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    Hello. I have decided to split hairs.What subtype of EII would you say I am? I have thought NE, but occasionally, when coming across @Froody Blue Gem's posts, i wonder whether i'm wrong. I could of course be smack in the middle of either Fi or Ne. Thank you.

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    If EII is your correct typing, and I’m not sure it is, I’d guess Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    If EII is your correct typing, and I’m not sure it is, I’d guess Fi.
    well, i had a type me thread where I invited people to contribute. However, I thank you for your suggestion and its speedy delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    well, i had a type me thread where I invited people to contribute. However, I thank you for your suggestion and its speedy delivery.
    I thought you said in that thread that you had decided firmly on a typing, so I didn’t think trying to change your mind would be fruitful. I might be misremembering though. If you like, I can post there to try to convince you.

    Of course I might be wrong though anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    I thought you said in that thread that you had decided firmly on a typing, so I didn’t think trying to change your mind would be fruitful. I might be misremembering though. If you like, I can post there to try to convince you.

    Of course I might be wrong though anyway.
    Hello FP, and thanks again; i have had a couple of different threads. Maybe i said somewhat differing things in each, i'm sorry that i don't recall all the details. I don't mean to have you hold back on your opinion, please write away here if you will. I'm just worried that it is all turning to be all about me in all these different threads, lol.

    Here's a very brief blurb on me, in case it is helpful. I tried to be very honest in writing it:
    My cultural background is a bit mixed, by which i mean it is not monolithic - maybe this throws people off and makes it hard to reconcile with a type stereotype? I have frequently sought the underdog or the underground or the excellent in my youth (less so now, i prefer my own company). I greatly enjoyed studying economics for a period of time, and did exceptionally well in it, but that was not a career/professional final choice as i deflected to disciplines closer to humanities and the arts. I have sought long term relationship and have never had an interest in the fleeting, relationship-wise. My closest friends growing up were LXE, IEE, SLI, and later ESI & EIE. At present LIE and LII (imo). I have enjoyed playing tennis, and swimming, though have not usually been too keen on group sports. I have not excelled at any sports, opting instead for some degree of sportsmanship as a principle. I paid very close attention to my mother's (RIP) illness when i was close to her (later i moved). I often advise people i care about on their lifestyle as i am worried about their health, but that doesn't mean im an expert at it.

    I fear i started to ramble, so i'll cut this out for now.

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    Subtype in terms of ego block is not clearly defined and varies in different sources. Just read the descriptions and decide yourself .
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    I’d say maybe Fi or no subtype. What do you get on that socoitypes extended test, out of curiousity?
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    Are you sure in EII? Also, i don't think @Froody Blue Gem is EII, tbh. Doesn't seem like program Fi type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Are you sure in EII? Also, i don't think @Froody Blue Gem is EII, tbh. Doesn't seem like program Fi type.
    Hi, EII is the best fitting type, and intertype relations fit too. There might be other non-socionics factors that 'color me' as a person, so to speak. What did you have in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    Hi, EII is the best fitting type, and intertype relations fit too. There might be other non-socionics factors that 'color me' as a person, so to speak. What did you have in mind?
    Have you considered ESI? You don't remind me of Ne ego types, theoretically or ''anecdotally''. I do think that Fi lead fits well, though. Some have suggested other IXFX types, but i don't see much Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Have you considered ESI? You don't remind me of Ne ego types, theoretically or ''anecdotally''. I do think that Fi lead fits well, though. Some have suggested other IXFX types, but i don't see much Fe.
    I did consider ESI, but it doesn't fit. I have benefit relation with ILI i know (feels like a one-way communication), rather than activity.

    Further, I don't have quasi-relation with SEIs imo, I feel a bit parentified around them, but don't feel quasi features. I think Ne is a bit hard to come across online, but you can for instance notice that although i am set on a type i am open (NE) to listening to people's opinions. My approach IRL is quite soft as well, not SE-pushy. For example, I work with a combo of irrational extroverts and Se-ego people and feel quite uncomfortable in how expansive they are towards my space/area of of work/interests.

    Lastly, the most criticisms i get at work are Fe related, whereby i am being often advised on how to best improve my 'image'/presentation (my Ti/Fe boss thinks this is key to success) and i pay lip service to that type of thing, Fe is just completely redundant to me. Imo

    ETA: Another thing about ESI is this idea of them being capable of holding grudges and/or punishing others. I don't really do that, i feel like i have no energy for that. It has only been in severe examples that i have decided to move on away from certain people, but never in a revengeful way, more like 'here i split ways with you' and that's when i focus on my own wellbeing/look into moving forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    Lastly, the most criticisms i get at work are Fe related, whereby i am being often advised on how to best improve my 'image'/presentation (my Ti/Fe boss thinks this is key to success) and i pay lip service to that type of thing, Fe is just completely redundant to me. Imo
    I think this is quite largely Se thing. I have seen it taken to this sort of extreme: No matter what the content is the most important thing is your confident performance.
    I think it completely defeats the idea itself.
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    I always thought that EII- Fi was a great fit for you, dearest Delilah.
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    Based on what you said in this thread maybe Normalizing subtype. I wouldnt expect an D-EII to get critisism on how to improve image/perfermance for example. They can be quite bold in that area. You also seem patient, willing to consider details.
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    IMO, I think you are Fi-EII @Delilah. That is why you and others have considered ESI before, but I don't think is your creative and is your PoLR, but rather the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    Hi, what do you think would be an Fe 'image' critique then? The things i am criticized about are not exactly performance related (unless this is a semantics problem, i personally wouldn't call this a 'performance' criticism.) For instance, i have been told that i jokingly make fun of myself and that i shouldn't as it conveys the wrong idea about me to people i have to do business with. That type of thing is what i meant. I had thought it was a Fe sort of critique. Perhaps i was wrong?
    It is kind of funny how strongly performing people can sometimes be quite unassuming about the simple quality of their own personal output. Anyway, for many people having great presence means great image like LIE's usually look sold by it.

    Conversing with the crowd seems more natural to me. It is probably quite beta to perform own agenda and have didactic influence instead of of being questioning (which is alpha way whereas deltas are quite tuned in practical personal dimension of the content).
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    Subtype shows imbalance in information processing. During normal, benign interactions, types should spend equal amounts of time taking in input and producing output. When EIIs find themselves rationalizing much more than listening meaning they ignore or miss larger portions of what others are saying, then they're likely Fi-subtypes (note that all Ijs and Eps will miss input segments to widely varying degrees). I'm very Ti-subtype so even when I deliberately try to engage input, I can't seem to do it for very long except when I'm under threat - it's like trying to break a bad habit.

    Only when one spends less than a third of one's time (rather than half) on either input or output, then they can lay claim to a subtype; otherwise, one is splitting hairs. Regardless, subtype doesn't alter the way that information is ultimately processed so perceptions and decision processes between the subtypes don't vary by much, if at all. If one is going to subdivide type then there should be three divisions - one being the relatively balanced centre.

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