You're not SLI or SLE; you're a rational type...
You're not SLI or SLE; you're a rational type...
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Confim him LIE.Originally Posted by Maritsa33
LIE? Not a chance. "Future oriented thinking, long term plans" not even close.
In fact, all these type theories are actually what got me in to "thinking" so much. Before I knew about MBTI/Socionics/Enneagram, I was hardly a "thinker," in the common sense of the word. It just seems like these theories have loopholes within loopholes and it's caused me to spiral out of control real quick, further and further into my head-which makes me question being a genuine enneagram type 5. Since discovering type theories and being constantly told, "it's not that simple...'x' could actually be a product of 'y' or maybe 'z'" I've just become more and more detached and analytical, constantly getting wrapped up in endless details and losing sense of what really is/matters.
So, I'm just gonna say screw how I've been since discovering these theories and take myself back to when I was younger and wasn't so consumed with, "figuring myself out."
I'm going to take an excerpt from a type growth description I read a while back, when I was studying MBTI, which was probably the most groundbreaking thing I had ever read. It was one of those, "I've been trying to explain this for a long time and here are the words for it," kind of deals. Fits me pre-type theory to a 'T.'
As for my own input, I'm just gonna avoid trying to explain myself, until I can get out of this funk. I will say this though, getting wrapped up in the seemingly endless self-analysis and details of type theory, has caused me to become a recluse and a lot more uptight. Before I bumped into a little identity crisis towards the end of high school and then found type theory, I never thought twice about who I or anyone else for that matter was. I didn't really care. I was me and people were people.are action-oriented thinkers. They are highly tuned into their immediate environment, and driven to interact with it in a hands-on fashion. It is by working with things in their environment that they experience and understand life. By working physically with their environment, they have a natural and immediate understanding of how things work, and how best to achieve their identified goals. Although they constantly use logic to determine how to best manipulate objects in their immediate situation, they are not naturally analytical in a more objective sense. When they step back to methodically analyze the relationship between objects in their world, they often lose touch with their understanding. Their understanding is intimately tied into their physical experience with reality. It is immediate and wholistic. They are naturally "in-sync" with the physical world, and value life largely in terms of their ability to flow with and conquer the physical challenges presented to them. Although they think about and value past experiences, they live almost entirely in the here and now...They excel at tasks that require a great deal of tactile mastery, as well as quick, logic-based action......often resist and rebel situations that are entirely new, or that require a great deal of structured planning and thinking. This way of thinking is foreign and therefore uncomfortable. When someone tries to push or control 'X' into these situations, he or she is likely to "walk away" from that person without looking back.
Edit: Basically what I've done with my own personality is like, when you look at a word for so long it begins to start looking funny. It's still the same word, your perception of it is just jacked because you paid too much attention to it.
Just to add to that. I had another one of those groundbreaking, "I've been trying to describe this for a long time" moments when I looked into "learning styles." I read a book made for parents, to help them understand their children's needs at an early age. Bottom line, there were 4 learning styles, I came out Concrete-Random. Here's some stuff on that:Concrete Randoms prefer:
Trial and error approach
Hands-on experiences
Brainstorming and open-ended activities
Produce real, but creative, products
Original and unique approaches to problem solving
Self-directed learningThe Concrete Random individual:
Is highly curious.
Finds out-of-the-ordinary answers to problems.
Seems driven to say or do things in a way others have not.
Is a risk-taker.
Likes to discover his/her own way of doing things; must test things for self.
Is extremely independent and competitive with self.
Prefers to investigate and experiment; enjoys hands-on experimenting.
Skips steps and details.
Shows original creativity; has varied and unusual ideas.
Has multiple projects going at once.
Finds possibilities, creates change.
Is notorious for not reading directions or instructions.
Fears structure.I might get some more detailed stuff on CR later.Concrete-Random: Practical and live in the physical world, but they like to learn by trial and error. Rather than a plan, they want options.
Thinking processes are instinctive, intuitive, and impulsive.
Events affected by outside variables.
Focus on practical applications, methods, and processes.
Creativity is original, inventive, and unique.
Prefer an environment that is stimulus rich and competitive.
What are you "yesssssssssssssssssssssss"ing? lolyessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
ESTp or ENTp
I dont buy 6, at all...in fact I question even being a 'head type.' I was told by my entire family I was one of the least anxious kids they had ever seen. I never needed reassurance for anything. Didn't have any doubts. Never considered, "what could go wrong." Just lived. I'm not really in any place to determine what I am right now, but if I was pushed I'd say I'd fall under one of the instinctual types(8, 9 or 1). Mayyyyybe type 7. I'll worry about that stuff later, though.
SLE.
I think 8 because control has always been important to me. The second I started to lose "control" as a kid, I became very aggressive in taking it back. I was either always the "leader" of a group or if I wasn't, I always fought to become the "leader" and I had the hardest time following anyone. If I couldn't be the leader of a group I'd usually just ditch and do my own thing. I also follow, "when healthy becomes like a 2, when stressed becomes like a 5." I remember jumping into stuff as a kid, and when I lost control or felt I was beginning to lose control, I'd temporarily separate myself from the situation and kind of strategize, figure out what exactly was going wrong, regain my composure and hop back in. When I was in complete control and was sure that there were no threats to my control, I'd start to become very giving. I'd begin to start offering advice, time, resources, etc. Although, the second I detected a threat, I went back into "stamp you out" mode and made sure whoever it was understood their place(sounds a bit more aggressive that it really was...I rarely got into all out power duals with people...I'm thinking I might actually be an 8w9).
Also, I never really had an issue with authority, although I always wanted to make it clear to authority that I didn't have to listen to them if I didn't want to. That anytime I listened to them, I chose to do so.
7 is questionable. I relate to being a pleasure seeker. Going out and doing stuff for fun. I read a portion of a 7 description that said they enjoy looking through catalogs and whatnot because they find it thrilling to look at various options for pleasure, and compare/contrast. When I was younger I loved picking up catalogs of electronics, real estate, etc. just to check out all the different options and how cool they were/which deals were best. It also mentioned that 7's were likely to know all the best restaurants and whatnot in town because they're always seeking out the best source of pleasure. I can sort of relate to that, although that happens a little more passively. Example: *driving down the road to go to a restaurant and notices a new restaurant* "That looks pretty cool, let's go there instead." Next thing you know, I have a new favorite restaurant.
7 is a bit more sketchy. 8 fits a whole lot better.
Btw, on the off chance that's actually you in your avatar pic(although, I don't think it is)...you're very attractive.
How can you take something back that even isn't there. I mean, did you write control on a brick and when you lost it or someone took it away from you, you wanted it back, screaming "where is my control"?
I not really sure what you're trying to say here. I said "the second I started to lose control" which implies that I had control.
If you're implying control doesn't exist, I'm not even gonna bother having this conversation.
Control exists, whether it be over circumstances, people, self, etc.
You had control, okay.
It only does when you exercise it which means there have to be visible/tangible examples of its use on others or self. If there is none, then there is no "control." Anyway, what sociotype you're leaning?If you're implying control doesn't exist, I'm not even gonna bother having this conversation. Control exists, whether it be over circumstances, people, self, etc.
don't listen to octo. she's VERY attractive!
and yes, sounds very 7ish to me. and SLE. haha
IEIs have spoken. Scratch that SLI on the lfet, under your avatar and you're ready to go. No place for alphas, gammas, and betas in Delta Holy Land of Terror.
SLE: Boxer, but scared in the dark
SLI: Navy Seal, but shy to people
or the illusion of control
mechman.. you seem thinking triad.. 5,6,7.
from what you say here i'm thinking 3w4. but frmo your writing style i'm thinking more 7.I think 8 because control has always been important to me. The second I started to lose "control" as a kid, I became very aggressive in taking it back. I was either always the "leader" of a group or if I wasn't, I always fought to become the "leader" and I had the hardest time following anyone. If I couldn't be the leader of a group I'd usually just ditch and do my own thing. I also follow, "when healthy becomes like a 2, when stressed becomes like a 5." I remember jumping into stuff as a kid, and when I lost control or felt I was beginning to lose control, I'd temporarily separate myself from the situation and kind of strategize, figure out what exactly was going wrong, regain my composure and hop back in. When I was in complete control and was sure that there were no threats to my control, I'd start to become very giving. I'd begin to start offering advice, time, resources, etc. Although, the second I detected a threat, I went back into "stamp you out" mode and made sure whoever it was understood their place(sounds a bit more aggressive that it really was...I rarely got into all out power duals with people...I'm thinking I might actually be an 8w9).
Also, I never really had an issue with authority, although I always wanted to make it clear to authority that I didn't have to listen to them if I didn't want to. That anytime I listened to them, I chose to do so.
7 is questionable. I relate to being a pleasure seeker. Going out and doing stuff for fun. I read a portion of a 7 description that said they enjoy looking through catalogs and whatnot because they find it thrilling to look at various options for pleasure, and compare/contrast. When I was younger I loved picking up catalogs of electronics, real estate, etc. just to check out all the different options and how cool they were/which deals were best. It also mentioned that 7's were likely to know all the best restaurants and whatnot in town because they're always seeking out the best source of pleasure. I can sort of relate to that, although that happens a little more passively. Example: *driving down the road to go to a restaurant and notices a new restaurant* "That looks pretty cool, let's go there instead." Next thing you know, I have a new favorite restaurant.
7 is a bit more sketchy. 8 fits a whole lot better.
Btw, on the off chance that's actually you in your avatar pic(although, I don't think it is)...you're very attractive.
deltas are very stubborn. betas are more wild. both gamma and delta are very controlled. beta is "kind of" controlled, in a way that alphas can think that they're being uptight.
betas are more likely to reject people than betas. but both are pretty upbeat. betas "upbeat" can be kind of depressive though.
3, 7, 8 from that.
haahahaha
totally.
LOL so true and that has to do with the concept of morality and what one views as proper, true, honest. One wants to be viewed as "good" in public but the other really is good.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Yeah i have to admit i do agree with that. Concerning myself, as well as the other deltas I know.
do u mean deltas? or alphas? I'm assuming not gammas as i dont see gammas as upbeat at allbetas are more likely to reject people than betas. but both are pretty upbeat. betas "upbeat" can be kind of depressive though.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Oh.... it's Leger!
Now this is a story all about how, my type got changed, turned upside down. Just wait for a minute and watch chatbox right there, & I'll tell how Gem became the moderator with blue hair.
In typology central friended and praised, on the picture thread was where she spent most her days. Chilling out, selfies, relaxing all cool, And all typing some people and getting them schooled.
When a couple of girls who were up to no good, Started annoying her & her friends in the forumhood, She got in one little flame war & got pissed off & said 'I'm moving in with that exboyfriend in the forum with the socionics toffs.
So Gem pulls up to the forum for a year without being a hater, And yells to typocentral 'Yo creeps! Smell Ya later', Became a mod in her kingdom she was finally there, To sit on her throne as the mod with blue hair.
InvisibruJim
This ^ when i get talkative it just gets old pretty fast and i step out. And if there's cats around i rather play with then than be around ppl
"Precision beats power and timing beats speed"
I do the same shit, but that means jack shit. Rather ESTp seeks intensity, ISTp seeks quite peace.
I like how you give zero examples.
"Precision beats power and timing beats speed"
Because it's obvious.
Intense? SLE does things for stimulation, not just physical sensation but also even emotional intensity even if it's done sloppily, they will get riled up and will try to rile other people up.
While SLI likes physical activities like SLE, but they lack impulsivity, etc.
SLI could physically attack someone, just they would attack someone because that person was disrupting their own peace, not because they actually enjoy fights/conflict.
yeah that's not a great example. SLE is prone to bursts of intensity while sli is more go with the flow.SLE wants to break you while SLI wants to catch you doing something wrong.
"Precision beats power and timing beats speed"
SLI - Carefully applied electrical tape
SLE - Duct tape everywhere until it works just fine
The ISTP is a lot more patient to sit down and understand the machine, whereas the ESTP has to quickly do something fun.
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