Is sex better with Dual or Mirage?
ILI who has only been with IEE but just met an SEE. I'm just curious as to whether I would experience the same spark and passion with my dual that I get with my mirage in sex.
Has anyone experienced sex/ relationships with both?= their dual and mirage?
Bonus points for threesome
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With my husband, LSE. But because we have love and intimacy not just passion
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I've had sex over a period of a couple years with a Mirage, and it was amazing. Same with a previous Mirage partner many years ago. But my mirage partners are Erotically compatible with me (Aggressor & Victim). Not all Mirage partners are erotically compatible with each other. Yours are not, if you've typed both of you correctly. (IEE = Childlike, ILI = Victim).
I once had sex with a woman I met while walking home from the bars. Met her, and 20 minutes later we were having sex. This continued for the rest of the night and all the next day. I was drunk throughout, but I remember enough about that whole day to say that once we got going, it was pretty great. We were outside in a large park by a river, it was raining steadily, and I had my pants on and off so many times that I lost my wallet. By the time I took her home, she looked like she had been captured by a motorcycle gang. I called her the next day, but we didn't meet again because we live 150 miles apart. I still have her picture, and she VI's as an ESI.
I find that sex with a Mirage is kind of electric and great, while sex with a dual (IIRC, and that's a big If) is comfortable and great.
Not really sure if it can be backed up, but I've seen it said that there's nothing better than sex between ILI and IEE.
Probably something an ILI said. Wishful thinking because they wanted all the IEE ass.
I vote for a study group on this
If I'm just looking for a fun, amphetamine-esque, no-frills, high impact fling, then mirage partner (LSI); I find that we can't sustain our role functions sufficiently enough to keep the other interested beyond amusement park level "entertainment." I'm intrigued enough to attempt to pull back the top layers, but the amount of digging and plowing necessary before accessing the fruits of that blood red ethical cherry is just...too much work. lol
On the other hand, it's much harder to do flings with my dual (ESI) because they have a nice/nasty habit of beguiling/seducing/intoxicating/addicting me and before I know it, I'm strung out worse than any junkie--there is a feeling of full mind-body-spirit, in sync wholeness and completeness that a mirage partner can't provide. Succinctly put, it doesn't take as many licks to hit that bubblegum center.
I second that motion. This definitely needs more study. For Science.Originally Posted by Smilex
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If said SEE is SX-last, anticipate less of an erotic spark. But usually, personality-wise — looks and sexual skill level notwithstanding — duals have better overall chemistry. ILI-IEE mirage is pretty heavy on the intuition, the visceral component is missing and SEE definitely has that one. Beware of being enthralled. I'd hesitate to invite IEE and SEE to a threesome, but maybe ILIs dig that level of destruction and chaos. Two outlaws!
I suppose that when it comes to that between delta and gamma irrationality one has to change between gimp suits and uniforms.
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As little as I know about instinctual stacking, I think that’s the most important component in sexual chemistry. :/
According to the theory it's much worse if you're an irrational type and more or less the same if you're a rational type. Because sex is only executed with irrational functions
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Sex is driven by one's animalistic nature and has little to do with cognition; many might relate to that regretful one-night stand. I've had my most intense sexual experiences with an ESI but I've had my worst with another ESI. Given equal physical attraction (the primary catalyst), sex seemed to be best with couples who have the lesser combined-amounts of baggage, which promotes confidence to let the animals out - and that's not type related......
a.k.a. I/O
Aren't irrational functions animalistic to some degree
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Here are some words of wisdom from Amber. I believe she is an LSI sx/so, and I (an sx/so) instantly thought she was hot from the moment I first started reading her posts. It was like a house on fire can recognize another burning house.
Amber said: "Sx first is the most compatible .... to such an extent that a relationship with an Sx often proves superior to one that should be mana-from-the-sky socionically.
Sx/so is incredibly compatible, but there's lots of tension as well due to a form of "total commitment anxiety". You feel the Sx pull that wants to merge and give it all, but at the same time Sx/so has to feel free to be safe. If you let them be, they come to you. If you make them jealous, they can be like puppies. If you make claims, you risk losing them.
Sp/so is very calming, very dedicated and trustable usually ...it makes for an interesting dynamic.... but I don't think I actually ever had such a partner. So/sp has a fetish for power stuff that -- must admit - sometimes turns me on. It's engaging and demanding, makes me work and think and asks stuff from me, which can be cool. So/sx is very positive, very sweet, but sometimes I don't know if they don't like everyone the same way.
We flirt a lot and keep the vibe up high, but there are attachment questions at play. Sp/sx is the most far-off , autistic, and bland to me romantically or erotically speaking."
I will admit that I find sx-first women instantly attractive, and sx-last women cold and remote. @Olimpia claims that the best match for someone who is sx-first is someone who is sx-second, but to the best of my knowledge, I haven't tested that theory.
Interesting, Please explain lolIf said SEE is SX-last, anticipate less of an erotic spark. But usually, personality-wise — looks and sexual skill level notwithstanding — duals have better overall chemistry. ILI-IEE mirage is pretty heavy on the intuition, the visceral component is missing and SEE definitely has that one. Beware of being enthralled. I'd hesitate to invite IEE and SEE to a threesome, but maybe ILIs dig that level of destruction and chaos. Two outlaws!
What do you mean?
What is all this sx/so stuff and where can I read about it lol. I'm a beginner I'm trying to keep up
If you define irrational as not using reason or clear thinking, then our animalistic urges can indeed be (simple stimulus-response). When referring to cognition, I prefer to use a term like input-oriented, input-priority or input-driven type rather than irrational. "Irrational cognition" seems to be an oxymoron - irrational types aren't truly irrational.......
a.k.a. I/O
This refers to instinctual stacks. Basically, there are just a few ways to describe a person fairly well. Socionics, enneagram, and instinctual stacking. You can read more about this here: https://oceanmoonshine9.wordpress.co...tual-subtypes/
Sex is best with conflictor. Hatefucking all the way lol
Yes, and all the passive anal afterwards when traumatised EII was finally able to open up about it with their therapist.
Nothing beats an SE-heavy Beta gang-bang in the shower.
And revenge porn afterwards.
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I think sex is best with who you want to have sex with, nothing to do with type.
yea its completely unrelated
best sex I ever had, I think the guy was an SLI, maybe LSI.. I think SLI works better... that would make him my activator, or super-ego, or perhaps dual or conflictor... I'm not sure. : )
he was damn slow... mmm
I had a short relationship with an ILI woman about 13 years ago. Sex with her was, in terms of existential experiences, by far the best I ever had. I am of the opinion these experiences had EVERTHING to do with the mirage aspect of our relationship. I totally owned that woman, but in the process, lost myself. A year after we split up, she moved away to another part of the country. If I were to run into her tomorrow in the street, I would not be sure that I would be able to restrain myself.
Now every now and then an ILI woman offers herself to me on a silver platter, and I have to make sure to get away from her before I make a serious error. I don't know why ILI women do this, they seem to have absolutely no hesitations to approach me at all. They seem to communicate at a wavelength I'm tuned to, as I I can hear the true message encoded in the carrier wave. At times it made me wonder if I mistyped myself and wondered if I am SEE instead.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Not a great way to go about typing yourself
Smile! You're on my ignore list!
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
And Socionics works again. She’s ESE. What relationship uncomfortableness did you just experience?
Anyway I ignore her (Fe)
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I find it funny that people have to make a big song and dance about adding me to their ignore list. No way am I ESE or anything outside of the beta quadra.
lol adding someone to ignore for stating their view... so Ne of them
She deserves it, you have to see the big picture.
Oooh ignore lists, how punishing. Fuck off.
Dual sex is way better. But sex isn't everything and a relationship can't really flourish with good sex alone. And lust/attraction is gonna die out eventually no matter how good it is in the moment. ((with that said, people aren't really gonna be with ppl they don't want to bang really. Asexuality isn't typical.))
I agree with you 100%
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
the more of personal sympathy - the more of positive impressions to deal in anything
duality is better. when other factors would be same
besides other, sexual attraction depends on physical traits much and this influences on the result
true... as shallow as it is, my best sex rankings are proportional with the physical attraction I had for said guys.
I can share more with you over private
Sex is better with whomever you are in love with.
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