I know one of each subtype - my ex was the Te. Aaaaaand... yeah, hit his polr and he turns into a brick wall. This is why his 'relationship' with the ENFj has lasted a grand total oooooofff.. 4 months. lol
I know one of each subtype - my ex was the Te. Aaaaaand... yeah, hit his polr and he turns into a brick wall. This is why his 'relationship' with the ENFj has lasted a grand total oooooofff.. 4 months. lol
Meh!!
I hold a similar opinion about subtypes as Slackermom. Im not even sure what subtype i am with any certianty. There does seem to be something to the theory though as i think ive noticed both subtypes. Actually i would have guessed Jessica is a logcial type and Loki as a Sensory one if anything.
My old friend is a logical subtype. Hes a turbulent dude with a firery temper. When im with him hes quite unpredictable, deciding what he wants to do on a whim. Hes very handy though, knows how to fix shit. He knows little tricks like how to get the car started in the cold etc. I may actually like their emotional turbulence. He rang me the other day and after about 2 minutes was swearing his head off about how his mate only uses him for dope and hes always getting the dope for him. They are almost like a project to me.
Other ISTp i know is the sensory type. He just exudes calmness. His emotions are more stable. Hes also more socially aware and just plain better with people. Him and i never really argue, he will say "BULLSHIT" to me sometimes and we get into a little funny arguement but nothing really. I have the feeling though that if we did get into a spat, that would be it. It could be something to-do with trust levels though. As he has his own group of friends i am on the prerifery. The first ISTp ive been friends with for years and im more ingrained in his life whether we like it or not.
So in all honestly i have no idea which one is best for me. Logical subtypes are harder to deal with, they are a journey with their good points and bad points very polarised. I think i may like that more as im more acutely aware they need my help.
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ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
my opinion is that the subtypes describe quantitative/continuous differences within the same type - so you could be anywhere on the line between the Si subtype and the Te subtype - including right in the middle, in which case you wouldn't be able to choose between the descriptions
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
It's interesting we have two marriages here that also go along with the (Ne ENFP + Si ISTP , and ENFP Fi + ISTP Te)..
BUT I'm confused. I thought that the Fi type would need a type more sensitive to their feelings, and it appears that Si ISTP is slightly more socially concerned than the Te, so wouldn't the ISTP Si match better with the ENFP Fi?
Or is this one of those things where "what you actually need is the opposite of what you think you need"?
Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)
If I had to choose, I think I'd want a Si subtype. My understanding of s is that they're stuffy and traditional. Ugh. Besides, I love Si and exhibit certain Si characteristics. Let him go through the work of making things comfy, and I'll enjoy it immensely.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Stuffy?! On behalf of my brother, I'm incensed. OK, not really. But do you mean this literally - that you think all types with strong Te in their ego block are stuffy and traditional?
Heh. Strong Te. Sometimes I crack myself up. You'll have to know German to see the joke though.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Even my dual doesn't like me.
I can't talk for all ISTps, just for my brother. He can appear stuffy as long as you don't know him and meet him only briefly, at work or in such a setting. It might depend on where he is and who he's with, because if he doesn't feel at ease, or if he's bored, he'll just clam up. If he's generally unhappy, he'll also withdraw into himself. But stuffy? Heck, no.
So it'll have to be: all Te persons bar one are stuffy and traditionalist.
EDITED TO ADD: ...bar two. Sorry, Jessica.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
This subtype description is sounding a little emo-infpish. But it's accurate.
Emo-infp? What do you mean?
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
I think ISTps are too lazy to implement other people's ideas*. I've got to do the legwork, sadly enough. But the ones I know are assets in brainstorming sessions, mainly because they help me cut through the tangle of (conflicting) possibilities.
*At first I thought I'd rephrase that because I don't want to sound offensive, but my husband is reading this as I write, and there was a decidedly self-satisfied laugh, so I'll leave it in.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Perhaps the "emo" is because of the bits about clamming up and withdrawing into oneself? With my brother, it's more a case of:
Send out probe. Intelligent life y/n?
Intelligent life = negative. Surroundings offer no data that is relevant to our projects.
Abort mission. Go on standby mode in order to save energy.
Leave.
Having said that, I'll add that the stereotype about "cold, emotionless" ISTps is a total myth. Perhaps there's a tendency to be rather choosy about what they reveal to whom.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
Well, I can only speak for myself, but I'm quite fond of the Te-subtype ISTps.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
Our weak Fe means we need to feel relaxed and trust the person before we'll open up
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
I think that compatibility among duals has more to do with wether they have things in common or not. If you both like cooking or both want to get (or stay) in shape, if you both like similar types of movies or music or like to hang out in certain places etc. youre going to have more to talk about than two people who are duals but have nothing in common. It also helps to have mutual friends.
Topaz
The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness.
Totally. Our kids owe their existence to Terry Pratchett, Red Dwarf, Dad's Army, Herbert Rosendorfer and the 1998 World Cup.
With ENFps and ISTps - I'm thinking that it might also be important where and how you interact, because we both need to feel relaxed, at ease, and able to open up and goof around. What do you think? If an ENFp and an ISTp meet only in situations that make one of them go into emergency shutdown mode, there's one more potential love story gone down the drain.
EDITED TO ADD: ...duh. Everyone's like that to some extent. But my hunch is that stressed out ISTps and ENFps can clam up very thoroughly.
Last edited by schrödinger's cat; 03-14-2008 at 11:23 AM.
I second Tereg.
Johari/Nohari
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short; shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying."
Fruit, the fluffy kitty.
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You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.