Description of INFj

[Rebelondeck]

@Lord Pixel
"My Ne is way too all over the place to be super organized" - Ne by itself cannot create disorganization; uncontrolled input causes flitting from one thing to the other, which isn't typical for EII.
"unless I create some easy way to." - Efficiency (the ideal) tends to be very XII but effectiveness (shortest path) seems more of an IXI goal.
"Nirvana sounds weird af to me" - I meant the term to refer to places away from it all where all expectations have been met so there's nothing left to do.
"Embarassed after they lost control of what," - Some seem to have inner LSEs that get out infrequently but when they do, the scene can be really out of character."
"I am embarassed easily but mostly because I said something stupid or someone caught me saying something stupid." - This is highest on the LII's list but I thought uncontrolled outbursts were highest for EIIs; I stand corrected.
"Not the best at cutting ppl down," - Cutting down referred to verbal abilities that are somewhat surgical in nature and being able to use them has more to do with confidence.
"Also wish I was more direct." - Again, this has more to do with self-confidence.

Note that most of my exposure to INFjs has been in work environments; I didn't form close or lasting relationships with the few that I've met socially. This likely skews my view.....

a.k.a. I/O

[Lord Pixel]

@Lord Pixel
"My Ne is way too all over the place to be super organized" - Ne by itself cannot create disorganization; uncontrolled input causes flitting from one thing to the other, which isn't typical for EII.
"unless I create some easy way to." - Efficiency (the ideal) tends to be very XII but effectiveness (shortest path) seems more of an IXI goal.
"Nirvana sounds weird af to me" - I meant the term to refer to places away from it all where all expectations have been met so there's nothing left to do.
"Embarassed after they lost control of what," - Some seem to have inner LSEs that get out infrequently but when they do, the scene can be really out of character."
"I am embarassed easily but mostly because I said something stupid or someone caught me saying something stupid." - This is highest on the LII's list but I thought uncontrolled outbursts were highest for EIIs; I stand corrected.
"Not the best at cutting ppl down," - Cutting down referred to verbal abilities that are somewhat surgical in nature and being able to use them has more to do with confidence.
"Also wish I was more direct." - Again, this has more to do with self-confidence.

Note that most of my exposure to INFjs has been in work environments; I didn't form close or lasting relationships with the few that I've met socially. This likely skews my view.....

a.k.a. I/O

Wow, yes that is very true for me, and very embarrassing, I know what you mean by control now.

My Ne does cause me to lose focus and procrastinate on responsibilities in favor of doing something more interesting. Organization being a less interesting responsibility.

Also the most surgical cut downers I've seen are high Ti users, as they use painful truths and exacting language to really get underneath someone's skin, from my point of view as a non Ti user that is. I will say EII can attack someone's psyche in a surgical way yea, knowing ppl's deeper cares and deeper flaws.

And as far as sounding stupid, does one feel pain or experience a sense of inadequacy when critiqued on their role function? I think I might also feel critique on my DS function. Like just low T in general be critiqued can be embarrassing. Much more frequently embarrassed by this as it has higher chance to happen, and uncontrolled outbursts rarely ever happen, but when they do the embarrassment is longer lasting.

[Rebelondeck]

.....Also the most surgical cut downers I've seen are high Ti users, as they use painful truths and exacting language to really get underneath someone's skin, from my point of view as a non Ti user that is......

The way that this aspect of my behaviour has been described by more than a few (word gets around) is that my words skewer the body and the chair too if they happen to be sitting down. EIIs get under the skin.

a.k.a. I/O

[Lord Pixel]

The way that this aspect of my behaviour has been described by more than a few (word gets around) is that my words skewer the body and the chair too if they happen to be sitting down. EIIs get under the skin.

a.k.a. I/O

Yea, definitely don't stop at the skin.

[ooo]

And as far as sounding stupid, does one feel pain or experience a sense of inadequacy when critiqued on their role function? I think I might also feel critique on my DS function. Like just low T in general be critiqued can be embarrassing. Much more frequently embarrassed by this as it has higher chance to happen, and uncontrolled outbursts rarely ever happen, but when they do the embarrassment is longer lasting.

The literature says we are bothered by the critiques to our Role, Polr and Mobilizing (Ti, Se and Si for an EII), critiques to our DS should be taken gladly... but I doubt it's really so either/or.

[Lord Pixel]

The literature says we are bothered by the critiques to our Role, Polr and Mobilizing (Ti, Se and Si for an EII), critiques to our DS should be taken gladly... but I doubt it's really so either/or.

I just feel any critique to T is painful being low T myself. But yea critique to those functions def makes sense for sure. Especially PoLR, it's like WOO!

[Sol]

literature says we are bothered by the critiques to our Role, Polr and Mobilizing

the most annoying is the critique in nonvalued weak regions as those regions are prefered to be ignored and meanwhile are weak - you don't want to hear about that and can't protect good there

people with ego regions of your superego may annoy and supress your psyche even by their presence and neutral communicating, by talking with other where show their thinking styles. in superego it's noticable the most. the most weird people I saw were among them. not all superegos are perceived as much bad, but the worst by perceptions are from there

conflictors are said as the worst because Augustinavichiute has decided the weakest is "polr". but it's not such by Jung. suggestive-role is the weakest and most traumatic for me were remembered Fe influences. and you do not even expect they'll influence on you so much badly as this is the least conscious region where you understand yourself the least

[Lord Pixel]

the most annoying is the critique in nonvalued weak regions as those regions are prefered to be ignored and meanwhile are weak - you don't want to hear about that and can't protect good there

people with ego regions of your superego may annoy and supress your psyche even by their presence and neutral communicating, by talking with other where show their thinking styles. in superego it's noticable the most. the most weird people I saw were among them. not all superegos are perceived as much bad, but the worst by perceptions are from there

conflictors are said as the worst because Augustinavichiute has decided the weakest is "polr". but it's not such by Jung. suggestive-role is the weakest and most traumatic for me were remembered Fe influences. and you do not even expect they'll influence on you so much badly as this is the least conscious region where you understand yourself the least

This actually explains my attitude towards Ti. As it does cause the most anger in me. PoLR critique causes anger as well, but Ti critque or Ti style criticisms or dark humor are the most traumatic, it is the only time in my life where I am willing to get physically violent over words. In other words Ti - them's fighting words.