What D Se do LSE have?Originally Posted by Alonzo
What D Se do LSE have?
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Including the subtypes, somewhere in the 3-4D range. Typically, LSEs have no problem implementing/getting things done (which includes mobilizing/delegating to others, as well)--it's one of their superpowers.
We’ll see time always tells
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Wouldn't it be more fitting to wait until typings are confirmed to add them to your list?
What D Se is it when they use their logic to determine that something isn’t bringing in enough material rewards for them to act on the said venture?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1004537
Typing of home robbers by their style. From the series "Non-typical typology".
How to determine the TIM of uninvited house guests by characteristic clues.
Balzac - ILI
According to the witnesses, was seen carrying out a huge load, muttering: "What is the point?"
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Balzac does the work as they mutter and criticize LSE doesn’t. He is NOT doing the work in which he finds no material (S) reward in
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Listening to aktual fakts and considering others' opinions/viewpoints? Horrendous. You must be new, huh.
That's not how we do things around here
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
I had ISFp in mind as the third type I was considering for you and you confirmed it when you said you like Fe and Fe atmosphere
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
All dimensions of Se would be able to reach that conclusion, albeit with different scopes and, arguably, levels of accuracy and certainty.
1D Se would arrive there based on past experiences of themselves and others; 2D Se would arrive there based on past experiences + what the norms (theoretical collective/"common" knowledge) usually dictate; 3D would arrive there based on past experiences + what the norms dictate + using the aforementioned situationally/across context; 4D would arrive there based on past experiences + what the norms dictate + applying situational context + how the aforementioned might develop at any point on the time continuum, divorced from the current reality, thereby foreseeing various outcomes and potentialities.
Therefore, it would seem to be a safer bet to go with 4D Se's "reading"/understanding of a certain Se-related situation than someone with 1D Se who can't get away from their own limited experiences, even though that past experience could be rooted in a truth relevant to the conclusion reached; however, 4D Se would bring much greater scope most likely leading to some correct/accurate action or lack thereof, which may not be so bad a thing for all others to heed, considering that's their "superpower"/expertise.
Right and for the above mentioned it can not be concluded that it was 1D Se because you don’t have all the information as to where his statement was coming from
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
LSE has 4D Se, I would likely have 1D Se
I have an easier time actually acting once I have done it before. My problem with everything has always been starting and trying new things. Whenever I get told to do something I haven't done before there is al likely chance I will say stuff like "what's the point""it will be boring anyway". And then then afterwards I will get made fun of for actually enjoying it after I got forced into doing it anyway.
Nope, went to his typing thread; he's a ILI seeking his SEE dual, which ties into his comments on this thread re: "I would go for someone to act instead of plan or get ideas, because I have plenty but I don't act on them." & "Feeling as if it doesn't matter, seeing how little effect something has which leads up to failing to get through the initial steps to get it going."
Moreover...What do you look for in friends? In romantic relationships?
People that I feel like I have a connection with while being entertaining for me. I like it when a girl is forcefull and confident yet kind.
Never, ever, in my entire life--I'm from a heavy Delta leaning country, with LSEs/SLIs pouring from every crevice of my social networks (family, friends, etc...), many of whom I work with intimately ("upper management")--have I encountered a LSE that would utter the above thoughts/sentiments. NEVER. If you know "LSEs" like that, I have news for you--they aren't LSEs. Period.
Here at 16types we don't listen to facts and logic, we DESTORY people with them.Listening to aktual fakts and considering others' opinions/viewpoints? Horrendous. You must be new, huh.
That's not how we do things around here
How I see that different from being activated with Ne?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Ne would be the posibility (which I shut down) and Se the action (which I don't resist)
Alright like I said I’m not changing my typing of you. LSE is final
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Ah I see. Si dom seems a bit odd for me/not one of the first things I would have considered based upon what I've read of it, but I'll put it into consideration at the very least. I might take a look at some of the things posted in Robobot's thread, as some fairly decent Si descriptions seem to have made their way there
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This must be year of the ESE-Fe. Imoutthere is another one. This is a good example of Fe/Si writing:
Fe/Si (^) aptly expresses and reflects mainstream values (everything has a mainstream, the mainstream of rap, the mainstream of psychology, the mainstream of academia, etc).
Obvious Ni PoLr is obvious.
I've literally combated your mainstream argument before. Why not try defending yourself before spouting the same bullshit over and over again?
I also have this to ask you: the user you're typing is basically defending the scientific method and empirically bound methodology towards forming conclusions. Yes, it's packaged in emotionally stimulating language, which could be an indication of Fe valuing. However, if those views are mainstream and is subject to an Ni PoLR typing, then are all scientists Ni PoLR? ADDITION: Or at least, is science an Ni PoLR area of study? I assume you don't believe so since there's a copious amount of Ni being used in science, especially theoretical physics and believing otherwise would just show ignorance. You need to be more specific in your writing or else you risk forming bullshit conclusions like that one. You may have more complex ideas, but your writing indicates that you make broad generalizations off limited data that isn't nearly as conclusive or comprehensive as you'd like it to be.
EDIT: Let me add that I don't fully agree with the user's thoughts. Socionics and its relation to science is a complex topic that requires time and effort to provide a precise argument for. I've talked about it in the past with others and there are a lot of nuances to it that are needed to be covered in order to have a valid argument. I'm just saying this so as to not be pigeonholed by you or any others that I have the same ideas as the OP or something.
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I've always wondered about that first part as well. Because he claims to be type 8, yet just ignores all criticism rather than accepting the challenge - which doesn't seem very 8 to me. Seems to be an attitude of "if I ignore it, it doesn't exist"
For all those who want to understand what Fi is I made a post here
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...05#post1332705
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
For all who want misinformation go there ^
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Is this supposed to be a performance art thing or something? Sometimes I have a hard time discerning between satire and sincerity.
8s are notorious for ignoring criticism and different points of view. Could be any type tho
At a quick glance, #9's location looked like Breaking Bad. Cannot unsee.
@aster - SEE "SEE – always the leader, ambitious and confident. Naturally proves to be the center of attention in any group. The desire, without fail, to lead, to control" - final type
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Okay this thing has to stop, honestly.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Thiccest skull on the planet - thinks Ni is timestamps - ESE confirmed
Final typing added to the glorious list of lists
The sweet irony of self-awareness. Or the lack thereof.The worst part is the bolded "to control"
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
No; she admitted to being a control freak herself and other things she's posted do not indicate any other type except SEE. And SEE have and use Fi. Their Fi accompany a certain level of will power, the ability to mobilize to take care of 4 kids all by herself; and she expands the energy appropriately in order to take out something that requires a lot of effort.
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1332164
Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
Wow Aster, seriously where do you get the energy. My baby love is 8 months old and I have been struggling. I am not that energetic and I don't have the energy for a baby so I have lots of help from my mom, mil, husband, aunts, cousins, sister. Yeah I want to be the princess in the tower that has everyone do everything around her.
Always, and in everything, SEE tries to display his advantages to others. Should he suffer injustice he will find a way to turn it around, presenting himself to others so as not to lose face, even conversely to appear the victor. He never acknowledges his injuries.
SEE tends not to get lost in the difficult situation; in such cases he rather reacts with more strength, mobilizing to surmount the difficulty.
Energetic and noisy, he creates the impression that he is occupying as much space as possible.
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Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Most of this site - x69 tritype/archetype, with the exception of a few
NO
I'm EII
I stubbornly persist towards my GOALS as a strategic declaring type.
For someone who has been here since 2005 and technically you should know socioncis well you should know exactly what that means.
And stop supervising me. PERIOD.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Wait I didn't add FDG to my list after all
FDG - SEE final type (added to list)
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
lol so who mentioned me being EII this time that caused you know who to go after me like a rabid dog.
Oh well.
All I can say is, thats nice, dear.
You can do what you want, I will keep on doing what I want, and we can go on like this forever.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
mb physiology of brain will give objective typing methods one day
then to falsely claim alike "I'm EII" will be the same as to claim "I'm a unicorn"
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