German youtuber and Mr. Beast. Look very much alike. I think both are IEI. I generally now think that the otherwhelming majority of people who upload videos of themselves on youtube are IEI. It's the only type that finds this concept interesting. Exceptions are other NF and LIE who sometimes upload too. >90% of youtubers are IEI, EIE or LIE
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You gotta give more for Mr. Beast being IEI than that he looks like the german youtuber and uploads videos of themselves on youtube lmao
I think he has Ni, but would be an EIE before an IEI.
This monkey probably the most famous SLE in east and southeast Asia... SLE - C
i think she is EIE
reminds me of @Braingel
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Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ-ufXGlvw4&t=1425s Ana de armas she seems very fe to me and EIE, she says little ni things
and how she talks about how she would overwork herself, maybe si polr
Kelly Stamps is a logical type
MrBeast - possibly
FB_Marketing - not sure he's ethical, I was thinking LII
Joey's Jungle - possibly
IEI?
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
Victoria Pedretti - mb
ILE not excluded
Beta ST
Tristan Paine - Fe valuing intuitive, excluding LII
yeah thinking the same. probably another IEI
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SLE
she talks like joe rogan. u can imagine someone's talking as if someone else talking it then u can tell if it fits or not
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Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
Jessica Kent is intuitive
beta NF
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
IEI
I need a normalizing subtype to catalogue pictures of all these youtubers because they all have the same type. We would have a VI gallery in no time. maybe I'm just gonna do that anyway while I'm at work.
like wengie looks somewhat like this girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knv0_sYJFlI
who then looks like this girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQTk4eK2fP4
who looks a little this person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-yA_0H3fJo
who looks like this girl
https://youtu.be/6dGbn2MOEX8
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IDK about all those girls (I'm of a different opinion about at least one of them), but getting the aura of a person that reminds you of another might be good exercise to learn to take in what people 'look' like. Like, if you take those women on one side, and then this woman typed SLE-N by Gulenko and this SLE male that I found, if you spend some honest moments watching and listening you must admit that the SLE woman vibes the same frequency as the man in informality, expression, etc rather than with the other women. But you need to be curious.
Oh wait, you can't read me. Whatever.
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HasanAbi mb EIE
Squidinkidin mb EIE
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I'll certainly be getting some Ye merch this year, and I don't even know his music lol.
If I'm not answering you, I'm either procrastinating a response, or I've judged the conversation as fruitless/already settled prior to the debate for me.
Plausible types; INxP>INxj>ENxp>ENxj
another person that fits into this VI category
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why Messi has Intuition of Time
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b6qBbLxP53s
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Squidinkidink - closer to P
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Hey, leave her alone. I go with EIE for her based on videos like these. Whatever
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0naufoV07cs
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HasanAbi again but this time with a mb LSI sitting next to him the first 21:30 min of the video
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Hasan is a fantastic example of an EIE - so much so that while being completely unaware of Socionics theory (as far as I know about him), like the IEI, he can view and attach to the universal archetypes of the sociotypes. He essentially has described a core aspect of SLE cognition (Se base floating over the Te demonstrative realm, pointing out particular instances of contradictions (3D Ti) but being unaware that there is a common source (1D Ni) of these disparate contradictions that provides a more comprehensive and useful understanding of what to do about solving them). Watch the next two minutes of this video:
https://youtu.be/CQqaY-ujcqk?t=808
This is because Hasan is aware of the conceptual frameworks of dialectical materialism, which supply him with the concept of 'contradiction' as a fundamental building-block of reality. Sociotypes are also differentiated based on which contradictions they perceive and how they respond to them, so he has in essence approached Socionics without having been familiar with it as an existing framework (again, maybe... he may know of it). I think he doesn't know of it, because if he did, he would be better able to communicate the location of the error to his audience (and do so in a way that better humanizes the SLEs he talks about in this video; Alex Jones and Dr. Umar.)
I agree with EIE for Squidinkdink, probably something like EIE-C
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Seems Ni base and not Fe base to me
https://youtube.com/shorts/BCWOw6AbcIA?feature=share
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too annoying to be ILI
I think she's an insufferable IEI. ILI don't really upload videos to an unknown mass audience with Fe PolR. The only channel I could see them in is something technical about programming with very few subscribers not showing their face
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Based on impression of women like her, Squidinkdink seems like the type of gal that would include some type of ‘managerial’ element in her pastimes plus the need for a constant audience and interaction. Generally speaking, inclination towards EJ temperament more than IP.
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Coffeezilla is an IEI
when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me.
I don't really fly anymore, haven't for years. I travel by train. 40 % of CO2 emissions are caused by building and maintaining buildings by the way, but whatever, I don't think it's intellectually stimulating to discuss with you.
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Using wood products and wood building materials, for mid sized sky scrapers has less carbon impact than concrete and steel production. Wood buildings are carbon sinks and wood can be regrown.
I don't really see any kind of extroverted temperament in MrBeast, as he has the same neutral, unexcited facial expressions in every video. Don't think he is ExxJ, let alone EIE. typing Alex Jones as logical type seems absolutely bizarre
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So cognitive extroverts can't have regular, unexcited facial expressions (especially the rational cognitive extroverts like the LIE and the EIE)? Where are you pulling this from? Why is Alex Jones being SLE bizarre?
Extroverted ethical types are by far the most sociable, talkative and expressive types, in the sense that they talk like a waterfall in social settings. That's why their ideal partners are introvdrted logical types, who barely talk at all. MrBeast on ghe other hand is not that talkative and very unexpressive, with rather monotone facial expressions (at least from what I have seen). Alex Jones shares wild conspiracies without any kind of factual basis while he emotionally tries to influence others through lies and manipulation.
https://youtu.be/KGAAhzreGWw
He is prone to impersonating others and ridiculing them, and this is Ni (acting, imagining to be someone) and Fe to me
https://youtu.be/tDA5IVCLyQk
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Whether or not someone agrees with my comment about IEI and youtube is dependent on how we define the types, because although many youtube channels present mediocre content, the desire to upload videos about yourself is quite a novel concept that comes with a desire to present yourself. I personally define sensing types as pragmatic and practical, but ultimatively unimaginitive, so not the kind of people that search for new topics to make videos about. A lot of people here think that sensing types are also creative artists and have a lot of imagination too, but I can't say that I share these observations at all.
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I know you were commenting about IEIs and Youtube, and I have a beef with your overall take, but regardless to you Ni is more than that, right?
Because you've also said, in other terms, that Ni is behind a person's dreams of grandiosity and the willpower to accomplish their goal, their thirst for glory, their drive into their future, their projection of what they imagine for themselves.
Having read the following compilation on SLEs and knowing that Dominant subtype tends to be the brightest representation of the type + higher drive, work performance and social dominance, what is a somewhat good description of SLE-D subtype according to you?
Filatova: Decisively they manifest their interest in work and are not tormented or distracted by pangs in their consciousness, even if, for the achievement of their goals, they must pinch, punish or offend someone (...) Wonderfully understand how best to organize work and the inability of others to act on such an optimal level. Thus the SLE will take upon themselves, not only their own responsibilities, but also the affairs of the surrounding people, to which SLE relates with sympathy and respect
Strati: Even if Zhukov works in a department as a regular employee, setting “higher” goals ahead of him/herself, the SLE can in a short period of time subordinate the management (which sometimes works out better for him than heading the department himself). The ESTp is distinguished by an exceptional capacity for work anddrive, which grows proportionally to the number of obstacles that he or she faces. Uses every opportunity to show his volitional qualities: determination, perseverance, steadfastness, showing himself in the light of a strict but fair leader. (...) He likes to discuss discipline, the need to develop a strong-willed and determined character. Representatives of this type willingly and gladly learn their entire lives - they do so continually and everywhere.They approach any undertaking with thoroughness, gather and analyze all of the relevant information, improve their level of qualification. (...) ESTp tries to accomplish the maximum amount of work in a single unit of time, which goes without saying leads to an overload, excessive stain and stress (...) The ESTp likes and knows how to work.
After the ESTp outlines a goal for himself, he never moves straight towards it
Bukalov: People of this type are well see strong-willed qualities of others and themselves have a well-developed willpower, the ability to achieve their goal.
Socionics.ua: The manifestations of nature in their professional activity Well-versed in the world of material things. Purposefully solve practical problems, it overcomes difficulties, and adheres to the scheduled plan, trying to do everything on their own. Committed to their work, organizations and society know what are the obligations and will not shy away from them, even if it takes a lot of sacrifice. (...) A sober realist. Inherent passion, high capacity for work. It needs vigorous activity.
Golihov: man of action, act. Inclined to force the philosophy of chanting, independent coping, victory at all costs, “could bear to fill up - a man.” And, always sure that everything here depends only on himself, his strength, capabilities. Hence - the extremely irritating when realizing that it was not possible to achieve the goal. Very susceptible to social recognition: HONOR, GLORY, respect, letters, insignia, etc.Work can not rest, have a “bouquet” neglected diseases, but absolutely not to attach any importance to this.
Zamanskaya: In achieving a goal the ESTp shows flexibility, tenacity, high pace, and energy. The ESTp has a high capacity for work. If life is dull, monotonous, lacking in momentous problems and promising long-term goals, the ESTp begins to mope around, to see future in dark colors, to feel and act like a complete wreck, but as soon as a goal appears, he quickly mobilizes, and becomes cheerful, energetic, and determined once again. (...) The SLE truly knows how to work: he is responsible and conscientious, tries to meet deadlines at any cost, for which reason the passivity and irresponsibility of some people are incomprehensible to him. Always strives for the highest achievements himself and to competitive advantages.Due to inherent competitiveness of ESTps they often work until exhaustion, until they wear themselves out, not allowing themselves to truly relax, and not thinking of the consequences such lifestyle can have on their health.
Socioscope: Zhukov believes that if people really want something, they will always attain it. He aims for the large purposes, not exchanging on the trifles. He does not believe in luck – all comes to the one who persistently strives for her (...). He is characterized by great fitness for work. He is thorough. the situation | circumstances is really not to his favour, may refuse to quit and switch to a new, even more important objective. His thoroughness in the daily routine of life, in work or education – bridge to the FUTURE. Developed force of will. Directivity to reaching of eventual result
high quest for glory
interest in 'being on top' and get recognition
self-demanding
works till exhaustion, everyone else is an undisciplined weakling
through and rigorous
sets long-term goals, challenges and objectives in their vision of their desired future of glory and honor.
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My current boss is an SLE-D. He mainly just lets me work the way I want and leaves me alone. He's just a regular guy that tries to do a pragmatic job well and he definitely doesn't care that much about 'social recognition'. Doesn't say a lot about his life like all logical types.
"high quest for glory, interest in 'being on top' and get recognition, sets long-term goals, challenges and objectives in their vision of their desired future of glory and honor."
All of this sounds like naive, intuitive idealism to me. An intuitive imagining that SLE are like this. The only thing that seems correct is "self-demanding, works till exhaustion, everyone else is an undisciplined weakling". Sensing types are not idealists that want to become famous so everyone knows them. They just want a high status in their immediate surrounding, like being a high payed policeman or soldier. They are not the kind of people to become actors or create youtube videos (which barely makes money unless you have a lot of subscribers by the way). Implying that youtuber are sensing types would mean that they are fine working for no pragmatic benefit until they reach hundreds of thousands of subscribers, a number only a small proportion of youtuber reach, which is simply not what sensing types do. Sensing types don't do things without a guaranteed, immediate pragmatic benefit according to theory
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I've also worked with SLEs with Dominant either as first subtype or second subtype if you go by complex subtype theory. They're rather quiet about their personal life, that's correct for some of them, but they're hard-working overachiever, at least one of them. Finished his career on time, was ambitious enough to spend long hours studying and he now writes in the sports section of a popular newspaper down where I live and he is probably among the youngest members of the section. You know how he did it, how he got ahead? He practiced a particular skill which implied LONE hours of study and dedication. Things like ‘lonely’ practice ergo: introvert and Ni is senseless without a full picture of the type. I dined with an ESE several times over the last months. She spent several hours ALONE in her kitchen cooking for the whole group. Effing cliché ESEs spend hours alone at home in their kitchen preparing plates to present to their Chef trainer at the cooking academy and get top grades. If I were to hang onto flimsy notions of introversion, there's no way they're an extrovert because what they like, her product, involved some hours of solitude and showed some degree of ambition. I know better.
Ironic. Because it's all taken from several authors from Socionics who, first and foremost, kind of agree on what Se implies and, secondly, wrote similarly of what Se constitutes and that's what I recovered, just because the written has more occurrences in the several profiles of SLEs than in IEIs. What do you want me to do about it? They just did not ascribe that to Ni. It's not them who's naively idealizing; it's you. That being said, it's ok if you disagree with them (you also disagree with Gulenko about EIE, so that's 2 types you think he got wrong, already). It's just kind of not theory Socionics.
Your idealism of Ni and how freely you can use it gets you to the point where it bears no meaning anymore. Anyone can type like you. You said you liked Evangelion or you watched it, right, and typed Shinji at some point in the corresponding thread? Why bother only with him? Let's see if I can do what you do…
Shinji is IEI because he's a softie like IEIs…
But so is Asuka because she wants to be the best, so glory-focused and is hard as a rock because that's the image she projected of herself: IEI
Misato projected her objective into the future to get to the top at Nerv: IEI!
Gendo, a loner who looked into the future into an idealized and dedicated his whole life to a version sprung from his mind of what meeting Yui again would be like: IEI.
Yui planned for the future of humanity with optimism and was a scientist: IEI, of course.
Kensuke played soldier, he personified a character, big imagination, and wanted so bad to fulfill his ambition and become a pilot: IEI.
Kaji wrote poetry: IEI, what else.
Rei reads about genetics and science and philosophizes: IEI.
Fuyutsuki did what he did because of his idealization of Yui and was a pioneer in his field: IEI, I mean, come on!
Kaworu was a mystical fucker that pondered fate: IEI.
Maya was a quiet computer nerd that lost herself in romantic novels: IEI
Ritsuko was a scientist, romantic and a loner who spent years dedicated to the same area of study: IEI
Lorentz had an over-idealized plan for the whole of humanity and got involved in mysticism: IEI.
All of Seele, for the same reason: IEI.
Instead of saying that yes, they're all the same you should go beyond and, after stopping at seeing it in such a graphic way, ask yourself if Misato, the portrait of a noisy, bossy woman who is irremediably courageous and hits people she considers too weak and has leader qualities is of the same type as the main character because she...set up a plan. That's just lazy. The fact that you have to reduce several decades of observations by quite a number of people who later published to 'intuitive idealism' just screams easy way out. BTW, can we type Trump IEI now that you have declared leftism is passé for the type and they can be conservative capitalists? Let's do it: fierce, patriotic idealist, had the passion to get involved in politics instead of enjoying his dad's millions. You know it's only a matter of time before you make him a fine addition to your IEI gallery.
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