yes john lennon seriously strikes me as INTp or ENTj.
and i've seen paul typed as ESFp.
yes john lennon seriously strikes me as INTp or ENTj.
and i've seen paul typed as ESFp.
True enough, and I definitely agree (I do not know enough about hip-hop to comment, but I feel compelled to talk more about the first part), but the idea that some bands have an overall quality of certain quadras cannot (or rather, should not) be discounted as the members of the band who make the music do have a type, and the music may very well express some part of their essence whether that be individual or collective. And while members of a band may be of different quadras, there is usually at least one and occasionally two central figures who typically are credited for providing the creative direction and song writing of the band. So perhaps the better approach would be to identify the musicians themselves and which information elements are often predominant in their works. For example, the Beatles are typically credited as being a Gamma band. While all types may enjoy the Beatles, John Lennon may have been a LIE, George Harrison an ILI, and Paul McCartney is typed on Ganon's site as being an SEE (and honestly I am not sure how many people care about Ringo's type). And then compare the approaches and type of music produced by another contemporary band from the Golden Age of Rock: The Who. Unlike the more subdued Beatles, The Who gave far more energetic concerts, often interacted with audience, and performed rather non-serious songs. Pete Townshend was most likely an ILE; Keith Moon "the Loon" was probably some sort of Alpha SF; John Entwistle was probably also some variety of Alpha NT; and Roger Daltrey may have been the odd-man out of the Alpha-sphere. In a concert, The Who looked like they were having fun playing a game, whereas the Beatles looked like they were making art.Originally Posted by liveandletlive
Just to compare the two bands, here are two different views of the bands: 1) In a music video that shows them recording the song in the studio, and 2) the bands in an actual performance. The reason why I wanted to show the studio and live aspects of the band is because generally speaking, the Beatles were more of a "studio band," while The Who was more of a "live band."
Studio Beatles - Lady Madonna
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=9vf26cRtG_w[/youtube]
Studio The Who - Who Are You
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=l_FZVD5lsAw[/youtube]
Live (on Rooftop): Beatles - Don't Let Me Down
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=-O7PnvVgQvA[/youtube]
Live (Rock 'n' Roll Circus): The Who - A Quick One While He's Away
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=OjkGHn8_Z2c[/youtube]
Both bands cannot be called uncreative (just to throw thatvs.
creative myth out there that Jonathan keeps harping on about), but they generally did so in quite different manners. Also they are obviously both having fun performing or in the studio, but how they conduct that fun contrast fairly sharply.
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Side note: This is such a great (and hot) song, seriously.
Yeah, of course it's ridiculous to say a quadra isn't musical. A lot of pianists are ISFj (me included) and the LIE girl I know is all about music and plays guitar/sings/etc. plus takes on the business and technical side of her art and band and has learned everything about recording and production on her own from the ground up. She takes charge of music in a very LIE way. She also knows more about music history and different artists she admires than anyone I know.
Here's the aforementioned LIE playing music in the studio she built.
playing.jpg
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Unintentional typo.Deliberate? :wink:
Why wouldn't it be all of the above? Though I will say that the creative head of the band, or the one who generally defines the songs themselves, generally impacts the quadraness of the music more than the other members such that it may not necessarily be that most of the members of the band are Beta, if their creative director or guide is Gamma.What does the original poster mean by "Gamma music"? Music that brings to mind? Lyrics that speak about it? Bands that have mostly Gamma members?
Johari Box"Alpha Quadra subforum. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~Obi-Wan Kenobi
Why would gamma be any less inclined to make music than any other quadra?
ILI (Indescribable Lovemaking Inc.)
5w4 so/sx
"IP temperament! Because today's concerns are tomorrow's indifferences!"
Lord Fnorgle's Domain - A slowly growing collection of music, poetry and literature.
Stickam music performances
this video is moreto me.
i'm not really sure? right now, my only reasonable answer would be inclined to label music as Si Fe, which is obviously pretty narrow. i just think that there's less of a tendency for gamma to want to create music. if the beatles are actually a band composed of nothing but gamma members, then i consider that it would be difficult to find more examples like this. that is, while i personally know a few ILI musicians, i just find it odd to think of a bunch of gammas as getting together and creating music. or a bunch of gammas getting together and doing anything. maybe i'm completely off base here.Why would gamma be any less inclined to make music than any other quadra?
@miss kensington - i don't have any debates on lennon's typing, really. i think he seems "softer" than LIEs are portrayed here quite often. i do adore him, though.
@machintruc - i agree that there's a heavy Ni element in that video, but the focus on productivity and cash flow above all else reminded me of unhealthy versions of Te.
@logos - that live version of "don't let me down" is positively great. nice examples at any rate. i'm curious as to how representative they are of "gamma music" though.
6w5 sx
model Φ: -+0
sloan - rcuei
Off the top fo my head -- not many Gammas in pop music. I doubt many have the patience for it.
lead singer of Neon Trees -- ENTj 1.
Enrique Inglesias -- INTp 4w5
lead singer of Mumford and Sons -- ESFp 3
Adam Lambert--ESFp 7w6
Taylor Swift -- ENTj 7w6
Kelly Clarkson -- ISFj
Daughtry -- ENTj 6w7
Michael Buble -- ESFp 2w3
lead singer Lifehouse -- ISFj 4w5
Colbie Caillet -- ESFp 7w6
Kanye West -- ESFp 8
Nikki Minaj -- ISFj 4something.
John Mayor -- ISFj or ESFp 6w7. I'm leaning towards a very odd ISFj 6w7.
Gamma Fi is really easy to pick up on if you can recognize it because all 4 of them pour it on like sugar doesnt have calories. It is far less hard to miss than Delta Fi is, which is more of a subtle undercurrent.
There are more but I cannot recall right now.
What led you to the conclusion that Enrique Iglesias is an INTp?
Isis probably has a few ILIs in it, that or their alpha NTs.
I'm not here to debate. These are my views. Accept them or leave them. Its not up to me whether you do or not.What led you to the conclusion that Enrique Iglesias is an INTp?
Didn't someone suggest Led Zeppelin as an example of a Gamma band at one time? I'm no musician, so...I do not know the exact termsbut some of their songs can be long and epic-like, sometimes dream-like in a possibly Gamma type of way (e.g. Stairway to Heaven and Misty Mountain Hop - apparently inspired by Lord of the Rings), while other songs can be long and more bold and brash, like Kashmir...well, I guess Alpha songs can be bold and brash and long too
- which shows you how rubbish I am at putting forward an argument I wasn't even convinced with to begin with. I do like Led Zeppelin, though they aren't personally my cup of tea (they are just really good).
Ringo is usually said to be a ISFp, and made the incredibly significant contribution of writing the lyrics to Octupus's Garden! (An interesting and possibly useless piece of information is that his son Zak Starkey plays drums for The Who nowadays).
So, Alpha=The Who, Beta=Queen, Gamma=The Beatles, Delta=?
People here determined I think that Mick Jagger is a ENTj (though Keith Richards is a good example of a ISTp IMO).
I agree that system of a down is gamma
I'm lovin this one
ALL THESE AND THE ABOVE WERE TYPED ESI
don't love this but [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xODXZfQCSkU[/video]
(i think i detect a hint of dubstep/don't necesarily love this one but nevertheless)
don't love this one either but w/e
last but strangest in the ESI category:
LIE music thread (these are credited to vicky santel in the facebook gamma duality groups.)
i don't personally think this one qualifies but who am i to judge lol (if not an fi ego then who else)
hmm looks like LIE needs some help in the music department
ILI
;') i wuv zis one
not my favv
yesssssss
This is SEE
some just need omitted like this one (poof nothings here)
next (probably should have omitted this as well)
okay this one is awesome
I actually prefer this one as esi but alas its name is SEE, the reason i don't know (don't care, here it is)
(love)
I'm pretty sure they're alpha. Serj is a clear alpha NT. Daron Malakian is probably ESE if I remember correctly.
their newest music is very gamma. their "hollywood" song is very Ne polr. etc etc. the songs are very gamma. the people themselves are not. and um... "if you remember correctly" so you aren't doing the typing yourself, may not remember, but you're arguing with me?.. uh.. ok.
anyway take a look at the album that the "hollywood" song is on. those songs are all almost exlusively gamma. there is also an EIE in that group. the one wearing eye liner.
"Trying to build a prison" is also Ne polr music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAJi-W9o7uU
please be aware i'm not typing the group. i'm typing this song.
this on the other hand might be something entirely different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VyzYbqRuFE
I'm gonna go with Se lead for sure.
I type the whole album "mezmurize" as gamma. but the album right before might be way to loud for gamma. could be Beta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI2VbHHRyts
SEE music:
IEE Ne Creative Type
Some) I
too...
SEE
the ugliest Barbie that I saw
ESI
Edmund Shklyarskiy - INTP
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