Conan O'Brien

[717495]

Actually I agree with Traveler about EPs. They all have plenty of goofs, from Conon O'Brien (ILE) to Craig Ferguson (SEE), but even then it's not the same as Ne-doms who don't even seem like they're trying, who feel that natural and inherent. The reason I say is because it's a very distinct kind of goofiness that is paired with a flightiness, that I relate with and to many egos and could name many. s make use of , there are some slight goofs like SEI Mitch Hedberg, but you don't really see it so vividly but when done by IxEs. And of course I don't think you see as many silly people in any other type, esp. Ni/Se quadras.

[Suz]

Conan is actually my least favorite comedian on TV.

I could totally see Fi-POLR/Fe-HA for him. So yeah ILE works.

[MisterNi]

He seems rather IEE. His humor is Fi based and he moves around in an Si kinesthetic way.

[Marie84]

He's LIE IMO, I'm pretty sure of this from watching his interview with Charlie Rose online a while back. His natural persona is quite dry and serious, and he's admitted that the character he displays on his show is just that

"I've always been a really hardworker, I come across as this happy-go-lucky...I'm an extremely hard worker, and I'm very intense. And up until than everything that I achieved in life had been back-breakingly hard for me. I felt like it had taken a huge effort to get good greats and write a great paper and to do well, it had all been a lot of effort"

He also has this whole "self deprecating guy" routine on his show and I think it's his way of covering up the weak Fe to make it more comical

[717495]

He's not really dry or serious like serious Te/Fi quadra IMO, he plays around with his emotions much more, as though he 'shares' them with whichever group of people apprehended, in thine sequence yielding of extroverted ethics (to be completely literal with the term so there's no confusion. extroversion in the Jungian/Socionics sense.) But I can see from interviews some trace of what you're talking about, in that he's a logical type and will be an attempt at fluently logical, dry, over emotional flavor. I notice this with ILEs just as much as any T. The major problem I see is his adherence to the external emotional factor, one is not only apparent but in some vivid demonstration of traces of establishment perceived by the subject, where no LIE would even think of it. But 'external emotional factor' is such a vague set of words, yet a vivid term, so where's the compromise? It lies within the examples of types.

[Suz]

He seems rather IEE. His humor is Fi based and he moves around in an Si kinesthetic way.

whats his name, the guy on after Leno on NBC these days is IEE. Ellen Degeneres is IEE. Conan's humor and demeanor are markedly different.

EDIT: Jimmy Fallon is the guy I was referring to after Leno.

[MisterNi]

He seems rather IEE. His humor is Fi based and he moves around in an Si kinesthetic way.

whats his name, the guy on after Leno on NBC these days is IEE. Ellen Degeneres is IEE. Conan's humor and demeanor are markedly different.

EDIT: Jimmy Fallon is the guy I was referring to after Leno.

I always typed Jimmy Fallon as SLE or SEE and Ellen Degeneres as LIE or ILE. It's hard to type TV personalities without knowing them very well as often times they're putting on an act for the camera. Jimmy Carson was pretty well known for being polar opposites on camera and in his personal life.

[Suz]

whats his name, the guy on after Leno on NBC these days is IEE. Ellen Degeneres is IEE. Conan's humor and demeanor are markedly different.

EDIT: Jimmy Fallon is the guy I was referring to after Leno.

I always typed Jimmy Fallon as SLE or SEE and Ellen Degeneres as LIE or ILE. It's hard to type TV personalities without knowing them very well as often times they're putting on an act for the camera. Jimmy Carson was pretty well known for being polar opposites on camera and in his personal life.

Ellen Degeneres is very sensitive to Fi though and very adept with it. I've watched her show many times and she's goofy and fun but none of her jokes ever transgress Fi. I noticed the same with Jimmy Fallon. They can't be Fi-POLR.

People's information processing does come through in everything they do, including act and tell jokes and host shows.

Craig Ferguson is SEE. Jimmy Fallon is a lot softer, less edgy. As a side comment, note that Craig Ferguson also is careful with considering Fi. He does sometimes make jokes that MIGHT hurt people's feelings, but he unfailingly manages to smooth it over and take it back.

Not Conan. The meaner, grosser, and stupider the joke, the funnier he thinks he is. That's Fe-HA.

[MisterNi]

Ellen Degeneres is very sensitive to Fi though and very adept with it. I've watched her show many times and she's goofy and fun but none of her jokes ever transgress Fi. I noticed the same with Jimmy Fallon. They can't be Fi-POLR.

This is truly terrible reasoning. She can't be Fi-PoLR because she's not Fi-awkward? How about this? She's a well-adjusted 50+ woman so she doesn't have to worry about her PoLR so she's not offensive to Fi. People do learn how to cover their weak spots as they grow older so none of what you've written negates that.

People's information processing does come through in everything they do, including act and tell jokes and host shows.

Really? So are you trying to say that multi-dimensional actors are typeless then?

Craig Ferguson is SEE. Jimmy Fallon is a lot softer, less edgy. As a side comment, note that Craig Ferguson also is careful with considering Fi. He does sometimes make jokes that MIGHT hurt people's feelings, but he unfailingly manages to smooth it over and take it back.

That would point more toward Fe-ego actually. Fi egos would be more moralistic or fatalistic (self-effacing) after making a social gaff. Assuming they don't have an Ni or Si ego to bail them out.

Not Conan. The meaner, grosser, and stupider the joke, the funnier he thinks he is. That's Fe-HA.

Wrong again! What the heck?? None of what you've written is Fe-HA. Not only that, you're horribly insulting. Lets keep things civil here.

So if you watch Conan's interviews and the types of people he invites to his show, you'll notice he gets along with Fi-valuers very well and struggles with Fe-valuers. You seem to be typing him solely on his comedy sketches which is an absurd way to type a show host.

[Gilly]

I still think the EJ temperament fits better than EP. Just sayin'

With you on this one...he seems rational. Maybe even LII but not ILE.