Along the lines of @xerxe ‘s thread, I’m curious what high S feels like to S-egos. Do you feel like you’re more aware of surroundings than intuitive types? Do you appreciate the finer things in life? Do you disdain intuitives? Are you Rambo?
What does S-ego-ness feel like?
Along the lines of @xerxe ‘s thread, I’m curious what high S feels like to S-egos. Do you feel like you’re more aware of surroundings than intuitive types? Do you appreciate the finer things in life? Do you disdain intuitives? Are you Rambo?
haha. Yeah, I kinda feel aware of my surroundings. Especially when playing sports I feel like I can get away with a few moves. And I'm good at sports. Sometimes I notice things others do not, sometimes even watching people to see if they notice something, but they don't, and it weirds me out. I have fast reflexes. Sometimes I do not pay attention to my surroundings, but I can afford to do that because I react quickly. Then also saying this as an artist, my surroundings can also change in appearance, kind of like hallucinating, or just in my imagination it changes to appear the way I want it to, and everything is ideal or the opposite like a bomb just hit the area. Or when I'm angry, everything around me melts away. I notice when things are moved from a position it normally is. When I first enter a room, I notice a whole bunch of shit at once with all my senses and it can be overwhelming. I'm good at art and cooking, and using my hands, very dexterous, and practical, and efficient. I like the finer things in life, but I can do without them. And I really appreciate intuitives.
Se notice the best physical details, material objects. They also want to control directly those objects and territory, according to Se.
Even in romance and sex they act in this style - the most aggressive and stubborn, passionate in geting someone, jealous to having him as "own".
Own body is an object for control kind of too. They have not valued Si, so may load own bodies higher.
Meanwhile they have valued Ni. They easier may trust in "good outcome". Trust + physical self-control -> good will to go to some aim, they go directly.
Weak nonvalued Ne makes them a little paranoid and suspicious to people. They feel the most pain if become disappointed by someone. Meanwhile they tend to overesteemate and underesteemate people and themselves, as to understand nuances is not what they like.
Its less about what they do do and more about what they don’t do. They don’t intellectualize or meta aware inside their heads. As in thought bubbles and thought clouds. Yes they still think, just not as voraciously as non-S types. Life inside the consciousness stream, better yet, life outside of the consciousness stream.
Yes im rambo
Se you're well aware of territory, boundaries & size. ^^^^ we are rambo
Are you high?Originally Posted by waddup
No not at all. What I said must have been super confusing and went over your head. Feeling some SLI vibes from you.
Easily some of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on this site. Very impressive.
Okay so you are also a sensor type then.
Same post could have been written by a SLI.
You're kinda annoying.
Why?
Because its the same thing a SLI would write?
How is this annoying., think before you speak.
edit: because they are also S types...duh. not that you are SLI. Assumptions sure are fun, eh.
Last edited by waddup; 07-20-2019 at 02:29 AM.
The hurdur im snarter cuz N belongs to the mbti community
Intuition is a type of analytical mindframe. Sensing is not. Analytics is a higher, meaning upper level brain process, that plays on top of other background running systems in consciousness.
Sensing is easier to do for the brain. Hence my original comment.
Analytical mindframe is Ti. Why dont you study the theory before making urself look like a retarded bigot
Maybe you are high.
Fi is also analytical. So is Ne as its processing permutations. Ni is reflective in a way similar to an analysis. So how about you stop being rude and listen to the socionics veterans. Im not the one learning something new here. Check out the wiki for more vocabulary insight.
Is this for real? I said a SLI would say the same thingg as you because you are both Si. Why are you acting like such a cunt?
While I have been the designated driver I tend to prefer to listen what the sensing drunks say about my surroundings. Makes me feel safer than just trusting my own senses.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
Fi is not analytical. please
except it kinda is. assessing field dynamics.Fi is not analytical. please
- Fi
: an analytical state of mind, analysis of personal feeling and stances, harmony or disharmony of personal values and sentiments, endearment, closeness, moral satisfaction, emotional sensitivity, deep personal conviction that may produce moral firmness and resolve
wth of a letter was that
it feels like tired feet, sleepiness, heat headache and more.
I don't think Si types are more aware than Ne leads about external world. But I'm more aware of my physical state and body processes and functions. I'm more up to take care of surroundings than intuitives and probably its easier and I'm better at it (like they can be quite impractical or clumsy).Do you feel like you’re more aware of surroundings than intuitive types?
not sure what do you mean.Do you appreciate the finer things in life?
Sometimes. Especially in daily life (at home or work) when they are egoistical, self centered, impractical, wasteful, lazy and inconsiderate. And even more if they have pretty shitty attitude. Like when they think I should treat them as if they were 14 (and they are +40) so I should act like their mom and/or maid, or when they are in victim mentality or depressive state sinking on self pity or self indulgence (for years).Do you disdain intuitives?
Are you Rambo?
Well - theoretically, neither intuition nor sensing is ''analytical'' in nature, as the whole idea of ''perception'' in Socionics refers to something that is an immediate process, something that takes precedence over the ''analysis'', which in Socionics refers to logics and ethics. The conscious, analytical, decisive mind is thus geared towards logical and ethical processes, not intuitive or sensory.
I'm not sure what you mean by ''easier to do for the brain''? Theoretically, each TIM finds difficulties and challenges in separate fields of processing - to dive into imagination or to perceive externality or stimuli with nuance is easy for some and hard for others. (theoretically, i'm not even positive in the so called division between sensory and imaginary processes)
What do you type as, btw?
Just like someone could exert pressure to their surroundings or tune into their surroundings (note: this is irrational) as in sensing and intuition also does similar things like noting the "irrational currency of the information" or just extrapolating/interpolating it based on quite random databases.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
Joinif you dare https://matrix.to/#/#The16Types:matrix.org
Yes: the perception notes the need for stability and algorithm in the input/output of information, as the perception extrapolates based on an idea of unity - there is a common ground for all information in nature, not just in how i process it through ''judging'' elements. P types are absolutists in this regard, even with the reflection on the need for division and stability in information.
I wouldnt choose the word analysis. You know analysis inherently uses logic right?
The cortex grows on top of the limbic and is therefor physically above the more primitive brain. Comfortable and uncomfortable, even a simple cell knows what is right for itself, yet cannot cognatize such awareness. It just knows.
Alter your consciousness enough and you will notice which IE is first noticable for the organism. It goes >Si>Se>Fe —- a creature must detect (Si) and then it must move (Se). Movement becomes a function of relational ethics (Fe with other creatures and environmental factors).
then any mix of Te, Fi, Ni, Ne, later.
Function placement becomes necessary then for higher order process. The brain does sensing first for any creature. The rest plays over top of it. This is why intuitive thinkers, all intuitives, lie on the spectrum seemingly most divorced from their bodies. Which is okay as it serves some purpose and why it continues throughout time (advantages).
Continuing its for the same reason their sensing duals of any flavour are commonly conceived as being more natural, more Earthy, in some fashion, intuitively so because they are not twice removed from that central core physical connectedness to their root limbic, sensate processing and not arguably hypnotized, in an genetically determined, yet uncontrollable way by higher order meta awareness that is required of the brainier, loftier informational elements.
An animal doesn’t Te, it instincts its next moves. This means Te requires higher order thought process in a large Cortex.
The scaffolding of how it all plays out inside each individual is up for discussion.
Last edited by waddup; 07-21-2019 at 03:33 AM.
Right, gotcha.
Smoking and other bad habits are simply an attempt to feel more present in the moment, which is a function of sensing. Even though it is in a ultimately destructive way. This is why you get sensors who smoke. The human animal has found all kinds of ways of bypassing its normal operating systems and using outside influences to alter its inner chemistry. People are just really smart and also really instinctual beings with access to technology and chemistry from the environment. As unhealthy as smoking is it has a pay off and that pay off was built into your biology, in fact that biology is you. It is a mutli edged dagger as with its benefits it brings harm, yet the balance of which shows meta-analysis maturity, other IEs, and is therefore a discordant attempt to feel something which means its a form of mental dis-order: that which causes distress. Not good, not bad, just is.
It could be argued everything that what we did as a species got us to this point, including smoking tobacco.
How many sailors relied on a midnight smoke to make it through their watch? ——> this is a meta thought.
The more primitive, sensing awareness of my mind was feeling the floor beneath my feet and my bum in my chair and the sound of the air conditioner, all playing first and foremost while I write this post. The same goes for each person reading it. Sensing in both varieties is always base line for every human. What I am saying is absolutely, fundamentally and undeniably correct.
This isnt an attempt to rate some kind of scale in order of importance. In the conception of human reality in the context of socionics, the order of importance does not exist.
However, the order of process does. Sensing is first, which is why spiritual traditions support its exploration because it helps break down normal stream of consciousness, monkey mind. By breaking down monkey mind is a way to experience possible ego death, but that is besides the point.
Sensing is foundational. Take that as you will.
It’s probably exactly what you think it is.
Not always, but generally. Yes.Do you feel like you’re more aware of surroundings than intuitive types?
Do you as an intuitive type not appreciate material things?Do you appreciate the finer things in life?
I think all types appreciate both material and immaterial things. However, I tend to prioritize that a certain standard for material comfort or resources is reached first.
No. Like some other sensors or ‘S egos’ (is that our AA-approved term now?), I used to identify as one.Do you disdain intuitives?
Sometimes I do feel like that, as an Se leading type. Other times, I feel ironically gentle and disconnected. Jung implied the DS function has the second strongest influence on a person’s psyche.Are you Rambo?
This question is very abstract. S ego can mean Si or Se, and base or creative
Being S base feels alot different than just S creative, and Si/Se feels alot different also. Better to narrow it down
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Incomprehensibly mysterious?! Totally alien?! As wonderful and terrifying as the face of God?!
It’s simple logic: if sensors are better-attuned to physical reality, than intuitives, as their opposites, must be ascetic and entirely unconcerned with physical reality. QED.Do you as an intuitive type not appreciate material things?
Reached before what?I think all types appreciate both material and immaterial things. However, I tend to prioritize that a certain standard for material comfort or resources is reached first.
Sorry; as an intuitive I’m physiologically incapable of coming up with simple and descriptive terms like “sensor.” That’s why intuitives need sensors, and the harmony of the Socion is made manifest. Sen-sors. What a beautifully succinct word!No. Like some other sensors or ‘S egos’ (is that our AA-approved term now?), I used to identify as one.
Se seems at odds with gentleness to you? I ask because I tend to feel that Se’s equation with aggression or whatever is a mischaracterization, so I’m curious if an Se ego feels otherwise.Sometimes I do feel like that, as an Se leading type. Other times, I feel ironically gentle and disconnected. Jung implied the DS function has the second strongest influence on a person’s psyche.
Last edited by FreelancePoliceman; 07-21-2019 at 06:12 PM.
@FreelancePoliceman Reached before immaterial satisfaction
I don’t think it’s a mischaracterization but maybe tends to focus on exaggerated manifestations of aggressive Se. Jung implies there is balance in the psyche. So there is definitely more conscious focus on force and power stuff but there’s also the opposite still present there too. Only the presence of black and white simultaneously makes them each able to exist blah blah.
Frankly I feel like my sociotype is the only one that has its Maslow’s pyramid the right side up.
I've been thinking I should up the dose on my fatigue meds and an IEI pointed out that I must have energy cuz in 3 days I accomplished what it would take him 2 weeks to do. But it's not because it actually needed to be done right away or that Im a better person. Its just that getting out and doing shit is where I find my life juice so to speak. Doing his reading and writing and intellectual pursuits wouldn't fill me up the same way even though there's value in it.
I don't notice being especially aware of my surroundings except with my IEE friend who tasks me with locating where she parked her car lol. And I'm not especially into the finer things in life, I think, though some ppl seem ok with squalor, so maybe a tad comparatively?
I also typed intuitive at first. Y'all are the shit .
In any case - there is an impenetrable wall to the world that only Se base types can breach. I always feel 'closed off', like i'm stuck behind some cosmic membrane that refuses to let me see things for what they really are... The real world i only stick my toes in to gain materials for my own creations. I just feel really subjective.
Any type can breach the wall. You need to just do it.In any case - there is an impenetrable wall to the world that only Se base types can breach. I always feel 'closed off', like i'm stuck behind some cosmic membrane that refuses to let me see things for what they really are... The real world i only stick my toes in to gain materials for my own creations. I just feel really subjective.
Aside from that, our own consciousness is the only thing we will ever actually experience. Everybody is subjective even while trying to be objective.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote