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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-some-of-them/

    ^ An interesting article which makes the case against the "shy Trump voter" explanation of inaccurate polls. FWIW, the Trump voters that I've personally encountered have not been shy. LOL.

    This pollster seems to disagree, though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    There's one guy who predicted that the outcome of the 2016 election would be Trump, not Hillary. He was right. His name is Alan Lichtman. He predicts Biden will win this election. Look up the 13 Keys if you want to know more.

    Yeah, so uh, this is like, the next president of the United States ... ..



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    Why has the only president we've had who was born after 1946 been Barack Obama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Why has the only president we've had who was born after 1946 been Barack Obama?
    I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Yeah, so uh, this is like, the next president of the United States ... ..


    Yeah. It is. Better than Trump but not great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Why has the only president we've had who was born after 1946 been Barack Obama?
    We live in a plutocracy?

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    FiveThirtyEight currently give a 89.16% chance of Biden winning.


    A 71.9875% chance of the Democrats winning the Presidency, the House, and the Senate (including the 2 independents in the Diplomat total).

    A 16.7425% chance of the Democrats winning the Presidency and holding the House, with the Republicans holding the Senate.

    A 6.4275% chance of the Republicans winning the Presidency and holding the Senate, with the Democrats holding the House.


    The probability that a state will be the tipping point (that gets the winner to 270 electoral votes:

    Pennsylvania 36.5%
    Florida 14.3%
    Michigan 7.7%
    Arizona 6.4%
    Wisconsin 5.3%
    North Carolina 5.2%
    Georgia 4.2%
    Nevada 3.4%
    Minnesota 3.1%
    Texas 2.4%
    Ohio 1.8%
    Colorado 1.5%
    New Mexico 1.2%
    New Hampshire 1.1%


    For the Senate, FiveThirtyEight currently has:

    a 84.17% chance of a Democrat gain (or flip as Americans seem to call them) in the Colorado election
    a 77.7925% of a Democrat gain in the Arizona special election
    a 68.1075% of a Democrat gain in the North Carolina election
    a 62.9225% of a Democrat gain in the Georgia special election
    a 59.05% of a Democrat gain in the Maine election

    a 57.3725% chance of a Republican hold in the Georgia regular election
    a 57.71% of a Republican hold in the Iowa election
    a 68.5825% chance of a Republican hold in the Montana regular election
    a 76.9525% chance of a Republican hold in the South Carolina election
    a 77.01 % chance of a Republican hold in the Alaska election
    a 79.7475% chance of a Republican hold in the Kansas election
    a 85.785% chance of a Republican hold in the Texas election
    a 87.6725% chance of a Republican hold in the Mississippi election

    a 87.1325% chance of a Republican gain in the Alabama election

    a 82.7925% chance of a Democrat hold in the Michigan election

    Their current forecast for the electoral college:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    Trump has been playing "Y.M.C.A" and "Macho Man" by the Village People at his rallies, seemingly oblivious that they're gay anthems. Seeing him and the Republican crowd dancing to it I imagine an alternative Nuremberg Rally.
    Liberals complaining that liberal Trump who does not bann gay pride parades plays those songs... smh. Media brainwashing is miraculously effective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    Liberals complaining that liberal Trump who does not bann gay pride parades plays those songs... smh. Media brainwashing is miraculously effective.
    The brainwashing affects conservatives, too. I keep hearing them say how liberal Trump is some kind of "God fearin Christain" or something, lol. People see what they want to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    The guy and his party are homophobic.
    I'm not sure he is. He's a New York City liberal, I doubt he cares. It's telling I think that the Obergefell is basically the only Obama policy he didn't roll back.

    Shortly after winning the 2016 election, President Donald Trump said he's "fine" with same-sex marriage and believes it to be settled law: "It's law. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean, it's done."[115] This somewhat contrasted with a previous statement he made in June 2015, after Obergefell v. Hodges, in which he said he's personally for "traditional marriage" and that he believed same-sex marriage should be left to the states.[116] In that same statement, however, Trump admitted that overturning Obergefell is not realistic. Several of his federal appointments have also, subsequently, announced they will uphold same-sex marriage and enforce the Supreme Court ruling, while still being personally against same-sex marriage,[117] namely Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-s..._media_figures

    I also think it's a bit of an oversimplification to say that about Republicans broadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    I'm not sure he is. He's a New York City liberal, I doubt he cares. It's telling I think that the Obergefell is basically the only Obama policy he didn't roll back.
    I've seen no evidence he's a "New York liberal". He's only ever in it for himself, in an utterly petty and small-minded way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-s..._media_figures

    I also think it's a bit of an oversimplification to say that about Republicans broadly.
    I was talking about the Republican party specifically - members in general, although more widely non-members but loyal Trump supporters.

    This source by PinkNews may be biased, but they are probably the best people to ask:
    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/06/0...a-great-again/

    Also, there's this:
    https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/...-donald-trump/

    I didn't really think I needed to search for remarks he made about homosexuals because his disparaging remarks towards everybody are well-known.

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    Not every President can have a two-term presidency, but hopefully he'll be able to find a life term in another walk of life.

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    These are from exit polling done by FOX NEWS:
























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    Joe biden will be the first president from the silent generation...history has been made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Some presidents can not complete even one term, but hopefully you will be able to enjoy the new normal.


    That Trump had a serious chance of winning two presidential elections means that I am unlikely to want to do a tour of the United States anytime soon.

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    thanks for new comic show




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    lol at libertarians.

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    A movie should be made about this guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    Trump has been playing "Y.M.C.A" and "Macho Man" by the Village People at his rallies, seemingly oblivious that they're gay anthems. Seeing him and the Republican crowd dancing to it I imagine an alternative Nuremberg Rally.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...34663453913093

    Everybody knows that male SLEs are either closet or latent homosexuals. Female SLEs can be either hetero- or homosexual, but if they are heterosexual, they are also into being face fucked and spanked.

    On a more serious note: The Nuremberg Rally idea isn't as far fetched as you might imagine. The Sturmabteilung after all was a rather gay organization. So is everyone who rides a Harley Davidson bike.

    Don't get me wrong: I have no problems with people that are openly gay. I have a problem with people that deny their sexuality.
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    How long can it possibly take to count the votes, this is ridiculous, an embarrassment

    also I can’t believe Biden and trump are the best our country can come up with. Biden seems inept and trump is being an embarrassment having a little hissy fit (I don’t agree with how he is handling this situation). It’s just simply embarrassing. What a shit show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Don't get me wrong: I have no problems with people that are openly gay. I have a problem with people that deny their sexuality.
    yes thrust the light into everyone's secrets, for they live in closets within closets, and they must know this at all times (as though it's just one closet with a single simple door), for if they do not know their denial, their sexual repression of any kind (not just regarding sexual orientation) is a secret sin. and secret sins must be exposed to the light. one's sexuality must be a constant confession on their lips for one is new in every moment. chanting about one's sexuality with frequency will leave nothing in the dark. the light dwellers will feel safe again for another's business is now their business. for truth and openness and everything being just what it appears to be!

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    With Biden taking the lead in PA, who is going to tell Donald Trump that the fat lady has sung the blues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    How long can it possibly take to count the votes, this is ridiculous, an embarrassment

    also I can’t believe Biden and trump are the best our country can come up with. Biden seems inept and trump is being an embarrassment having a little hissy fit (I don’t agree with how he is handling this situation). It’s just simply embarrassing. What a shit show.
    Don't blame Biden nor Trump, they are not the cause of the problems, they are only the symptoms of trend that is playing out on a much larger scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    yes thrust the light into everyone's secrets, for they live in closets within closets, and they must know this at all times (as though it's just one closet with a single simple door), for if they do not know their denial, their sexual repression of any kind (not just regarding sexual orientation) is a secret sin. and secret sins must be exposed to the light. one's sexuality must be a constant confession on their lips for one is new in every moment. chanting about one's sexuality with frequency will leave nothing in the dark. the light dwellers will feel safe again for another's business is now their business. for truth and openness and everything being just what it appears to be!
    I like your writing style. The issue isn't so much about people that shut up about their sexuality, because the ones that shut up have it under control. It's about the ones that chant lies whether willingly or out of blindness; thereby bringing to the light the issue they are blind about. The light dwellers didn't ask for it; yet those mermaids who sing their shame, their hate of otherness or their ignorance make it everyone's business. The echo of their songs fills the light dwellers with disdain at worst, and pity at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Everybody knows that male SLEs are either closet or latent homosexuals. Female SLEs can be either hetero- or homosexual, but if they are heterosexual, they are also into being face fucked and spanked.

    On a more serious note: The Nuremberg Rally idea isn't as far fetched as you might imagine. The Sturmabteilung after all was a rather gay organization. So is everyone who rides a Harley Davidson bike.

    Don't get me wrong: I have no problems with people that are openly gay. I have a problem with people that deny their sexuality.
    I thought this video was also amusing (the comment about the guy in the background with the "WTF?" face is spot on): https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/...30179932164096

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    Well, I do have to say I’m pretty pleased with our Indiana governor, Eric Holcomb
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    This pollster seems to disagree, though.
    and now he can say once more: "I TOLD YOU SO!"

    wisconsin Polls:

    trafalgar: 47.5% biden, 47.1% Trump
    CNN poll: Biden 52%, Trump 43%

    with 99% of votes counted:
    Biden: 49.4%, Trump 48.8%

    I read in a Dutch newspaper that one of the strategies applied by Trafalgar is not to ask people what they vote themselves, they ask what their neighbors vote. That kind of out-of-the-box thinking is simply brilliant.
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    *bows*

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    So much vote fraud going on while ballots are being counted. Hundreds of thousands of votes are ILLEGALLY not being counted and honored, changing the election results. SAD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Trump View Post
    So much vote fraud going on while ballots are being counted. Hundreds of thousands of votes are ILLEGALLY not being counted and honored, changing the election results. SAD!
    I image you saying this in the same defeated tone, and with the same bleak face, as in your last press conference. Your testosterone level will keep decreasing with each rat leaving your sinking ship.

    Not that I favor Biden, you are simply an incompetent autocrat. we need a better one, someone that really has balls without the overt narcissism. Couldn't even win an election. You fucking loser...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Trump View Post
    So much vote fraud going on while ballots are being counted. Hundreds of thousands of votes are ILLEGALLY not being counted and honored, changing the election results. SAD!
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    I was watching LCI last night (French news station) and they were interviewing this guy (not sure who he was) about Trump's defeat, and he said something interesting, in paraphrase:

    Quoting from a passage of Michael Wolff's book Under Fire Trump's idea of becoming President of the United States came from a conversation he had with Rupert Murdoch about becoming a media mania. Rupert Murdoch, who Trump absolutely admires, told Trump that if he wanted to become a media mania, the best way to do that was first to become President of the United States.

    Who knows. Maybe this was just a step for Trump to become the "media mania" he wants to become.

    Now Trump is going to play golf at Maro Lago, knowing he lost the election and there is not much he can do about it. He is still president for a few months, then he may retreat for a bit. But he won't go away, you shall see him again - beyond all the politics.
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    Trump achieved some significant things during his time in office, most of which will gr8tly benefit his family in the long run as well as powers outside of the USA, to which the Trump family is tied to via blood ties (aka married into the fold).

    Similarly to previous presidential candidates his decisions and actions do not really benefit the actual population of the country, which is why he lost the support of anyone on the right lucid enough to fully comprehend wtf was actually going on (about 5%). It seems that it is easier to do the bidding of lobbyists, than to stay the course and attempt to do what ppl actually put him into power to achieve (or so they thought). In this sense he really was just there to be a media mania outside of previously mentioned benefits for his family and the ppl who allowed him to become president.

    I used to think people were somewhat rational and could put two and two together to form realistic and reasonable conclusions when they are given the data. Trump's election has proven this assumption to be wrong. They are easily influenced by propaganda on either side it seems. This imo explains why trumptards are capable of cognitive dissonance similarly to leftytards.

    Good luck with the continuous wars in the middle east.. idiots.





    I bet Biden will kick the bucket 2 years in and Kamala Harris will replace him lol.

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