A nice fun example of estp infp duality:
the movie "Cars" from Walt Disney.
The Red car is an estp 3w2, the blue porsche is an infp (enfj possible but really really doubtful)
Fictional ESTp & INFp Dualities in Movies and Books
A nice fun example of estp infp duality:
the movie "Cars" from Walt Disney.
The Red car is an estp 3w2, the blue porsche is an infp (enfj possible but really really doubtful)
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
OOOOHHHHHHH. THE RED/BLUE CARS ARE SOOO CUTEEEEEEE. AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
INFP
Here they are!
ESTp:
INFp:
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the red car is sexy (i probably mean the look on his face, the animation now a days makes the cartoons very expressionistic its cool)
The INFp never says too many "no" to the ESTp proposals,
wow...i never realized that....i hardly ever just flat out say no to him...if i dont want to do what he wants or whatever, i normally ease around it and say later or something.
(Taken from yesterday night)
(car, 3:00 a.m.)
ESTp: FUCK FUCK FUCK DID YOU SEE? THEY MADE US PAY 3 EUROS MORE THAN EXPECTED, YOU HAVE TO GO HOME THIS TIME IT'S TOO EARLY??? COULDN'T YOU JUST TELL YOUR FATHER TO FUCK OOF BLAH BLAH BLAH RANTING
INFp: (...)...hey look! it's raning on the outside!! (bewildered look)
ESTp: ....yeah, i guess it's raining...
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This video is a nice illustration of ESXp - INXp duality or semi-duality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzrcONv4qKI
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
oh, shit! that sent me straight to 1989
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a good ilustration of INxp/ESxp more INFp/ESTp though as I said in some other thread.
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I don't see what's so important about the possibility of extraterrestrial life. It's just more people to declare war on.
EVERYONE PLZ CONTINUE TO UPLOAD INFINITE AMOUNT OF PICS OF "CUTE" CATS AND PUPPIES. YOU KNOW WE GIVE A SHIT!!
LOL. Cute.
Eternal sunshine? Assuming that the guy is INFP and girl is ESTP. Interesting...I skimmed it...interesting...
INFP
Nah, he's INTp.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
yeah the movie isn't the most brilliant and Carrey annoys the hell out of me n general although he plays one of his best roles in that movie.
the guy = jaded INFp writer, got enough of the 'whole bs'
the girl = fUn-LoVin ESTp chick
yeah I can see a case for INTp buuuuut.. i'll stick to INFp
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I don't see what's so important about the possibility of extraterrestrial life. It's just more people to declare war on.
EVERYONE PLZ CONTINUE TO UPLOAD INFINITE AMOUNT OF PICS OF "CUTE" CATS AND PUPPIES. YOU KNOW WE GIVE A SHIT!!
That's what I thought too.
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Fictional ESTp & INFp Dualities in Movies and Books
INFP
I'm so out of the cultural loop
The only people I knew from those images were the characters from Mars.
I didn't think that they guy and girl from Mars were ESTp and INFp, unless I'm thinking of a different Mars.
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http://allwordstaken.blogspot.com/
I uploaded onto my blog so you can see it there. Don't know where it doesn't work here.
INFP
Aww hehe! =D I always thought maybe Grease demonstrated ESTp-INFp duality but I wasn't sure.
Seems to me though, that I see a lot of ESTp-INFp duality in media, possibly because ESTp and INFp in themselves as types epitomize the ideal of masculinity and feminity.
No?
I sure hope not.No?
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
lol, but I think she is right. The girly girl and the tourtured guy drawn to each other sort of thing.I sure hope not.No?
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lol, no I do think there's some truth to it. There certainly is that dynamic in female INFp/male ESTp dual couples. However, this same dynamic is actually present in female INFj/male ESTj, male ISTp/female ENFp, female ISFj/male ENTj couples as well.
When the genders are switched, however, (ex. male INFp/female ESTp) I think we get something a little different. I still consider myself a pretty feminine guy in many ways, but not exactly "the epitomy of femininity." The female ESTps I've known tend to be masculine in very specific ways (sexual openess, a sort of "vulgarity", blunt sense of humor) but are far from the "epitomy of masculinity."
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
I just meant in the media. I would like to see a male INFp and female ESTp on tv though.
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Also, everyone in show business is an ENTp who thinks they are INFp.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
We're such freaks of nature.Agreed.I sure hope not.No?
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
No, you're both fascinating
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One of my biggest fears is being inhaled by Roseanne Barr. True story.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
I was always fascinated with the ESTP/INFP duality though I wasn't sure what to call it except good girl/bad boy. ESTPs are not quite the epitome, I think ENTJs are...but they're like the 'bad boys'. My esfj friend was never interested as much as me, she'd be urging them to break up and I'd be like NO NO NO you must NOT no, what is wrong with you. And she'd be like he's an asshole! And i'm like no, you don't see it.
INFP
Oh please
Anyways - I tend to be an asshole to ESFjs because their constant, nonsensical chatter tends to annoy me. Of course, there are exceptions to this rule.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
LOL, my future husband's gonna clash with my best friend though not sure i'll keep her around for that long...yes that nonstop chattering, don't have to worry about them running off together, heehee
INFP
What do you mean with ENTjs being the "epitome"?
Besides, I'm note sure if "good girl" accurately sums INFps up.
Wait... stop right there... your "future husband??" Woman don't tell me you've already gone and decided to let Socionics portend your love life! What?! You're going to let a bunch of Russian blowhards decide who you should date, and then marry?? You're just going to sit there and take it up the arse like that?????
I HAVE no identical!
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
LOL. Whoa, calm down. I wasn't all serious but not all joking either. It depends...all depends...don't take infps 100 percent seriously.
Oh right, I guess the INFJs are the good ones, eh.
ENTJs are more...business/logical and aren't men associated with those two things in the old-fashioned sense?
INFP
Unfortunately though, if there's a type that is stereotypically a villain, that is definitely ESTp, with ISTj as close second.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I tend to be an asshole to ESFjs because their constant, nonsensical chatter tends to annoy me.
lmao, Patrick (ESTp) talking to Peter's mom (ESFj) cuz I couldn't get to the phone yet...
L
O
L
He didn't really get any words in, she pretty much carries conversations by herself, which is why she loves me so much. It gives her a girl-talk person, plus I don't always feel like talking back but she doesn't care as long as she gets to talk to someone. ^.^
Perhaps, but the true ENTjs aren't exactly the stereotypical image of what "old-fashioned men" are or should be like. Think of Bill Gates and Tony Blair.
True. Interesting that in MBTI it's usually the ISTP.
However, in terms of villains with power, there are also ENFjs.
The reality, though, is that Betas are more likely to be in positions of "visibly" doing evil if that is their inclination.
yeah really. there's always the infp who fucked her co-worker's husband and lied to everybody about it. i say: gives the impression of being nice, but morally bereft on the inside. (no offense against any infp's here, of course).
Besides, I'm note sure if "good girl" accurately sums INFps up.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
yeah, what about a female intj and a male esfj? or a female estj and a male infj? or a female entp and a male isfj? sometimes i wonder if there even are any celebrity/famous examples of relationships like these!
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
I actually know two male INFj - female ESTj couples, and one male INFp - female ESTp couple.
No celebrities that I can think of, though.
Two other ESTp women I've met seemed to prefer identicals or mirrors, though.
wtf? if not INFps who else? they are such a classic it's sickening.Besides, I'm note sure if "good girl" accurately sums INFps up.
I dunno for a ESTj guy like you though.. It think it's obvious even for the small children that you hate INFps because of some bad real life experience.
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I don't see what's so important about the possibility of extraterrestrial life. It's just more people to declare war on.
EVERYONE PLZ CONTINUE TO UPLOAD INFINITE AMOUNT OF PICS OF "CUTE" CATS AND PUPPIES. YOU KNOW WE GIVE A SHIT!!
read above. they are not truly good girls.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Then it follows that you are the small child yourself, since I don't hate any type. Nor have I had worse real life experiences with INFps than with most other types.
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