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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
@Beautiful sky
due to superego IR we'll never accept best traits of each other
it's a tragedy
to get your "fuck off" shouts everyday. I'll be so missing it
Sol
Introverted because it’s all his ideas and doesn’t come from objective sources
F because he doesn’t use objective information to make his typing
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Could you guys please stop quoting Sol? I have Sol on ignore, and your quotes of his posts confront me with their nonsense despite them being on my ignore list. Or at least till the forum software vendor comes up with a solution so quotes of blocked members are also ignored! Thank you so much for your cooperation!
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Filatova, being EII, too was unreasonable and amoral because she liked typing people and we know now that is so bad for EII to do because EII are obedient gentle wives that cooperate and listen to LSE an have no mind of their own to think and be as they ARE
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Hmm Maybe you really are not EII. Having Fi as your first function, you shouldn't be amoral ?? This is how it looks.
Chill out.... Rejecting in such an aggressive manner and not even considering these options really looks like weak Te.... How do you know that you are definitely EII ?? We should strive for objectivity to learn the truth.... That's what this site is for. And not for to cheat yourself and Therefore, to get your favorite type......
Last edited by NuclearWar666; 06-15-2020 at 10:56 PM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
1) Don't blindly believe what others claim about a person. See for yourself.
2) Don't blindly attribute all behaviour to type/personality, the specific situation usually has a much bigger influence on behaviour than type or personality. People often make this error in attribution though
@Beautiful sky
another possible LSI here is @toska
you may kiss him too
1) Yeah. Best argument. I think you are biased. I don't believe in anything. When it comes about belief for now, you insist and believe in her type. This is not blind faith, because the arguments are mine. And I just see some facts and presumptive evidence that would indicate that it could really be IEI or EIE. I'm not saying he's the type, but it's possible. It's probably logical....
2) In that case, what is the sense of typing ?? Since in practice everyone can have any other type.... Sorry but Fi is basic function of EII.... So you react to reality mainly with this function. Internal moral system.... So being amoral sounds like a denial of EII.
Who are you confusing me for?
Because I didn't "insist and believe" in her type lol. Go back and check who wrote the posts up until now (not me).
As for 2), you just need to be aware when a behaviour is due to the situation. As simple as that (not always simple lol).
Like if you think an EII is ALWAYS an angel and never angry, just because Socionics says they are Fi lead... well, err. Wake up to reality with common sense.
1) I just deduced after your previous message. Because if you think I'm wrong and and "I blindly believe it" it means that you probably believe in her type.... Why i think so ?? Since you don't even consider and ignore my arguments. Hence this conclusion.... But yeah I don't know her personally.... I'm just talking about my insights.
2) I didn't say and didn't belive that anything that EII is an angel and that he is never angry.... Just the definition of the word "amoral".... It means completely devoid of moral norms.... So being amoral still sounds like a denial of Fi-dom.
Okay, there is no point in continuing this, since it was ironic.... And part about "amoral" of my conclusions is wrong, because my conclusions are drawn on irony which I did not understand.
Last edited by NuclearWar666; 06-16-2020 at 12:32 AM.
I am genuinely, sincerely puzzled about the intention/meaning behind this post. Are you saying that my use of the word was inaccurate? If so, it is probably a result of my ESLness, as in my native language, 'tautological' can be used to express a 'sameness' that isn't necessarily explicit in the sentence. So, calling someone autistic on a Socionics forum was, by the joke i made, a 'tautology' - as it is already accepted that one follows with the other, or that they are different words expressing the same thing. Or, did you take issue with the callous nature of the joke?
It’s not that hard to type people. I for one talk about things through a prism of interpersonal relationships. What I do is express my own likes/loves/dislikes and I’m comfortable making relationship and connections with people. I also speak to the conscience of others.
Not hard
Externally I’m reserved, shy, quiet and I tend to be into my own things
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
No, I didn't even pay attention whose type that was. I don't even remember by now and can't be bothered to go back to check.
Nice accusation (bullshit ofc).Why i think so ?? Since you don't even consider and ignore my arguments.
Yeah it was irony2) I didn't say and didn't belive that anything that EII is an angel and that he is never angry.... Just the definition of the word "amoral".... It means completely devoid of moral norms.... So being amoral still sounds like a denial of Fi-dom.
Okay, there is no point in continuing this, since it was ironic.... And part about "amoral" of my conclusions is wrong, because my conclusions are drawn on irony which I did not understand.
edit: ok that made me remember it was about Beautiful sky's type, lol
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I am curious as to what you type me
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Newly typed for the first time:
@sbbds SEI
A new addition to my personal typing list after some thought and consideration, based on one-on-one interaction:
@nanashi: IEE-Ne
I hope you're not too mad at me for this typing. I could be wrong. It's just that I saw how quickly your mind made intuitive associations, and how you seemed like you enjoyed going from point to point rather than using a steady stream which is more what I've seen LIEs do. In other words, the Ne seemed like it was more exposed rather than under the hood. Your voice also seemed fairly controlled and more variable and responsive to social context than I'd expect from an LIE, which would indicate a better understanding of Fe.
@Beautiful sky
Among factors for EIE vs EII (as she dreams it) is that for introverted type tends to write a lot of messages. May even do several of them as a reply on a single message!
Also often replies not because has a useful to say on the discussed theme there. But something external, being motivated by "just to say". What also fits to extraveted types' more surface approach and higher need in communications.
Among other traits more common for extraverts is a regular wish to attract the attention to her casual life events. Which would be more appropriate for bloggs or random thoughts thread but not in new made threads, the purpose of what is to attract more of an attention. It's important for her to get external influences and such she provokes them without good reasons, with masking this by typology remarks which are bad from theory point. As the motivation to do those posts is other than the typology, so a criticism from typology side she takes without logical contrargumentation and redundantly emotionally.
Besides that such criticism may often contain a disagreement about her type, ther expressions of which were related said by her opinions. This assigning herself of incorrect type is generally done much by emotional reasons. Emotions supress logically seen significant contradictions with the theory for years and help to keep the mistake. Hence disagreements against this opinion leads her to inappropriate emotional reactions.
+some addition
Last edited by Sol; 06-26-2020 at 06:57 PM.