“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Fi base are actually among the most rude people around ime
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My memory is not very clear about this. Remember your opinion as IEI and that related to types was there.
> You have said that EII are "lesser rude" or similar.
This one I said.
I even have a "scientific experiment". Among two girls which I typed to EII, annoyed a little and then retyped to EIE and ESI. EIE has started to insult me by "bad words" after ~3 monthes, while ESI after ~2 years. It's seen that base Fi are more polite in several times!
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as the typing thread was censorshiped, opinions are placed here
Your nick contains the term "nerd" - you perceive yourself so. This term is usually applied to technically interested intellectuals - relates to T.
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The problem of typers alike Gulenko by Internet is that they mostly use _words_. They know a few about you, but try to type by the limited behavior shown in the typing process - where it's not hard to control yourself.
While words are easily to be changed, to filter the objectivity to influence to be typed to some type. The ones who know Jung types theory and have an opinion about own type or wish to have some type may significantly distort own description related to types, intentionally and not.
If typers used nonverbal behavior as main data (as I prefer) - there would be lesser possibility to be misleaded by this way.
You have 2 types in your profile: EII and IEI from Gulenko. As for example, you was inclined to think your type as F before typed by Gulenko - you could significantly fool him.
When a random forum's noob has agreed with IEI with a useless comment, you've wrote a glad reply. You've commented other noobs also. When I've pointed on your more possible T type based on your videos - you have ignored. You may to have emotional motivation to think your type as F. Emotions and truth in a thinking - match not good. This could be among reasons why you doubted in your type for years, - as did not wanted to accept a truth due emotions, while there was enough time for this.
You've closed the thread soon without rational reasons - because of negative emotions from opinions that your type may be other than you want.
The main use of Socionics is IR theory. It can and should be used to understand own type and the typology. Mistakes in types with the usage of IR theory lead to problems. With the emotional approach to own typing you are predisposed to mistake.
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Yeah, actually down to her core she is über rational LSE stressed out of her unfortunate womanhood which disturbs her logical faculties in extremely drastic manner.
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I closed the thread actually because I felt it was misplaced and misguided. I do appreciate all feedback on my typing - I am not censoring based on people giving me different opinions. I do appreciate your opinion as I appreciate others and I do apologise if I’ve given you any other impression. I believe you consider me LII now? I have to be candid and say that’s not a type I’ve considered. I have believed I’m an Ethical rather than a Logical type though that said, it is possible that you are right and I’ve been naive to not consider ever being a Logical type. I am sincere when I say I will be looking into this.
I have been struggling with typing for years. I am not the only one though so I don’t appreciate being made to feel stupid and wrong for not being confident in my own assessments and understandings.
This is all I’ll say respectfully now on the matter. I’m taking (yet another) step back. I do appreciate insights from yourself and others, but I don’t want to discuss further.
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@Suspiria EIE
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@timber LSI (uncertain, seems beta ST though) [New]
I've hung out with a few EIE dudes before and seen some online. You vibe way more like them than any SLE I've known.
Still 20% chance of being wrong. I'm not absolutely certain. But I feel like it fits better. Beta STs are more like @Northstar or CS Hyatt. You're a lot closer to Robert Anton Wilson in terms of how you come off to others. You're warm and gregarious more than intently sensory or logical.
I think a lot of people misunderstand Se and Fe. Fe "feels" like it would be Se because Socionists associate Se with a sense of force. And they often feel force around EIEs, but it's an emotional force they feel, not sensory. Any Se they have is still noticeable. Strong Se isn't felt like that.
Actually eie was the first typing I ever gave myself when I found socioncis. However as I studied the system more I learned my ti and si are too good for it. In fact my biggest beef with the typing is si polr. I feel like I'm pretty in touch with si
Jon has me as ESE.. perhaps that could fit better? Both fe base
I think EIE. ESE is more like @heptayooooo. Or however many O's are in his name lol.
The thing about polr is that you don't know how bad you are at it because you're that bad at it.
The introverted polrs are not as apparent anyway. They're less glaring errors and more really small mistakes or critical blunders.
Or if they do make some kind of social faux pas it's something like not noticing the discomfort of other people.
Yeah that's not me. I'm really quick at seeing how I make others feel..
Types that value Si prefer to spend their time doing enjoyable activities rather than straining themselves to achieve goals. They like to believe that if activities are done with enjoyment, people will give them more effort and time, and also becoming more skilled at what they are doing in the long run. They believe that goals should suit people's intrinsic needs rather than shaped by the demands and constraints of the external world, and so do not try to force others into doing things they don't want to do. They also try to be easygoing and pleasant, preferring peaceful coexistence to conflict, except when their personal well-being or comfort is directly at stake.
Also this makes Si sound like it's in my ego block, or at least valued. Maybe I'm ILE. Looks similar to EIE. NE base have the most trouble typing themselves from w hat I read. They can consider all sorts of types and shit and see themselves that way.
Maybe emotionally but I don't know about sensory comfort. I remember you showing me a picture of you standing with your coworkers, and you had that mack daddy vibe going while there was at least one person in the photo who didn't seem all that comfy lol. But you didn't really notice or take that into account. Fe is not so much about noticing others feelings as affecting the feelings of others anyway. Fe is Fi ignoring.
Ahh.. I know the pic you mean. Actually I did notice. I purposely hovered my arm cause I saw he was already uncomfortable and I wanted to make him more so for the lolz. He was uncomfortable because he hates taking pics not because of me. I just upped his discomfort to amuse the other guy in the pic and myself cause he's always such an asshole it was funny to see him vulnerable from things as simple as picture taking and close physical contact.
So yeah.. Seems too good for Polr.. I'm always fixing my friends postures and my own as well, or telling people I live with to go sit in another chair for work because it's bad for their back the one they're using for so many hours.
The 3rd guy in that pic is actually EIE
Eh that video doesn't really show him. This is better. Have given similar speeches to friends lol
https://youtu.be/DtRuU71kuQE
I did. Doesn't change that extraverted Polrs(Se, Fe, Te, Ne) are apparent because of the absence of reaction to external stimuli in the best case, and shocking reactions against them at worst. Doesn't change that it's the same weakness as introverted Polrs: denial or misperception of reality. What now boss? I read it again again? No, I have a better idea, you read my posts again
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Sorry.... EII didn't feel right to me. I think this one fits.
I think subteigh is uncommonly intelligent and somewhat reserved about some things, maybe why people think he is a logical type. Idk, I’m not into typing forum members anymore. just some thoughts.
agreed. I really enjoy our communication in the chat. whenever I meet an EII and we have similar interests we often end up talking for hours. it's probably the creative function that bounces back and forth, in this case Ne. I also have been wondering if he is a harmonising subtype since our communication is very smooth. I feel the same way about Adam's subtype.
I also noticed that this creative function dynamic is more common for rationals, while irrationals have a similar interaction when the base function is identical, like ILI and IEI really connecting through art, or SEE/SLE doing a lot of things together in the real world.
I could well be ILI, but I doubt I'm -dual-seeking. Of course that would be contrary to classical Socionics.
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Kiana: SEE
Aramas: Fi introvert
SlytherinPower: ESFx
LemurianLo: SLI
kalinoche: F base, mb EII or ESE
aster: I can believe a high strung IEI, if not then EII~ NOT ESI
kingslayer: SLE
Comatose Zaniac 007: ILE
Aylen: IEI
Number 9 large: SLE
Chakram: LSI
Vex: EIE (mb IEI but find Ne ignoring unlikely)
PissholeMan: IEE
Uncle Ave: LIE
Adam Strange: LIE
Alonzo: LIE
sbbds: SLE
Tommy: SLI
Cybel: SLI
Suspiria: EIE is growing on me
Thor Mkbr: EIE
Consilience: EIE, mb LIE
shotgunfingers: Ti ego, not SLE
Northstar: LSI
inumbra: IEI > ILI > SEI
Eliza Thomason: ESE
Maritsa: ESE
Duschia: ILI
thegreenfaerie: not LSI, Fi > Ti
nanashi: LIE
Outlier: ILI (second choice, LSI)
Tallmo: SEI
Olimpia: xEI leaning Ti heavy SEI
ouronis: xII
Subteigh: EII (seems too delta for LII)
Fay: ESI > IEI
ooo: IEE
Reyne: something Fi introvert enneagram 9, mb ESI
MrInternet42069: not ESI, IEI most likely
WinnieW: LII
consentingadult: IEE mb ILE
voider: SEE
ashlesha: ESI
Chiquichiquaquiles: xEI leaning IEI
FreelancePoliceman: LII
grumpyvic81: SLE > LSE > LSI
toska: EII
Megatrop: Ne base
queentiger: too enneagram 3 to type
Sol: LSE > LSI
inaLim: SLE, second choice LSI
Ryan: LSI
Kill4Me: troll
khcs: LSI
Anglas: LIE, second choice ILE
maniac: ESI
Emily: xEI, leaning SEI
Rusal: 4D Ni > SEI
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