Miles Davis - IEI
Miles Davis - IEI
Kevin Parker (Tame Impala) - IEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkT6slu6cOc
it's interesting how it's clearly visible within the first few minutes of the interview that he's an NiFe type, and at 8:57 he shows suggestive Se. I think the woman who interviews him is an LIE.
favorite song from his new album:
>makes an album centered around the theme and concept of time
>is supposed to be an SEI with Ni as role function
>constantly talks about being an introvert and writes songs about preferring to be alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F2e9fmYL7Y
>his band is basically just him doing all the work alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMt7oyHP6iw
>is supposed to be an extrovert
it's really hard to not get a headache with most typings on this website...
Sure. He's nothing like an SLE.
If you need to refresh your definition of the type, re-read "Aristocratic" "Negativist" sections, which encompass both SLE and LSE as per their description of being quasi-identicals. The profiling you did below doesn't sound like anything belonging to those types.
Quoting this for posterity on a set of traits on how to not identify an SLE.
It's also easily checked by VI, so let's proceed to that part.
Let's take a look at your VI claims which so far do seem to be bogus.
Really now?My SLE friend acts and looks exactly like this guy. He's also recognized by majority as 'ESTP, 7w8' on [/COLOR]https://www.personality-database.com/[COLOR=#000000] (not that this has a definitive correspondence). I have trouble seeing why he'd be "nothing" like one.
Because your Machine Gun Kelly boy looks nothing like this SLE-Se composite. Compare this to his pics. It's nowhere near the same look.
He looks like an introverted ethical type and that description of him you posted really belongs in some IxFx males thread.
Would also like to hear about this majority, as in your quote "recognized by majority" that has identified your friend as supposedly an SLE. Who are they, give some names, their years of involvement in socionics and expertise, etc. etc. so that it doesn't sound like you're trying to cover up your typing by making off-hand references.
By met you surely meant "mistyped", as in "I've mistyped several people into SLEs, who don't even sound or look anything like them, now fite me and my mistypings!!1!".This is not my kindred and I've met several SLE who match most of this criteria[/B], if not all of it.
If you're averse to VI, and this guy is adamantly VIing like ESI-Se and has that prickly expression of a Gamma rational type, then go by your own characterizations but simply differentiate unhealthy behavior in ego functions vs. unhealthy behavior in subconscious functions. This characteristic here -> "Candid about sex life and bad things he does, reveling in them" implies that he isn't of a type with weak ethical functions and certainly doesn't have ethics as his polr, as he's able to justify and assert himself publicly in what he does. With SLEs and LSEs, and 1D Fi types in general, it's a case of clueless stumbling around Fi/Fe and transgressing because they didn't know any better, because they "don't get it" since those functions are their subconscious ones, and then if they happen to commit something hugely unethical they will frantically try to sweep things under the carpet (negativists) or diffuse the situation and shift attention (positivists). The interview where he's casually shrugging it off would imply that ethical IEs aren't in the weak functions.
ENFj
your typings are really weird to me timber I often don't really know how to react to them.
Bald guy with beard SLE.
What? This guy is SLE come on. Not not because he's "masculine" because he's just SLE.
He even says "There are no rules in the relationship" throwing out the idea of traditional gender roles in relationships which I don't think is common for LSE especially LSE men. But the "no rules" is more common for SLE. He even uses Fe to help the asian dude when he says "You're a man!" in a slightly exaggerated tone to help the guy feel good about himself. He also briefly mentions how it's important to have self discipline which seems to be common for Ni suggestives to see that highly. On top of his Fe expressive face which is also SLE of him.
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I guess a SLE would make a video of a male group therapy session to ask themselves if they meet their father's expectations of them as men. Asking themselves how they feel as individuals.
Help themselves feel good about themselves. That totally does not sound like fi suggestive at all.
Seems like the kind of guy I would go to ask for advice about what skin care products to use. Only manly type beauty products though.
This guy didn't make this video or ask the questions, he's just a part of the video. So if you think the theme of the video is Fi, it still does say the guy is Fi. And no helping you feel good about yourself doesn't sound like Fi suggestive. That sounds more like someone using Fe. Anyway the guy is SLE and not LSE.
None of that is type related.
If that's your image of ESTp then there you go.
I don't know his type and I haven't listened to his albums, but I'd say the concept of time wouldn't be unfamiliar to a SEI if an artist. So in this case it's a musician but what is the stereotypical SEI trying to capture when he’s sketching a landscape with the remains of a church in the distance? There's the warmth of the Sun but also the implication that the souls that have walked that land and set foot in that church are long gone. We can bad short-term memory and that can lend itself to episodes of strangeness when we look from the present to the past. So only a few examples but it wouldn’t strike me as impossible that the concept of time intrigued a musician even with Ni role.
Girl in leopard skirt IEI.
Kyle Long is Alpha SF. Probably ESE
His father Howie Long is LSE
His older brother Chris Long is SLE
Its easier to tell when they're next to each other.
SLE Chris & Alpha SF Kyle
SLE Chris & LSE Howie
EIE
I could kinda see ESE for Kyle Long with how much Fe he's showing.
Last edited by Lord Pixel; 03-02-2020 at 10:11 PM.
Walker Evans: IEI-Ni
Simon Sinek, author of Start With Why, EIE
https://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sine...ge=en#t-686049
The guy seems ESTp. I don't know about the girl.
Edit: Hannah is probably IxI-Ni so/sx, and Dylan is SxE in any case and they look like the main characters in the film Plush, lol.
Last edited by lynn; 04-09-2020 at 05:39 AM.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FdLgyv7Zmaw
Akechi was typed as EIE by an ILE blogger I used to follow. The protagonist is LSI.
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Giacomo Leopardi: IEI-Ni
"A great mind does not yield to necessity; on the contrary, there is nothing, perhaps, that leads such a person to nurture an atrocious, declared, and savage hatred of himself and of life as the thought that his troubles, misery, calamities, etc., are inevitable and irreversible. Only a mean, or weak, or vacillating person, or someone who has no strength of passion, by nature perhaps, or through habit, or as a result of dealing over the years with all kinds of bad luck, hardships, and experience of things and of the way the world is, hardships that have subdued and tamed him—only people like this bend to necessity and actually take comfort from it amid their troubles, saying it would have been crazy to resist and fight them, etc. But the ancients, greater, nobler, and stronger than us as they always were, finding themselves overwhelmed by events, and thinking on their inevitability, the invincible power of the forces that made them wretched and that fastened and bound them to their wretchedness so that it was impossible to turn things round or escape, nurtured a hatred and fury against fate and cursed the Gods, declared war almost against the heavens, powerless though they were and with no hope of victory or revenge, but still not subdued or tamed, or any less determined to take their revenge, quite the contrary in fact, more determined than ever the greater the wretchedness and the more it was inevitable. There are plenty of examples of this in the stories we have. What the dying Julian is supposed to have done may just be fable, I don’t know. Niobe, if I’m not mistaken, cursed the Gods after her catastrophe and declared herself beaten but still unyielding. We who don’t believe in fortune or destiny, and don’t recognize any personification of the necessity that forces events on us, have no one we can turn our hatred and fury against (even if we are noble and constant and unyielding by nature), no one but ourselves, that is; and hence we nurture against our own person a truly lethal hatred, as if we were our own most bitter and primary enemies, and we cheer ourselves with thoughts of suicide and self-mutilation, taking pleasure in the misery that oppresses us, and we come to wish that it was even greater, as when someone plans revenge against an object of supreme anger and hatred. For myself, every time I have been convinced of the inevitability and permanence of my misery, every time, looking desperately, frenetically, this way and that, I have been bound to realize that there is no possible remedy, no hope at all; instead of yielding, or consoling myself with the reflection that the situation was impossible and the result of forces beyond my control, I found myself nurturing a furious hatred against myself, because the misery I hated was located nowhere but in myself; so I was the only possible object of my hatred, since I had no one else, recognized no one else whom I could blame for my troubles and no one else who could become a target of my hatred for this reason. I conceived a burning desire to take revenge on myself and on my own life for a misery that was inevitable and inseparable from my very being and I experienced a fierce joy, a supreme joy, at the thought of suicide. The unyielding world clashed with my own unyielding nature and when the collision came—me incapable of giving way, easing off, or backing down and the world even less so—the loser in the struggle could only be me. Today (except when our ills depend on other people) we don’t see anyone to blame for our misery, or anyone whom Religion doesn’t do everything to prevent us from thinking of as to blame, and hence a proper object of our hatred. All the same, even in the Religion we have today, when misery goes beyond the norm and is not dependent on other people, or visible entities, sometimes someone will develop a hatred against superior and invisible entities and curse them; and this the more so the more that person (steadfast and noble in spirit) is religious and a believer. Job turned to moaning and almost cursing as much God as himself and his own life, his own birth, etc."
Last edited by Dauphin; 04-08-2020 at 10:14 PM.
Colomba ASMR - INFP
Max B SLE-Se 8w7 Sx/So
Posting this for the 2nd time. SEE by Stratiyevskaya profile is basically Trump.
Here is Trump's doppelganger
He has the same interrupted speech, same facial tics, same body mannerisms, same over the top "BIG ALPHA DOG" cartoonish language, same orange tan addiction. The only difference is Trump was raised by a psycho "man's man" father, hazed in a psycho boarding school as a kid, and modeled his image off 90s NYC real estate & Wall St. sharks, so he selectively expresses emotion to look like a caricature of a SLE businessman.
I don't even like V.I. but here you go for those who need it.
Sam Shephard: LSI
Finn Wolfhard seems IEI
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Thanks for the confirmation. I know he’s an Fe user from the way he designed Gourna village, like how he did his best to protect the existing customs of the villagers. He also put funny anecdotes which indicates that he uses Fe.
He cares so much about serving people and doing it properly. If I find an EIE like him I will quit whatever I’m doing and join him/her.
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Leah Remini - SLE soc-6, this shit is crazy but I can see how a social six would follow through with this
Joe Frazier: SLE-Ti. Rather taciturn and serious outside of the ring, but relentless inside the ring.
Ali was SEE. Way more of a showman and a strategist.
Julian Casablancas- IEI-Ni