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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Ya LSE need to see something in real time.
    nonverbal is recommended or obligate part to be sure in the whole type, generally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    nonverbal is recommended or obligate part to be sure in the whole type, generally
    Your english has improved. You sound like a nerdy Brit.

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    @Sol
    We agree on the part that the only thing that CAN be measured is the external part of Jung types, right? By IR, questions, VI etc. We can only see the result of the cognition, not the source of it. That can only (possibly) be seen by the typed.

    >Having good typing skills mb checked good correlation of VI with a behavior and your IR effects with the types gotten by VI before.
    Yes, but it is only a correlation. There is always a chance of some sort of mismatch, maybe caused by non-Socionics factors.

    >Before you'll positively check own type by IR it's early for you to be assured in own typing skills. Study to type people near you IRL and only then type famouses as it's significantly harder.
    I am pretty positive about SLI atm, also thanks to you. I did primarily reach this conclusion through observation of own mental perception, though, and secondarily through IR with people around me. Girl in video interested me more than ''your'' IEE types.

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    Note: You got SLI by VI and then got not bad fiting of your IR test results to SLI. That IR test is created mostly by VI too. And when you did the test you used VI. So "bad" VI was concretely for you.

    I never said VI was ''bad''. I'm saying that it studies phenotypical results, just like questionnaire, tests etc. The ''genotypical'' is only available to the one percieving.



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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Your english has improved. You sound like a nerdy Brit.
    The style is from base T type. My English level was and stays still to allow read technical docs which use simpler language.
    For example, I doubt that now can to read normal books not slowly. I'd meet a lot of new words and more complex language.

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    Te-LSE husband, Fi-EII wife?


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    > Te-LSE husband

    not LSE

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    Pauline Kael: LSE

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    Bobbie Long - ENFP


    Jacynthe Villemaire - INFJ
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    my best guess would be SLI

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    Anna Yefremova - ESTJ

    The Sim Supply - F

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    IEE

    i post old video cos she looks kind of emotionless now with all that surgery. she probably had already done her eyebrow lift there though

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    Alina Orlova - INFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Stop with the stereotypes, please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Stop with the stereotypes, please
    You are right. Stereotypes are limiting and unfair.

    Here is another EII: https://www.refuse2obey.com/shop/l7q...h2eu7psnh7btnj

    Note how her eyes are closely watching for moral violations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post

    my best guess would be SLI
    SLI-Si

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Stop with the stereotypes, please
    stereotypes are what is common. to more of stereotypes is fited - the more chance it's correct
    as for that picture - just not much data to type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    You are right. Stereotypes are limiting and unfair.

    Here is another EII: https://www.refuse2obey.com/shop/l7q...h2eu7psnh7btnj

    Note how her eyes are closely watching for moral violations.
    Again, stop with the stereotypes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Again, stop with the stereotypes
    This would mean to to stop with reasonable thinking. As stereotypes are generalizations based on common traits, while this means the usage of abstractions.
    I suspect he'll not. Despite how much you'll ask about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    This would mean to to stop with reasonable thinking. As stereotypes are generalizations based on common traits, while this means the usage of abstractions.
    I suspect he'll not. Despite how much you'll ask about this.
    And again... stop with the stereotypes. Not all EIIs are females! I'm ordering both of you, please stop with this BS!

    STOOOOPPPP!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    This would mean to to stop with reasonable thinking. As stereotypes are generalizations based on common traits, while this means the usage of abstractions.
    I suspect he'll not. Despite how much you'll ask about this.
    Sadly, @Sol, you are correct. Stereotypes and prejudices are the way I organize my world. I hear a mosquito buzz and I just assume it's after my blood. I hold a ball out and let it go and I assume it will fall to earth.

    In my defense, I'd like to believe that I am open to my stereotypes being wrong on occasion. Sometimes, the mosquitoes are male, and sometimes astronauts let go of something and it doesn't hit the ground. Still,.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    And again... stop with the stereotypes. Not all EIIs are females! I'm ordering both of you, please stop with this BS!

    STOOOOPPPP!!!
    I never said that all EII's are female. In fact, I work with a male EII. He is a very nice guy and a good engineer. He can be quite funny.

    In fact, I worked with a male EII engineer about five years ago, too. He was an electrical engineer and he left to go build supercomputers for Cray Computers. Not your stereotypical EII at all, if there is one.

    They both are very moral people, though. Maybe that's the stereotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I never said that all EII's are female. In fact, I work with a male EII. He is a very nice guy and a good engineer. He can be quite funny.

    In fact, I worked with a male EII engineer about five years ago, too. He was an electrical engineer and he left to go build supercomputers for Cray Computers. Not your stereotypical EII at all, if there is one.

    They both are very moral people, though. Maybe that's the stereotype.
    Now we're talking

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    @Marep
    The very notion of language is that it is based on stereotypes/conceptuality/abstraction - verbally, it is impossible to avoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Not all EIIs are females!
    heretic

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    @Marep
    The very notion of language is that it is based on stereotypes/conceptuality/abstraction - verbally, it is impossible to avoid.
    I was joking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    I was joking
    My mistake. Poe's law and whatnot.

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    Bailey Parnell - mb SLI

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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post
    IEE

    i post old video cos she looks kind of emotionless now with all that surgery. she probably had already done her eyebrow lift there though
    EIE.
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    Marina Novikova - mb EII
    Fi, other possible: IEE, ESI


    EII
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    Bryan Cranston - SLI?

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    Alan Milne - EII


    Kira Shevchuk - mb EII

    Bryan Cranston - not SLI, other T
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    Emma Kirkby - IEE?

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    Hey guys, since january this year I have been working on a gallery of types for my german socionics website. I wanted to ask the delta members of this thread if they could look through the examples in the gallery and inform me about any typing they would heavily disagree with. any help is appreciated.

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...iee-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...sli-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...lse-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...eii-beispiele/

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    Hey guys, since january this year I have been working on a gallery of types for my german socionics website. I wanted to ask the delta members of this thread if they could look through the examples in the gallery and inform me about any typing they would heavily disagree with. any help is appreciated.

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...iee-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...sli-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...lse-beispiele/

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...eii-beispiele/
    When you are ready post here and I will add your gallery.

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    Supposedly Huxley doesn't refer to Aldous Huxley but Thomas Henry Huxley.


    I also suggest typing ppl not based in physical features (such as face or nose shape, etc), but to look for different observable qualities, such as intonation, posture, facial expression also put attention to what ppl say to see if they actually manifest elements of supposed type or not. I said this because most of the examples for SLI seem to resemble facial structure and shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragdoll Cat View Post
    most of those IEE don't seem IEE to me. Also supposedly Huxley doesn't refer to Aldous Huxley but Thomas Henry Huxley.


    I also suggest typing ppl not based in physical features (such as face or nose shape, etc), but to look for different observable qualities, such as intonation, posture, facial expression also put attention to what ppl say to see if they actually manifest elements of supposed type or not.
    This is still a common mistake in socionics?

    I have read a lot of Aldous' work. He was not IEE yet he gets added to some lists by default due to people thinking he is the Huxley of socionics. Not Ni ignoring in the least. Ni lead. Probably ILI-Ni 5w4. I would say he was more of an introverted loner.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley

    Aldous Leonard Huxley was an English writer and one of the most prominent members of the famous Huxley family. He spent the latter part of his life in the United States, living in Los Angeles from 1937 until his death in 1963. Best known for his novels and wide-ranging output of essays, he also published short stories, poetry, travel writing, and film stories and scripts. Through his novels and essays Huxley functioned as an examiner and sometimes critic of social mores, norms and ideals. Huxley was a humanist but was also interested towards the end of his life in spiritual subjects such as parapsychology and philosophical mysticism. By the end of his life, Huxley was widely acknowledged as one of the pre-eminent intellectuals of his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    This is still a common mistake in socionics?

    I have read a lot of Aldous' work. He was not IEE yet he gets added to some lists by default due to people thinking he is the Huxley of socionics. Not Ni ignoring in the least. Ni lead. Probably ILI-Ni 5w4. I would say he was more of an introverted loner.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
    yes, I thought on Ni for him too.

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    interesting. huxley was the one I was sceptical about, that's why I'm posting my lists here. thanks for the comment. I will look into him again. I don't use V.I. at all in my typings, but obviously I noticed that some people look very similar. the SLI examples are mostly german politicians. I've spend quite a lot of time watching interviews with them. I'm very sure of their type. germany is a country that is run by delta ST types. what are the IEE typings that you disagree with? @Ragdoll Cat
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    @soundofconfusion

    "EII"
    Björk Guðmundsdóttir - SEI
    Ingmar Bergman - EIE
    Werner Herzog - I*TP
    Carl Rogers - mb
    Emily Dickinson - doubtful
    Hayao Miyazaki - mb LSI
    Isao Takahata - I*FP
    Haruki Murakami - P
    Virginia Woolf - mb
    Leonard Cohen - no
    Jeff Buckley - IEI
    Nick Drake - no. more T
    Stephin Merritt - no
    Win Butler - no

    nice try

    make bloggers list. you may type them by impressions from nonverbal
    historical people without videos are doubtful to type at all

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    Thomas Henry Huxley - mb EIE
    Aldous Huxley - mb ENT*

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