I've worked in customer service and HR roles before so I've known many different SEIs.
They typically sacrifice some style or impact in their look for their comfort. Meaning they aren't the type of girl to typically wear heels to work. They will wear loose comfortable clothing. Sweaters and all that.
Or this guy might be the type to bend the dress code rules a little where it's supposed to be business casual and they come in with jeans and somehow pull it off.
They will be super chill laid back people. I haven't seen a lot of them show stress all that much.
The SEI will talk a lot about people a lot, typical SF stuff. What they are doing, who they are seeing, where they went out to.
They have a quirky sense of humor, and I've heard many SEI say specifically they don't like dry humor.
They're pretty easy to spot imo.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Yeah that’s basically me.
Though, not the stress stuff lol. Jk, it just shows easily when I’m stressed but I do it with a smile
I wish I could sacrifice comfort for fashion sometimes but it’s not possible man. I tried but I can’t. I hate feeling uncomfortable in my clothes. I still really like heels though.
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Sacrificing comfort for style was something I did a lot more when I was younger. I think this sort of has to do with what type of style someone likes. I used to wear a lot of heels when I was a teenager, even though I could barely walk in them, but they looked good. I used to wear a lot of outfits that weren't the most comfortable but looked great on me. But with other things that I don't really like much, I'd prefer comfort over them.
But yea, bending the dress code thing is true. Business casual is kinda ugly lol
Talking about people is something that I don't like doing actually. I get annoyed when people try to do it with me, like I find it so boring. If it's like celebrity stuff then yea, but everyday people, no.
Chronic "grass is always greener" syndrome