Which bands, songs would you consider to by typical of Gamma?I would say Tool... Anything else that comes to your mind?
Gamma music
Which bands, songs would you consider to by typical of Gamma?
Tool sux ;-)
What is your favorite beer ? An open one
Yeah, I don't like Tool.
I'd say Aphex Twin, System of a Down, and my music (click my sig, listen my tracks under "Proton")
I like heavy metal. Heavy metal must be gamma now.
ILI (Indescribable Lovemaking Inc.)
5w4 so/sx
"IP temperament! Because today's concerns are tomorrow's indifferences!"
Lord Fnorgle's Domain - A slowly growing collection of music, poetry and literature.
Stickam music performances
The most influential band to modern metal Venom is a "gamma-band", what other band is even responsible of creating 3 music genres. Cronos is ESFp and Mantas is most likely INTp.Originally Posted by BLauritson
As seen from this interview, Cronos (on the right) is pretty obvious ESFp, the other guy is Abaddon:
...the human race will disappear. Other races will appear and disappear in turn. The sky will become icy and void, pierced by the feeble light of half-dead stars. Which will also disappear. Everything will disappear. And what human beings do is just as free of sense as the free motion of elementary particles. Good, evil, morality, feelings? Pure 'Victorian fictions'.
INTp
i don't listen to music much.
INTp
sx/sp
heavy metal = SLE = Beta
I talk for myself and a few SEE.
House music, preferable hardstyle / hardcore
But I don't think music is type or quadra related b.t.w.
My music is pretty random. Many of the songs I like (or have liked) merely because they amused me.
I like melodies more then songtext.
I dislike alternative rock, slow rock
Me too but strong lyrics is also important for the songs which really give me energy.
But there have been too many times where the song text is absolutely nonsense and I ever disagree, but I keep listening because the bass is strong and the song gives me energy.
I also hate pop and rap music lyrics where some dude is constantly shouting in my ear about how much he likes some chick's butt or something like that
i also think music isn't type or quadra-related but i'd say hip-hop is gamma talking about hoes, ice, money, drugs, coming from the ghetto, and getting shot
ESFp-Fi sub
6w7 sx/so/sp
But I'm gamma. And I like heavy metal. You make baby gamma cryheavy metal = SLE = Beta. Meanie.
ILI (Indescribable Lovemaking Inc.)
5w4 so/sx
"IP temperament! Because today's concerns are tomorrow's indifferences!"
Lord Fnorgle's Domain - A slowly growing collection of music, poetry and literature.
Stickam music performances
Carnatatham A Sharp Minor with Two Chord Harmony
Does it matter if a piece of music is Gamma or not?
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Just because I'm a thinking type doesn't mean I'm not an idiot.
Maynard is an INFJ; and of the few gammas I've asked about tool, none of them replied they particularly liked them.. they thought it was "alright".. etc. I like a few of their songs, but they aren't my favorite band by a long shot; and some people become particularly obsessed with them.. INTjs I've known especially.
The white stripes is led by an ISFj Jack White. The beatles are all gamma (other then ringo, who doesn't really contribute). Jim Morrison of the doors is ILI. Bob dylan is an ISFj.
Our music is pitch oriented, and rhythm remains irregular and non repetitive. We don't like... beat music, or like... music which centers around the repetition of a particular riff. Easily it becomes bored. Or music in which the climax is a rhythmic perception. Instead, rhythm and pitch are one and must compliment eachother. Delta also likes pitch oriented music.. but rhythmic repetition is fine with them. I think Fi behaves this way- an affinity toward a climax of pitch.
All this according to my subjective perception
one thing i'm curious about -- why is the beatles a gamma band? are they considered "gamma music"? i've heard this at least once from username Cone (with john lennon as ENTj, right?) i find it really odd. i'm currently of the opinion that gamma don't really make music and that gamma bands are hard to find.
i also am not entirely sure i buy maynard j keenan as an INFj, no opinion on the others.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDDnuZAL9ps[/youtube]
reposting the (disturbing!) Te video.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
yes john lennon seriously strikes me as INTp or ENTj.
and i've seen paul typed as ESFp.
True enough, and I definitely agree (I do not know enough about hip-hop to comment, but I feel compelled to talk more about the first part), but the idea that some bands have an overall quality of certain quadras cannot (or rather, should not) be discounted as the members of the band who make the music do have a type, and the music may very well express some part of their essence whether that be individual or collective. And while members of a band may be of different quadras, there is usually at least one and occasionally two central figures who typically are credited for providing the creative direction and song writing of the band. So perhaps the better approach would be to identify the musicians themselves and which information elements are often predominant in their works. For example, the Beatles are typically credited as being a Gamma band. While all types may enjoy the Beatles, John Lennon may have been a LIE, George Harrison an ILI, and Paul McCartney is typed on Ganon's site as being an SEE (and honestly I am not sure how many people care about Ringo's type). And then compare the approaches and type of music produced by another contemporary band from the Golden Age of Rock: The Who. Unlike the more subdued Beatles, The Who gave far more energetic concerts, often interacted with audience, and performed rather non-serious songs. Pete Townshend was most likely an ILE; Keith Moon "the Loon" was probably some sort of Alpha SF; John Entwistle was probably also some variety of Alpha NT; and Roger Daltrey may have been the odd-man out of the Alpha-sphere. In a concert, The Who looked like they were having fun playing a game, whereas the Beatles looked like they were making art.
Just to compare the two bands, here are two different views of the bands: 1) In a music video that shows them recording the song in the studio, and 2) the bands in an actual performance. The reason why I wanted to show the studio and live aspects of the band is because generally speaking, the Beatles were more of a "studio band," while The Who was more of a "live band."
Studio Beatles - Lady Madonna
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=9vf26cRtG_w[/youtube]
Studio The Who - Who Are You
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=l_FZVD5lsAw[/youtube]
Live (on Rooftop): Beatles - Don't Let Me Down
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=-O7PnvVgQvA[/youtube]
Live (Rock 'n' Roll Circus): The Who - A Quick One While He's Away
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=OjkGHn8_Z2c[/youtube]
Both bands cannot be called uncreative (just to throw thatvs.
creative myth out there that Jonathan keeps harping on about), but they generally did so in quite different manners. Also they are obviously both having fun performing or in the studio, but how they conduct that fun contrast fairly sharply.
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Side note: This is such a great (and hot) song, seriously.
Yeah, of course it's ridiculous to say a quadra isn't musical. A lot of pianists are ISFj (me included) and the LIE girl I know is all about music and plays guitar/sings/etc. plus takes on the business and technical side of her art and band and has learned everything about recording and production on her own from the ground up. She takes charge of music in a very LIE way. She also knows more about music history and different artists she admires than anyone I know.
Here's the aforementioned LIE playing music in the studio she built.
playing.jpg
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Unintentional typo.Deliberate? :wink:
Why wouldn't it be all of the above? Though I will say that the creative head of the band, or the one who generally defines the songs themselves, generally impacts the quadraness of the music more than the other members such that it may not necessarily be that most of the members of the band are Beta, if their creative director or guide is Gamma.What does the original poster mean by "Gamma music"? Music that brings to mind? Lyrics that speak about it? Bands that have mostly Gamma members?
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Why would gamma be any less inclined to make music than any other quadra?
ILI (Indescribable Lovemaking Inc.)
5w4 so/sx
"IP temperament! Because today's concerns are tomorrow's indifferences!"
Lord Fnorgle's Domain - A slowly growing collection of music, poetry and literature.
Stickam music performances
this video is moreto me.
i'm not really sure? right now, my only reasonable answer would be inclined to label music as Si Fe, which is obviously pretty narrow. i just think that there's less of a tendency for gamma to want to create music. if the beatles are actually a band composed of nothing but gamma members, then i consider that it would be difficult to find more examples like this. that is, while i personally know a few ILI musicians, i just find it odd to think of a bunch of gammas as getting together and creating music. or a bunch of gammas getting together and doing anything. maybe i'm completely off base here.Why would gamma be any less inclined to make music than any other quadra?
@miss kensington - i don't have any debates on lennon's typing, really. i think he seems "softer" than LIEs are portrayed here quite often. i do adore him, though.
@machintruc - i agree that there's a heavy Ni element in that video, but the focus on productivity and cash flow above all else reminded me of unhealthy versions of Te.
@logos - that live version of "don't let me down" is positively great. nice examples at any rate. i'm curious as to how representative they are of "gamma music" though.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Off the top fo my head -- not many Gammas in pop music. I doubt many have the patience for it.
lead singer of Neon Trees -- ENTj 1.
Enrique Inglesias -- INTp 4w5
lead singer of Mumford and Sons -- ESFp 3
Adam Lambert--ESFp 7w6
Taylor Swift -- ENTj 7w6
Kelly Clarkson -- ISFj
Daughtry -- ENTj 6w7
Michael Buble -- ESFp 2w3
lead singer Lifehouse -- ISFj 4w5
Colbie Caillet -- ESFp 7w6
Kanye West -- ESFp 8
Nikki Minaj -- ISFj 4something.
John Mayor -- ISFj or ESFp 6w7. I'm leaning towards a very odd ISFj 6w7.
Gamma Fi is really easy to pick up on if you can recognize it because all 4 of them pour it on like sugar doesnt have calories. It is far less hard to miss than Delta Fi is, which is more of a subtle undercurrent.
There are more but I cannot recall right now.
What led you to the conclusion that Enrique Iglesias is an INTp?
Isis probably has a few ILIs in it, that or their alpha NTs.
I'm not here to debate. These are my views. Accept them or leave them. Its not up to me whether you do or not.What led you to the conclusion that Enrique Iglesias is an INTp?
Damon Gough, or Badly drawn boy. INTp. kind of melancholic.
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So Im going to go out on a limb and assume you are pretty much guessing when you type people. Nice. Otherwise you would at least be able to tell me how you arrived at your typingsI'm not here to debate. These are my views. Accept them or leave them. Its not up to me whether you do or not.
Incorrect.So Im going to go out on a limb and assume you are pretty much guessing when you type people. Nice. Otherwise you would at least be able to tell me how you arrived at your typings
Didn't someone suggest Led Zeppelin as an example of a Gamma band at one time? I'm no musician, so...I do not know the exact termsbut some of their songs can be long and epic-like, sometimes dream-like in a possibly Gamma type of way (e.g. Stairway to Heaven and Misty Mountain Hop - apparently inspired by Lord of the Rings), while other songs can be long and more bold and brash, like Kashmir...well, I guess Alpha songs can be bold and brash and long too
Ringo is usually said to be a ISFp, and made the incredibly significant contribution of writing the lyrics to Octupus's Garden! (An interesting and possibly useless piece of information is that his son Zak Starkey plays drums for The Who nowadays).
So, Alpha=The Who, Beta=Queen, Gamma=The Beatles, Delta=?
People here determined I think that Mick Jagger is a ENTj (though Keith Richards is a good example of a ISTp IMO).
I agree that system of a down is gamma
I'm lovin this one
ALL THESE AND THE ABOVE WERE TYPED ESI
don't love this but [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xODXZfQCSkU[/video]
(i think i detect a hint of dubstep/don't necesarily love this one but nevertheless)
don't love this one either but w/e
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