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    Leslie Nielsen - ILE


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    Aleksandr Rudnev (isolux.ru) - INTJ

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    I hate to admit this, but this one does actually look and move like an LII I knew...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Leslie Nielsen - F
    Seems awfully logical to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    Seems awfully logical to me
    good. T types are good logical, but not awfully logical

    he's a comedian which is known to play imbecils. F types do it more naturally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    he's a comedian which is known to play imbecils. F types do it more naturally
    You are natural talent then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    Seems awfully logical to me
    you don't understand, because you're bad logical.
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    he's a comedian which is known to play imbecils. F types do it more naturally
    Ethical types are better actors? Yeah, maybe

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    Paul Feyerabend: ILE-Ne 7w6

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    Yevgeniy (Archetype Center) - mb INTJ

    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    Ethical types are better actors? Yeah, maybe
    where roles need expressive emotions (main roles mostly seem to be so). F types are more universal
    T types can be good at poker face ones and other cold eyes ones

    in average

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    Marie-Louise von Franz, Jungian analyst, LII Creative subtype

    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Marie-Louise von Franz, Jungian analyst, LII Creative subtype

    I have no opinion on her type yet, but that looks like a nice find! I do think that she's a normalising subtype though. I can't see accentuated Se or Fe here.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I have no opinion on her type yet, but that looks like a nice find! I do think that she's a normalising subtype though. I can't see accentuated Se or Fe here.
    Normalizing seems like a good suggestion, thanks. I've read her books and watched the series "The way of the dream". Seems LII.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    No way. Dr grande is what you should look in normalizing LII. Seriousness, supports established standards at least some way, does things out of duty, family person etc. Can you even argue for one point without loosing externally coherent view as in comparison to LII's as collective?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    No way. Dr grande is what you should look in normalizing LII. Seriousness, supports established standards at least some way, does things out of duty, family person etc. Can you even argue for one point without loosing externally coherent view as in comparison to LII's as collective?
    Sorry, are you referring to von Franz's subtype or something else? Do you have an opinion on her subtype? I was assuming Creative from her appearance and writings, but there seems to be N tendencies also.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Sorry, are you referring to von Franz's subtype or something else? Do you have an opinion on her subtype? I was assuming Creative from her appearance and writings, but there seems to be N tendencies also.
    Just by reading her text it seems to employ similar elements as Gulenko. The problem with pure creative is that it uses lots of fantasy that harmonizing has. Overall she is on the idiosyncratic side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    Just by reading her text it seems to employ similar elements as Gulenko. The problem with pure creative is that it uses lots of fantasy that harmonizing has. Overall she is on the idiosyncratic side.
    She went through analysis with Jung and then became an analyst herself. As an old woman she has gotten a more complete personality than most people. I think it could be possible that people who work on themselves a can transcend subtypes because they go outside their natural self and accept suffering in order to do what's meaningful.

    Would have been interesting to see her as a young woman
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Male ILE
    Female XLI. Probably ILI.

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    Bret McKenzie - INTJ


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    "Female XLI. Probably ILI" - ESE
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    Quote Originally Posted by karas View Post
    ESE -(suggestive Ti)
    Nah= SEI

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    Carly Rae Jepsen - ENTP


    Dipan (uncleDimaaas) - ISFP

    Cynthia Nabozny - Ti
    Elena Tonra - SEI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Carly Rae Jepsen - ENTP
    she made an album that is literally called Emotion

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV9sNmujCPk

    in her breakthrough single call me maybe, she clearly displays victim behaviour

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic

    she loves to change her appearance and style, pays a lot of attention to her appearance

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY1RsDpRmIU

    she is an EIE with a normalising subtype @toska
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Johanna Kurkela ESE Harmonizing. Shw has nice voice and is quite unusual.


    Lyrics for her LII dual considering brushing teeth and showering ( @soundofconfusion I'm looking at you)
    Peace, My Love

    Brush,
    Brush your teeth
    Just now you can't
    Do anything else
    To shower
    Go to shower
    You have to wash away the bad day
    At times a human is
    Hopeless,
    Been through too much
    Your breathless body
    Only needs saving dream


    Peace, my love, just sleep
    I watch your sleep, I guard you
    My treasure, just sleep
    No worries, I'll protect you
    We'll talk in the morning
    Peace, my love, just sleep
    Just sleep
    I guard you
    Peace, my love


    Strong,
    Let them pretend to be strong,
    Those who can
    Hide their sorrow
    Remember,
    You have to remember
    That you don't have to pretend to me


    Peace, my love, just sleep
    I watch your sleep, I guard you
    My treasure, just sleep
    No worries, I'll protect you
    We'll talk in the morning
    Peace, my love, just sleep
    Just sleep
    I guard you


    At times a human is
    Hopeless, been through too much
    Your breathless body
    Only needs saving dream


    Peace, my love, just sleep
    I watch your sleep, I guard you
    My treasure, just sleep
    No worries, I'll protect you
    We'll talk in the morning
    Peace, my love, just sleep
    Just sleep
    I guard you...
    Peace, my love
    Peace, my love, just sleep, just sleep
    I guard you
    Peace, my love


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    Quote Originally Posted by toska View Post
    IEE-Fi imo. I think her being infantile fits better and she has much more Delta values. Very free-spirited and independent. From interviews, she seems very grateful and I see no sign of an Se HA. Makes her self out to be much more of a curious person, explorer-type, wanting to see the world and understand her relationships better. She also fits my VI's for it.

    "I don't have any desire to rebel and be something totally different from what I am."

    "I'm a little bit of a hippie at heart, so I always wear things that are comfortable and flowing."

    "I definitely have little attraction to bad guys, but they have to be sweethearts underneath. After all, I like to be treated well."

    "The quick lesson that I learned is that none of the fame part is really real."

    "I like to travel by myself."

    "The way I write is generally about love. I have a great fascination about the subject."

    you make some good points. I will read more about her later.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    IJustine is talking $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. wink wink.
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    Beatrice Egli [0:58] - ESFJ

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    James Corden - ESFJ, Melissa McCarth - ISFP, Elisabeth Moss - ENTP

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