Si PoLR or Te PoLR?

[0i0]

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[Simo]

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well I don't see any si polr mentioned below!!

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sound like weak Te and btw I like how you went about it (though paperwork is always boring)

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do you mean you have difficulty memorizing combos? or when to use them?

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sound like valued Si, did you consider ESE and SEI?

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any examples?

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why are you trying to explain those ideas to someone who isn't opened to them? also what type of ideas are you talking about?

[Bertrand]

this sounds more like Te suggestive and Si valuing to me.. right down to the "tell me what this is on the basis of some anecdotes"

that said, I think your post is really just one more anecdote so the above is not necessarily conclusive, just a first impression

[golden]

Only a few bits are still visible from being quoted. I think the “Si-Te complex”— ie these two IEs blocked together—means you’re describing both at once. The way certain kinds of red-tape-style instructions, forms, and administrative procedures are created combines those IEs, and your description of both not following something like that (Te) and feeling upset or internally dysregulated about it, in a maybe overwhelmed way (Si), possibly does too. Some stuff looks needlessly arbitrary from the POV that devalues the two elements, because it is a series of steps that “work” in practice but that probably don’t adhere to any Ti principles to organize them, and that don’t prioritize the human experience.

But just based on what I can see, this may lean a little more Te polr.

[0i0]

@Simo, @Bertrand, @golden Thank you guys, I really appreciate your answers.

[Simo]

@Simo, @Bertrand, @golden Thank you guys, I really appreciate your answers.

you are welcome anytime, and btw I deleted the quotes I had of your OP since you deleted it

[0i0]

you are welcome anytime, and btw I deleted the quotes I had of your OP since you deleted it

Oh, that's ver, kind of you, I appreciate it! I know though, that once I posted something, it will stay on the internet, and I'm okay with you or others quoting it.

I deleted my post, as I realized I should encourage other ways in myself to see who I am, and because I felt I lacked the knowledge about Si and Te PoLR in the first place, so it became very "anecdotal" (as Bertrand phrased it) therefore maybe lacking the necessary information. I'm sorry I wasted your time and thoughts, as others won't see them now, but they also gave me some perspective, and I'm very grateful for that.

I also truly appreciate your kindness, and how you respected my decision to delete my post, this honestly made my day.

[Simo]

Oh, that's ver, kind of you, I appreciate it! I know though, that once I posted something, it will stay on the internet, and I'm okay with you or others quoting it.

yeah but it won't stay forever

I deleted my post, as I realized I should encourage other ways in myself to see who I am, and because I felt I lacked the knowledge about Si and Te PoLR in the first place, so it became very "anecdotal" (as Bertrand phrased it) therefore maybe lacking the necessary information. I'm sorry I wasted your time and thoughts, as others won't see them now, but they also gave me some perspective, and I'm very grateful for that.

no need to apologize, you wrote the thread to get more clarity so if our responses gave you some perspective then our time & thoughts aren't really wasted

to make you feel more guilt, I wasted more time to find these three parts of a socionics introductory
http://worldsocionics.blogspot.com/2...cs-part-1.html
http://worldsocionics.blogspot.com/2...cs-part-2.html
http://worldsocionics.blogspot.com/2...cs-part-3.html

I don't know if they are to basic for you, but I think they explain most of the basics after which you should be able to read more in depth articles and type descriptions as you like

I also truly appreciate your kindness, and how you respected my decision to delete my post, this honestly made my day.

Glad to hear this

[0i0]

yeah but it won't stay forever



no need to apologize, you wrote the thread to get more clarity so if our responses gave you some perspective then our time & thoughts aren't really wasted

to make you feel more guilt, I wasted more time to find these three parts of a socionics introductory
http://worldsocionics.blogspot.com/2...cs-part-1.html
http://worldsocionics.blogspot.com/2...cs-part-2.html
http://worldsocionics.blogspot.com/2...cs-part-3.html

I don't know if they are to basic for you, but I think they explain most of the basics after which you should be able to read more in depth articles and type descriptions as you like



Glad to hear this

I'll dive into them, thank you very much!

[Sol]

I'll dive into them, thank you very much!

"Jungian Dichotomies - The original four dichotomies that can be found in MBTI and Socionics but are given significantly more nuanced definitions in the latter. These are Energising/Integrating (also called Extroversion/Introversion), Intuition/Sensation, Logic/Ethics (also called Thinking/Feeling) and Rationality/Irrationality (also called Judging/Perceiving).
1. Energising and Integrating"

it's not Socionics but a kind of heresy. do not waste your time on that

[Exodus]

Only a few bits are still visible from being quoted. I think the “Si-Te complex”— ie these two IEs blocked together—means you’re describing both at once. The way certain kinds of red-tape-style instructions, forms, and administrative procedures are created combines those IEs, and your description of both not following something like that (Te) and feeling upset or internally dysregulated about it, in a maybe overwhelmed way (Si), possibly does too.

I'd say those things are Si+Ti rather than Si+Te. Which, if someone found particularly stressful might suggest EIE > IEI.

[golden]

I'd say those things are Si+Ti rather than Si+Te. Which, if someone found particularly stressful might suggest EIE > IEI.

It sounded to me more like she created a Ti system of her own to cope with Te-style information and processes. I don’t remember everything she wrote now, though.