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    I was just going through and typing based on biography is one of the smartest things I’ve read. There are such a myriad of factors that can make a certain type shift courses (and outward demeanor) in not quite exemplifying a type, familial and societal shaping as well as mental health issues. Some people are so quick to just look at some present day videos without considering a shit ton of factors. Therefore, here, ultimately people are going to type themselves better than anyone unless they are willing to spend hours and hours divulging their life story. It’s fun to consider and guess, but none of us can know very well without truly digging deeper into a persons history and life. That being said, I’ve noticed some who seem to have a greater awareness of this and some sort of intuition, who have been able to catch something past the surface and I appreciate that. Some may need to consider that there may be someone very different in certain ways to their own type as well based on some of the factors above. Just because someone isn’t constantly speaking on philosophy doesn’t mean they aren’t an Ni valuer. Just because someone avoids conflict on a website doesn’t mean they aren’t an Se valuer. Just examples. So much goes into how someone expresses themselves, especially in a place like this, many people have been messed with pretty badly and even scarily over the net and furthermore life has led people of the same type into different patterns of behavior, the 16 types of billions of people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic 007 View Post
    Seriously, so many people would love to be dramatically troublesome internally conflicted drama queen EIE? OK, lol.

    Maybe they should order a skull and stare at it for few weeks.
    You just found the key to distinguishing Beta NFs. An IEI, metaphorically, stare into their own skulls. EIE prefer to stare into the skulls of others. Watch out before one of them decides your's is next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    EIE prefer to stare into the skulls of others.
    preferences does not mean exclusions
    EIE deal with same metaphorical Ni troubles as IEI. just some lesser

    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    Am I a fool for reading the teddy bear holding a flower and the "f.k.a Oprah" juxtaposed with the SLE typing as an intentional usage of irony?
    for underesteemating her emotionality in that, in general behavior on the forum and in nonverbal
    the same as you underesteemate own emotionality... and overesteemate the abbility to think reasonably

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    the same as you underesteemate own emotionality... and overesteemate the abbility to think reasonably
    The irony thickens.
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    I went to look for sols avatar to type but I forgot he doesn't exist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    preferences does not mean exclusions
    EIE deal with same metaphorical Ni troubles as IEI. just some lesser



    for underesteemating her emotionality in that, in general behavior on the forum and in nonverbal
    the same as you underesteemate own emotionality... and overesteemate the abbility to think reasonably
    Hi sol.

    Avatars are not a good indicator of type. They are strictly cultural
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Hi sol.

    Avatars are not a good indicator of type. They are strictly cultural
    No. Why are you always wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remiel View Post
    No. Why are you always wrong?
    I got a sudden bad headache from reading your post . Okay gotta go
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I got a sudden bad headache from reading your post . Okay gotta go
    What a reprieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    You just found the key to distinguishing Beta NFs. An IEI, metaphorically, stare into their own skulls. EIE prefer to stare into the skulls of others. Watch out before one of them decides your's is next.
    They dont stare cuz they arent sensors

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Gamma: Look at me! I am the greatest!
    I'm even greater when no one is looking. This is where the magic happens.

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    Damn, I can't watch this video, unavailable, but Kristen Wigg's impersonation of Bjork somewhere else I watched was great (I think Bjork is NF and not SEI btw).

    Ah here it is:



    Some more cause why not, she's pretty good at impersonating



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    @faith

    1. ) Ok, so you do understand that everyone uses every information element, correct? IF "quirk"= Ne, and I'm not saying it does (seems a bit reductive), for SLEs that would manifest under the role function--point being that showing "quirk" would not prohibit sbbds from being an SLE. As a human being, she has access to that even if it's weak and unvalued. This is not MBTI, but Socionics, where everyone has access to everything.

    2.) The aspect of Ni that concerns achetypal themes/images/metaphors is SUBJECTIVE and is wholly dependent on the individual. Seeing as how you are not her, you have no idea what the images she has chosen mean for HER. What they mean for you is irrelevant because we're discussing her Ni, not yours.

    3.) And if we're going to have some Ti internal consistency here, you being SLE (which seems inaccurate to me, and especially as a 4w5, which is exceedingly incongruent) alongside your choice of avatar makes that highly unlikely.

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    @Sol

    I wish you'd have as much motivation towards Rosetta Stone English as you do towards imposing your hypocritical, half-assed, short sighted opinions onto others. Te types do value competence after all, and you communicate like some defunct Soviet Era cyborg with a wet motherboard, which serves no one. STFU until you're willing to do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Avatars are not a good indicator of type. They are strictly cultural


    Why is this not my avatar? You stupid bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    preferences does not mean exclusions
    EIE deal with same metaphorical Ni troubles as IEI. just some lesser
    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    They dont stare cuz they arent sensors
    Read some Hamlet, you sens-whores!

    Spoke by Hamlet, Hamlet Act 5 Scene 1:
    Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow
    of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath
    borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how
    abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at
    it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know
    not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your
    gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment,
    that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one
    now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen?
    Now get you to my lady’s chamber, and tell her, let
    her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must
    come; make her laugh at that.


    “Alas Poor Yorick” Monologue in modern English
    Hamlet is in a graveyard, where some gravediggers are digging Ophelia’s grave. He has found what he takes to be the skull of a court jester, Yorick, who had befriended him as a child. Here, again, Hamlet is reflecting heavily on life and death. His friend, Horatio, is with him and he’s talking to him. Alas, poor Yorick, I actually knew him, Horatio. He was brimming with jokes and he was wonderfully creative. He carried me on his back a thousand times, and now, when I think about it it’s horrible, it makes me angry. Here were the lips that I kissed I don’t know how many times. Where are your barbed jokes now? Your high-jinx? Your songs? Your moments of jesting that used to set all those at the table roaring with laughter? Not one left to mock that grin you have. Sad? Now go to my lady’s room and tell her to plaster herself with makeup because she has to come to this function. Make her laugh at that.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Read some Hamlet, you sens-whores!
    Read Jung until the enlightment!


    Model H by Shakespeare is a heresy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Read Jung until the enlightment!


    Model H by Shakespeare is a heresy!
    I am not surprised the Hamlet joke went whoosh.

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    Let's type our buttholes. Maybe that will shed light on our types.
    previously Megadoodoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    @Alonzo the teddy bear with a clover doesn't add up to an Ni meaning or goal. Its only understandable in an Ne sense:

    teddy bear -predator
    clover -luck

    ?? doesn't add up to an Ni vision, doesn't give off a single abstract meaning which she internalizes.

    Edit:

    Sol's picture: clear Ni intention, a teddy bear holding a bomb, something cute but dangerous
    Actually the clover represents the Fourfold universe / god, and the teddy bear with two ears on top of its head represents bilateral brain configuration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Read some Hamlet, you sens-whores!







    Oh Gods. I am currently doing Hamlet at uni and it will take up all the time until the Christmas break to go through it. Don't remind me!
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    And this thread is a mega doodoo
    “I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoodoo View Post
    Let's type our buttholes. Maybe that will shed light on our types.

    Buttholes are Si-seeking, they need caregivers to come and wipe for them. Spewing shit everywhere is also an Ne-lead characteristic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Buttholes are Si-seeking, they need caregivers to come and wipe for them. Spewing shit everywhere is also an Ne-lead characteristic.
    Muddy your butthole

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Muddy your butthole
    Muddy boxer-shorts

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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    @sbbds

    sbbds: my feelings are hurt so I must be rude to hide my small and hurt ego : ( Can’t handle it when someone tells me I’m wrong : ( I MUST be an SLE so I’ll act all tough and UNEMOTIONAL like a REAL THINKER
    @Beautiful sky calls me polite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    @sbbds I call you feeler
    Okay. I’m flattered btw that you want my attention / are giving me attention, even though you’re going about it autistically.

    This is fairly typical for SLE btw:
    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    @sbbds

    sbbds: my feelings are hurt so I must be rude to hide my small and hurt ego : ( Can’t handle it when someone tells me I’m wrong : ( I MUST be an SLE so I’ll act all tough and UNEMOTIONAL like a REAL THINKER
    Btw, how are you sure if I am acting or not? What % is real, if any?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    @sbbds

    sbbds: my feelings are hurt so I must be rude to hide my small and hurt ego : ( Can’t handle it when someone tells me I’m wrong : ( I MUST be an SLE so I’ll act all tough and UNEMOTIONAL like a REAL THINKER
    Im faith i think SLE and 4w5 are the same personality cuz i have litterally 0 cells present in my body that are capable of critical thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    hi I’m number nine large and I have no other place other than the internet because no one in real life would accept me : (
    uhm no. But nice of u to project ur insecurities onto me. I can use them against you now

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    I haven't been around long, these are the people I've seen videos of, interacted with in shout, or whose type comes through clear in their posts

    Alonzo - clear LIE
    Aylen - another clear LIE
    Baboooshka
    - A bit young for me to be confident in typing him. My impression is Ne/Si feeler.
    Beautiful sky - EII conflict
    bouncingoffclouds - Irrational. Ne/Si feeler. IEE > SEI
    coeruleum - DA reasoning. Haven't looked very close but the name stuck out from a thread valuing literal aristocracy so... probably EIE.
    FreelancePoliceman - LII
    End - DA reasoning. Irrational. Fi. ILI
    Heretic 007- ILE judging by CD reasoning and off the wall alpha Ne in shout
    Number 9 large - SEE judging by video & comments
    sbbds - Beta for sure. Aggro but without ever slipping into crazy-pants EIE DA reasoning. Not IxI victim posturing. Could be LSI-Se, but I think she's irrational. SLE fits.
    Sol - Rational sensor. Most likely LSE. If not LSE then LSI.



    j/k Aylen - IEI

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    LOL I love how everyone can just identify me as an irrational (actually, not everyone though... )
    @flames wants you to type him

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    LOL I love how everyone can just identify me as an irrational (actually, not everyone though... )
    @flames wants you to type him
    I second this notion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    0/10 bad performance, don’t get it because I’m an autist and can’t see through it
    The first step is self-awareness lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by inaLim View Post
    I haven't been around long, these are the people I've seen videos of, interacted with in shout, or whose type comes through clear in their posts

    Alonzo - clear LIE
    Aylen - another clear LIE
    Baboooshka
    - A bit young for me to be confident in typing him. My impression is Ne/Si feeler.
    Beautiful sky - EII conflict
    bouncingoffclouds - Irrational. Ne/Si feeler. IEE > SEI
    coeruleum - DA reasoning. Haven't looked very close but the name stuck out from a thread valuing literal aristocracy so... probably EIE.
    FreelancePoliceman - LII
    End - DA reasoning. Irrational. Fi. ILI
    Heretic 007- ILE judging by CD reasoning and off the wall alpha Ne in shout
    Number 9 large - SEE judging by video & comments
    sbbds - Beta for sure. Aggro but without ever slipping into crazy-pants EIE DA reasoning. Not IxI victim posturing. Could be LSI-Se, but I think she's irrational. SLE fits.
    Sol - Rational sensor. Most likely LSE. If not LSE then LSI.



    j/k Aylen - IEI
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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    @sbbds

    Can’t you tell that I’m acting,,,,, how much of it’s true??,,,, ?? What % of it is real,,??
    100% of your commas are acting as ellipses periods

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    @faith

    1.) This type of perception is short sighted and limited. You do understand that sbbds (like all of us) also exist in a reality not confined to this forum, correct? You only have access to bits and pieces of her personality, pieces she chooses to show you. What if she uses this space to "blow off steam" and showcase/indulge a side of her that she doesn't explore as much in "the real word?"

    As someone who has befriended and worked besides SLEs perhaps more than any other type, I know for a FACT that they are capable of manifesting substantial "quirk." IME, both Ne and Se are sufficiently capable of "quirk," which can broadly be defined as off beat, unconventional and unexpected, though Se is obviously more actionably direct, visceral, tactile and sensorially impactful.

    It's funny you mention the circus because Se leads are some of the best showman around, capable of manipulating and bending space and the immediate, concrete environment around them. They can make spectacular physical comedians, for example. You know how many times I've seen an Se lead spontaneously and precisely mimic/mock another person's behavior, land a back flip or break out into dance? To me, that also qualifies as "quirk."

    Ne quirk is ideationally sudden and "random" and usually manifests more abstractly, removed from the physical/corporeal which can impart them with a low D Se off-beat, heady "awkwardness." Sbbds seems more solid; she is not ideationally "off the wall"/off kilter in the way that Heretic 007 is, for example--his Ne associations pierce multiple veils of reality in the "how the FUCK did you get from there to there?" sense. Se "associations" tend to stay oncrete and tangible from context to context > see Sbbds and Muddy's scatelogical play on words in the posts above.

    2.) Honestly, I just don't think you know what you are talking about and so I can't put much faith in your ability to properly identify and label whatever function you believe you are seeing. Furthermore, detecting (read: identifying and discerning) and interpreting (read: decoding and understanding) are two different things. Of course it's possible to detect Ni, but because it's subjective, only the individual can truly interpret and speak to the meaning and significance that certain themes/metaphors/images represent for them. Only sbbds can do that; we can use our Ni to conjure what her images mean for us, but not for her.

    3.) By bringing up Ti internal consistency, I was urging YOU (and Sol, indirectly) to be logically consistent by holding yourself to the same standards you were holding sbbds to. Your avatar absolutely does not say "SLE" and so if we're going to assign someone a sociotype according to their avatar, you would not be a SLE--unless, of course, your logic is more convoluted than previously thought and you have some way to rationalize why you're allowed to have feeler-tastic images in your avatar and still be a logical type while others can not.

    And, again, it's RICH that you want to discuss the possibility of one not being typical for their type (when it applies to you) but not allow the same for sbbds, who may not obviously (to you) present as a typical SLE. Gotta say, for an alleged high D Ti user, your argumentation seems rather inconsistent with itself.

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    There were no questions in the video that prompted for a question of humanity to be brought up. I would 100% consider myself a humanitarian.
    Both Fe and Fi and other person may react unceremoniously in a public situation when emotions arise. Fi evaluates morals and ethics for instance my INTP mom has started to watch an Indian show where they marry off a -2 year old girl to an older man. When I first walked into the room I asked her what this show was about. She told me and then my blood began to boil over. I started saying all manner of my evaluation for the situation along the lines of “that is disgusting. That wonderful young CHILD subjected to marriage and to be a woman when she is only a CHILD is WRONG. This culture is terrible, archaic, brutal and all of these people are responsible to make a change. THEY should make another system where this wonderful child doesn’t have to be taken for this situation. It is their fault that such things are happening. This is RAPE!” My mother likes to watch for Se which is evaluating how strong this little girl is but not me. I’m evaluating the morals, the decency and because of my strong reactions through my Fi ethics she turns off the show. I say “why do you watch such horrible things and injustices in these situations?”
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Most of the time my mind is quietly introspecting and evaluating all sorts of things situations and scenarios that are happening around me from the point of view of Fi. Like I see a child with a father and I say “that’s the way parents should be “ -example
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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