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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Something that’s self-evident isn’t intuition unless you’re referring to common sense.
    An Intuitionist would say that a certain kind of intuition is self-evident, therefore need no longer be questioned.

    intuitionism

    the theory that primary truths and principles (especially those of ethics and metaphysics) are known directly by intuition.
    What I'm saying is that an intuition is just a certain kind of a theory or background knowledge that we have yet to understand how it works.

    Anyway, there's actually no such thing as something that's "self-evident", it just means that it hasn't been challenged yet and we have yet to have an explanation for why that thing is the way it is, which is a normal state for most things, because we have no ultimate justifications for anything. And we don't need ultimate justifications. We just propose an (unjustified) idea, then we criticize it so that it can be improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Anyway, there's actually no such thing as something that's "self-evident", it just means that it hasn't been challenged yet and we have yet to have an explanation for why that thing is the way it is, which is a normal state for most things, because we have no ultimate justifications for anything. And we don't need ultimate justifications. We just propose an (unjustified) idea, then we criticize it so that it can be improved.
    This makes no sense. We don't need to form some sort of falsification club and challenge everything and just endlessly improve ideas. You need an ultimate justification for at least one thing to know what "improved" consists of anyways. For example, let's say I think it's better for things to be lighter than to be heavier since that looks good on paper, right? Since I decided the most important thing to start with is humanity, I shall propose that we all get our limbs cut off and then get whittled down until we weigh nothing at all. Then, we shall be completely improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    An Intuitionist would say that a certain kind of intuition is self-evident, therefore need no longer be questioned.



    What I'm saying is that an intuition is just a certain kind of a theory or background knowledge that we have yet to understand how it works.

    Anyway, there's actually no such thing as something that's "self-evident", it just means that it hasn't been challenged yet and we have yet to have an explanation for why that thing is the way it is, which is a normal state for most things, because we have no ultimate justifications for anything. And we don't need ultimate justifications. We just propose an (unjustified) idea, then we criticize it so that it can be improved.
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    1) Intuitionism isn’t the same thing as intuition in general. These are different concepts.

    2) Intuition doesn’t have to be a theory if you don’t want it to be lol.

    3) Well, it can be argued I guess that what is considered self-evident or common sense can be subjective sometimes.

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    Intuition is always numerous steps a head of empiricism, which can only really operate in hindsight. If it weren't for intuition, we would do or say anything because it wasn't scientifically proven yet. We use it everyday in numerous different situation and is a large driver of our behavior. However, due to their subjective nature we should not hesitate to question intuitions that go against strong empirical data and evidence, as long as the data has a high confidence of being right. The data should count.

    Live by intuition, learn by science.

    Life is more meaningful with intuition as a guide. It is important for so many things, from art, to the humanities, to the sciences. It is a large component of who we are. Without it, we would not have imagination, and as Einstein once said, “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”

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