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    Default T music

    with not too serious aproach as music, being the emotional region, is opposite to T

    common are electronic, industrial, sci-fi associations







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    How about Autechre limh
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    Autechre is definitely NT style music. A lot of IDM and Techno tracks also.

    Most of the tracks of e.g. Boards of Canada, Future Sound of London or Squarepusher
    like this ones:






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    T style music with Introverted Intution



    Only 43 Minutes to listen to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    How about Autechre limh
    I am really getting into them. Love their song 444 off their first studio release.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    I am really getting into them. Love their song 444 off their first studio release.
    I had a hard time getting into them because they are so stark. When I want something more heady than my usual artists, I reach for Plaid, Boards of Canada, Loscil and Vangelis, and Underworld because they still have a melodic-feely nature. Underworld is my favorite.

    Here is a classic from the late 90s. IDM experimental at the time and very groundbreaking ime. It is really beautiful. Enjoy!!

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    : ) another favorite

    This one has lyrics. Would you agree this is T?

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    Another classic fav. The whole album is magnificent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    This one has lyrics. Would you agree this is T?

    Too much ethical judgement in the lyrics for T style music.

    Plaid is T style music, however.

    Antarctica from Vangelis has a strong focus on

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Too much ethical judgement in the lyrics for T style music.
    Gosh darn it all! Limh. : )
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    Trying for T lyrics again ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Trying for T lyrics again ...
    I say yes, T style + hidden agenda

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    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post


    overpowers every other function

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    This song might not actually be T but it is still cute and worth mentioning.
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    Die Kunst der Fuge

    Seems like T music taken to an extreme

    https://youtu.be/Lrb0dHKJBR4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Die Kunst der Fuge

    Seems like T music taken to an extreme
    Yeah, most of the musical compositions of J.S. Bach are T style, they're logícal constructions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Yeah, most of the musical compositions of J.S. Bach are T style, they're logícal constructions.
    Yes he is very T. But there are also plenty of his works that seem to have more F than kunst der fuge. I though it is most extreme T. Do you know any of his works thatwould be even more?
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    While I'm hardly into sports, this is from the Olympics soundtrack in the early 90s. I always loved the sound of ambition which the song conveys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Yes he is very T.
    To be honest it's quite difficult to categorize or sort intrumental music pieces into T or F.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    But there are also plenty of his works that seem to have more F than kunst der fuge. I though it is most extreme T.
    I dare to say that alle fugues of Bach are T style music, because they're all logical structured.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Do you know any of his works thatwould be even more?
    I'm not an expert in the music of J.S. Bach, I know only a limited number of pieces from him. It's not the music I usually listen to.

    So far I can tell J.S. Bach has a strong focus on T and in his compositions.

    Air is very and also more F style.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Another classic fav. The whole album is magnificent!
    The following one from Vangelis has a similar style... and has more calm attitude.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    The following one from Vangelis has a similar style... and has more calm attitude.

    That one always makes me feel really sad within seconds.
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    ^^^
    That piece of music not T style confirmed.

    It sounds quite melancholic, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    ^^^
    That piece of music not T style confirmed.

    It sounds quite melancholic, yes.
    Heh ok.

    This one is calm and stoic.

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    Ok, back to topic. T style music

    This one is and


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    Ok this seems solid NT all-around.

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    A T cover of a very F song.
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    A lot of the music in this thread seems F style. Or maybe NiFe, ambient style. The problem is to get to the real T music, not just music that represents T style symbolically, like Future Sound of London that has a very futuristic, modern sound, but still F.

    I like FSOL, I used to listen to it, but it sounds F.

    One should try to find music that conveys as little feeling or mood as possible. Maybe it's not possible to get rid of all the F though.

    ok, I'll try:

    What about Stockhausen?


    even Mozart seems often surprisingly T, when one listens with it in mind, like in this sonata:



    some more Bach:
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    More T music, as just about everything in this thread is except maybe the classical suggestions are to a lesser extent, as they strike me as still being rather emotive in nature (Fi thrown in).

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    Parodies of songs are prolly T music because there's no feeling behind them at all except mockery That and nerds usually like parody music more than actual music because they dislike too heavy emotions.

    Also, music at American baseball games is pretty T. Esp the 70s rock.

    King Crimson might be T too. Ayreon works @Sol

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    Yet another good song

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    Quote Originally Posted by chryskoru View Post
    Parodies of songs are prolly T music because there's no feeling behind them at all except mockery That and nerds usually like parody music more than actual music because they dislike too heavy emotions.

    Also, music at American baseball games is pretty T. Esp the 70s rock.

    King Crimson might be T too. Ayreon works @Sol






    These don't evoke any feelings in me. Although I can see how they can be catchy. Maybe a bit of Ne in some make them catchy.

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    ~* astralsilky



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    hmm

    This is Nicolette from Massive Attack. I never got into the latter but her solo work is interesting. This song is more for the instrumentation though than her real singing style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chryskoru View Post
    Parodies of songs are prolly T music because there's no feeling behind them at all except mockery That and nerds usually like parody music more than actual music because they dislike too heavy emotions.
    Parodies, which are also interesting as music itself - relate more to F, as mb heard more to get pleasant emotions than to notice a humor. For example:


    and T style mockery


    > Also, music at American baseball games is pretty T. Esp the 70s rock.

    I suppose, you overesteemate the intellectualism of the music for sport fans

    > King Crimson might be T too. Ayreon works, Sol

    Progressive rock mb thought as a mix of F and T approaches.

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    Here is another T song, with subtle F.

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    Some tracks from the 1980s.



    Mostly a piece of T music, with a very weak focus on F valued subdued lyrics.




    hidden agenda only, but otherwise T style and irrational.
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