Let's huddle up and watch a list of those shows one day. With cocoa and biscuits and we'll cook some warm food if you're hungry. Kitty can watch with us too (:
Let's huddle up and watch a list of those shows one day. With cocoa and biscuits and we'll cook some warm food if you're hungry. Kitty can watch with us too (:
She is wiseWhy I love LSEs:
beyond words
beautiful within
her soul
brighter than
the sun
lovelier than
love
dreams larger
than life
and does not
understand the
meaning of no.
Because everything
through her, and in her, is
"Yes, it will be done."
Originally Posted by Abbie
Get out.
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I saw this Indian movie recently, Udaan. The main character is an EII-Ne, and his father a hardcore LSI (complete with a mustache!) and it deals with their struggle to get along with one another. Showed it to IEE friend who loved it as well. I officially claim this movie Delta.
I indian movies!!
Havent seen one in a while just because i'd seen all the good ones up to like 2 years ago, so thanks for the recommendation, will have to check it out.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Oh don't be jealous. You'll find your hot sexy LSE girl to cook you stewed beef with beer one day.Originally Posted by jealous EII
She is wiseWhy I love LSEs:
beyond words
beautiful within
her soul
brighter than
the sun
lovelier than
love
dreams larger
than life
and does not
understand the
meaning of no.
Because everything
through her, and in her, is
"Yes, it will be done."
Originally Posted by Abbie
have you ever tried garlic naan dipped in butter curry chicken? It's godly parker, you and I must eat the streets of singapore some day.
She is wiseWhy I love LSEs:
beyond words
beautiful within
her soul
brighter than
the sun
lovelier than
love
dreams larger
than life
and does not
understand the
meaning of no.
Because everything
through her, and in her, is
"Yes, it will be done."
Originally Posted by Abbie
You could catch Aladin (2009). I watched it on the plane once and I found it rather entertaining even though I don't have a strong interest in Bollywood movies.
awesome, will add that to my list as well. Thanks, Eunice!
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
The Godfather?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
The next three days seem very Deltish to me. The main male character is delta ST, whereas his wife is probably delta NF or ISFp. Anyway, a very good film
Jim Carrey, playing a different kind of role, is one of the reasons why I liked that movie so much. I see that as Ne-valuing, when somebody chooses an actor who has always been typecast a particular way, as a goofy character, and they look at his potential and they say, 'He has the potential to play a serious role.' And they tried it, and it worked. It was like he was undervalued and underappreciated and underutilized before, until somebody saw his potential. So that was a big deal to me whenever that happened. I never watched the silly comedies that he had been in before that. And in the Truman Show, he still had some of that silly fakeness, except it was integrated into his character in a way that seemed realistic and believable, like a real person might act that way, and it came off as making him seem like sort of a phobic person trying to find his courage. It was the idea of accepting all of yourself, including the goofiness, and being who you are. And then he became a successful hero character instead of a ridiculous character, that was the best.
I always like movies that have the theme of some kind of world that traps you, and you have to break free from it. Several of my favorite movies have this theme in common. I mentioned it to my brother (SLI/SEI) and he agreed with me, he loves those types of movies too. The Matrix: you're trapped in a fake world and you have to go find reality somehow. Truman Show: fake world again, you have to escape from it. Shawshank Redemption (I think I forgot to mention that one?) - trapped in prison, you're innocent, you're going to die in there, you've got to escape, and you do. Polar Bear King (the esoteric movie that no one else on earth has ever heard of except me): not really an 'escape' per se, but, getting out of a place where she doesn't want to live; and then, later on, helping people escape from the castle. What Dreams May Come: trapped in hell, trapped in a world made by her own misery and suffering, unable to fix anything, unable to escape, and a successful escape at the end. Titanic: at least one character escapes, but not the other one.
Harry Potter: not really an 'escape' theme, except, yeah, there is - he escapes from being trapped in the Muggle world with the relatives he hates. And again, he is innocent and undeserving of suffering. The boring, meaningless Muggle world where nobody understands him. He escapes from that reality into the wizarding world, where he meets a large group of people in a comforting environment, where he learns the secrets that have been behind his muggle reality all along, where he finds friends and people who understand him, where he finds an important mission he needs to accomplish. So it was an escape from a boring, meaningless, unfulfilling life surrounded by people who didn't understand.
It's not just themes of escape. The people escaping have to be good, innocent people who I can relate to, people who I feel don't deserve to be trapped. If I can't stand the character, if I have no respect for them, then I don't care if they escape.
For instance I wouldn't be interested in a movie about a bunch of people who *really were* criminals, trapped in jail trying to escape. I recently watched 'Fast Five,' sort of by accident, because I didn't know what it was, and I didn't know it was actually a sequel to 'The Fast and the Furious.' That was a movie about criminals trying to commit more crime, basically, and you were supposed to cheer them on. Surprisingly, I somewhat got into the movie and found it entertaining, but I would never want to watch it again, and the best movies are the ones that I can watch 50 times and never get sick of. It was not at all inspiring. Sort of sickening.
I've actually noticed the recurring 'escape theme' in all my favorite movies for over a decade now - I remember having the conversation with my brother, probably after we watched 'The Matrix' together.
Anything with Judi Dench. That actress turns everything around her Delta.
And then, I have a couple favorite books with that theme too.
Watership Down
How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
Your Money Or Your Life
Atlas Shrugged
Those are the first four examples off the top of my head. I'm starting to think this might be Ne again - breaking out of one way of seeing things, and jumping to a totally different way.
Watership Down: a book about rabbits who have to travel away from one place and find a better place to live. Several parts of the book have escape themes. I also feel like there was Si-valuing in this book. They were looking for a safe, healthy, comfortable home where they could start their own rabbit colony.
Freedom in an Unfree World: Nonfiction, by Harry Browne. I haven't read this book in a long time, but it was a book about breaking free from limiting beliefs that prevented you from being free. He said that you don't have to wait for the rest of the world to give you your freedom, but you have to do what's necessary to get it yourself.
Your Money Or Your Life: Dad gave this book to me and my brother. It's about breaking free from job slavery, basically. (This feels like a Si/Te-valuing book.) You don't want to waste all your energy working and exhausting yourself, you don't want to waste all your time. You want to have free time to do the things you really care about. You find ways to hugely, drastically reduce your expenses, and you find ways to get a passive income, and the goal is to not have to work, or at least, to only have to work a little bit.
However, he recommends buying T-bills as the way of earning passive income, and I no longer trust any form of electronic or paper investment whatsoever, and I don't have any recommendations for how to safely earn interest on large amounts of saved money, and instead I recommend for people to buy physical gold and silver coins, and just give up on the idea of earning interest - don't try to 'make a profit' on the coins - just stop thinking in terms of 'profit' whenever you buy gold and silver - don't think of profit in terms of dollars. Just keep the physical coins and ignore the ups and downs of the price of gold and silver - don't be disappointed if the price goes down - you haven't 'lost' anything.
(If I ever have a large amount of money to make decisions about, I will do more research to decide which interest-earning methods are more or less risky. People really do want to earn some kind of interest and they don't want to just keep a bunch of gold and silver coins sitting around, because they don't see this the way I do.)
I haven't read Atlas Shrugged in years, however, at the time when I read it, in my early twenties, it was the most exciting book I had ever read. I felt like I wanted to break free from all of society because of that book. I gradually sort of wandered away from Objectivism because it didn't have enough information about the things that I needed to know - I needed to know how to make myself healthy, for instance, because I've suffered from a variety of health problems, and Objectivism had no advice or knowledge about that, and neither did Nathaniel Branden. But even so, Objectivism formed the background of all my basic beliefs about the system of government. And I feel like it broke me free from my ignorance about how the government works and what it does to the economy. So it was a liberating book as well.
Anyway, more books with the theme of breaking free from a limiting situation.
Some people have suggested this as a Beta film, which seems kind of strange because I can't find any conceivable reason how this movie reflects Ni/Se values. It's been a while since I saw it so I probably can't type all the characters, but Johnny Depp plays some sort of NF type, Ne-IEE most likely.
SLI - IEE duality. Best film ever.
Omg! My old IEE best friend was reading that book (Bridge To Terabithia) and I never read it, I just remember seeing the book lying around on her tables and stuff when I went to her house. That's awesome, I didn't know they made a movie. I'll watch it if I get the chance.
"Perfume: The story of a murderer"
"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.".
I'm not sure if Bridge to Terabithia is about IEE and SLI or ILE and SEI Anyway, I also loved this film soo much...
I was just going through my list of Netflix movies that I've given 5 stars, because maybe I have a bias for Delta movies. The Fisher King and Sling Blade stood out to me as having Delta themes, but I haven't thought about the types of the characters.
Uh-oh, I'll keep that in mind. I'll probably still like the movie - I like to cry when I watch movies sometimes, but it sort of depends on the reason why I'm crying.
I just watched 'Dream House' a few days ago. I wouldn't call it delta, I think it's more like gamma. It was very Fi-valuing though, very serious and relationship-oriented. It has a sad ending and I felt this kind of traumatized, cathartic feeling, which I don't really enjoy, but some people do. Throughout the whole movie there is the theme of relationship ethics.
I don't know if this was said before, but the Fahrenheit 451 (1966) appears to be very delta to me. The two main characters seem to be duals, Guy Montag as ISTp and Clarisse (his neighbor) as ENFp. Montag's wife is probably SEI.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Speaking of old movies, how about this one?
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
I like any movie with a similar vibe to this, also any Tim Burton movie ever made(not sure if this is delta or not):
Just saw the new Muppet movie last night, guess it counts as Delta. Lots of good, stupid fun for the whole family, and cameos galore (I was probably the only person who noticed Feist's appearance). Very much a social-stacking oriented flick too.
LSE:
Good Fellas
Historical Dramas
JFK -it's about accumulation of facts
EII:
Terms of Endearment
All Christmas Family movies
Anything with love and relationships
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I dont want to be EII anymore. I should choose another type on wikisocion and learn it.EII:
Terms of Endearment
All Christmas Family movies
Anything with love and relationships
I think grand torino is Delta, as well as 99 francs.
What about........ Star wars ? I asked myself often if delta or alpha... Universal good and bad play a big role, relationship play a big role, and even if overall impression is alpha, the luke/leia/hans solo personnage arent really alpha.
Perhaps matrix too, but its more unlikely. It seem more balanced toward beta, gamma, and delta things
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"The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."
-- Maurice Chapelain
ANY movie with love and relationships is EII? Holy cow. I don't even know how to respond to that.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
This is the only type able to experience this, this for that
"The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."
-- Maurice Chapelain
Mozart's Sister (aka Nannerl, la soeur de Mozart)
My GF (SEI) didn't like it, because 'it has no emotions'. I think Deltas would disagree.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
usually those weird european films try to capture the restraint and formality in the ethics of such an era but they try to make up for it by generous doses of raw ,random humping ,ne c'est pas?