Hillary Clinton

[Jarno]

ga naar bed, het is laat...

haha. ja ach, morgen vrij :-)

[Steve]

She's Ti ISTj. Introverted and Fe seeking. IJ seems to capture her well, and uh she is just not Ne.



duals, Fe ENFj and Ti ISTj:



Static and Se:

[olduser]

i like the young picture of her with bill where she is very poorly groomed. I think IJ for sure, but i consider ILI and LII.

[Park]

duals, Fe ENFj and Ti ISTj:

Those are acceptable typings. Alternatives I've considered are ENFj-ISFj and ENTp-ESFp, partly because of relationship dynamics that make more sense than duality.

[Gilly]

Bill is probably Fe-ESE, IMO.

[Park]

Bill was probably Fe-ESE, IMO.

I've considered ESE before, but......

http://the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=19833

[Gilly]

Interesting. Perhaps Fe-EIE is best. I can relate a lot to what they say about him.

[redbaron]

all I have to say is: she's not SLE.

those are some unattractive images of her. poor dear...

[redbaron]

that's really interesting.

[crazedrat]

I think steve is correct on LSI-Ti

[Rick]

haha. ja ach, morgen vrij :-)

has tu kain vaark zu tun?

[consentingadult]

has tu kain vaark zu tun?

No Rick, it's not German!

[Jarno]

has tu kain vaark zu tun?

ich hab vaark von montag bis dunderstag. immer vreitag vrij.

[1981slater]

On Hillary Clinton:

http://the16types.info/vbulletin/sho...=19833&page=15

[Creepy-Cyclops]

ga naar bed, het is laat...

haha. ja ach, morgen vrij :-)

gu dà tha sibh dithis ag radh?

[consentingadult]

gu dà tha sibh dithis ag radh?

Is that scottisch?

we must have an Allo Allo thread!

[consentingadult]

Is that scottisch?

we must have an Allo Allo thread!

NO PLEASE! NOT ALLO ALLO! I'LL PISS MY PANTS!

[Creepy-Cyclops]

NO PLEASE! NOT ALLO ALLO! I'LL PISS MY PANTS!

Is that scottisch?

we must have an Allo Allo thread!

Is math sin! (which actually is still gaelic, nothing to do with mathemetics though lol)

[1981slater]

The profile on Bill Clinton sounds as if BC has as 6th function, because the writer says he is unable to feel emotions when alone, but he is engaging when surrounded by people.

B.Clinton and Hillary may be conflictors: what she values most is highly unimportant to him...who knows?

[Rick]

It sounds like the writer of the text is a valuer, and probably also a valuer (or at least an intuiter), and views Bill's emotions as fundamentally "phony." These are things I've heard said of leading males -- things like "he has no feelings of his own but just mirrors others' emotions." But the same is rarely said of leading women... At the same time, the author views Clinton's intellect as being of a "smarter," more "creative" variety than Hillary's. Elsewhere, however, Hillary is described as being very sharp, lucid, and having a commanding knowledge of issues.

One has to keep in mind that many men are seen as distant and women as more immediate, compassionate, and real, especially in their emotional expression. Ethical men very often use their ethics to secure territory, and not necessarily to connect with people, care for them, and maintain relationships for relationships' sake.

If their genders weren't known, we might think Hillary was the ethical type and Bill the logical type, but this part makes it clearer that it's the other way around:


"He uses denial of affection as his method of getting people to do what he wants them to do - the ones he's close to - rather than to praise or give affection. It's the strangers he showers everything on -- If he feels that his relationship with you is set, there's nothing to lose -- As he does with her... I believe it's a relationship in which she is -- addicted to him. And she adores him."


In other words, he uses doses of affection to achieve his goals, and she is hooked on that. He showers attention on strangers while often showing indifference to those whose adoration is already secure (sounds like leading , or an ethical extravert). If Hillary were ESI and Bill EIE, according to Expat's hypothesis, it's hard to see why she would be "addicted to him." Presumably, what she would appreciate about him would be the , not the . Yet the things she says about him seem to be along the lines of, "he is the most interesting, energizing and fully alive person I have ever met." That's like a leading type appreciating a leading type in an intimate relationship for his imaginativeness and perceptiveness.

Here Hillary is described as a more compassionate and sincere person than Bill, but elsewhere she's described as "tough as nails," "sharp," "exacting," "uncompromising," etc.

I still maintain that Bill is ESE and Hillary LSI.

[Rick]

One of the many reasons I disagree with EIE for Clinton are the reactions to him I've seen from SLIs (basically, "a really interesting person I'd like to meet"). These same SLIs react negatively to the melodrama of Reagan and to the overbearingness of Hillary.

It's hard to know for sure, though, as these are democrat SLIs. A strongly Republican SLI I know views Clinton as a flake.

[Park]

I still maintain that Bill is ESE and Hillary LSI.

That would be kinda shaky if the writer is ENFp. He clearly sides with Hillary's personality and I think it's mainly on the basis of Fi. And nothing in his description of Bill points towards strong Si or a sensing type. There's even a lack of Se and 'earthiness' pointed out which I hardly believe could be found in any ESE.