ESFp; obviously base Se but not a Ti type at all and so much is wrong with the enfj suggestion that it isn't even worth addressing.
he's a pretty standard conflictor of mine though that does not preclude me from finding him interesting from a distance.
ps: can I also point out that if you ever think "that person might be Beta ST or Beta NF" you just hopelessly and irredeemably suck at socionics. they're opposites in pretty much all observable respects.
He's a carbon copy of my SLE grandpa.
I think he's SLE.
LII is also a possibility
I'm on board with SLE. He's gritty and tough, intense yet unpredictable, his quotes are focused on a realism unburdened by pretentious expectations or responsibilities. He enjoys acting but there is a clear area in which he likes to act and he can be seen as quite similar to the slightly unnerving roles he plays. He enjoys shocking other people but hasn't been known to persuade others in a way that is more nuanced and sublime. I think Beta ST EP-temperament works with the Fe-mobilising.
His expression reminds me of Harrison Ford... they both seem SLEs.
I liked him in Easy Rider, Chinatown, and he seems really theatrical in all those even though it never occurred to me to type him;
Hm. maybe because they're also pondering a type for person in question but that just hasn't come to them yet ??
SLE
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He's EIE. Probably Ni subtype. 7w8?
Torn between SLE and LSE. I think SLE.
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Nicholson played a lot of SLEs in the movies but he's not one in real life. The guy is a total introvert.
The SLE typings seem odd in light of Nicholson's biography and his own statements about himself. Which Beta ST would feel so uncertain and inconfident about doing his work? How would an IEI put up with this much worrying and uncertainty?
"I worry from the moment I take a job. I worry about how I'm going to do it, if I can do it... Then I walk on set and the director says, 'Roll', and all of a sudden, all of it disappears and it's all happening, and I relax, and I'm doing what I do, and I'm not even thinking about it." - Jack Nicholson
It also sounds process>result the way he talks about it. He tenses up when he is in the transition period and relaxes when he is already in the middle of the process. I don't have any opinions on his type-it's too elusive for me-but there are several problems with the SLE typing.
SLE creative subtype
We can even see him with his dual in the shining
Good casting
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I just watched Chinatown again. I get the impression of LXE, likely LSE (I agree with @Milo that his biography points to process type)
Yeah he types like LSEs I have known well. Truly. Can rattle off a ton of Te Si data more than one ever knew existed, works their asses off perpetually, and loves Si comforts especially cooking on monstrous levels (like feeding an army for family dinner). Idk about Jack but I am commenting of others I know like him to explain a little of why I type this way.
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Ive always seen him as SEE. Stop seeing beta everywhere plz.
Just from apparence yes, SEE really probably. I didn't analyze more profoundly.
Another (french) SEE imo :
He's NOT SEE sorry I must be adamant because my father is just like him. He is typologically and functionally LSE.
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Some guy: Hey Jack, Socionics says you better stop wasting your time and just catch a sweet lovely EII, your dual!
J. N.: Nah... already got twenty of them in my pool.
Vivian Kubrick filmed a 'making of' of that piece of trash they call 'The Shining'.
In the first minutes I can see Nicholson as fun SLE maybe but then at around 20:00 he suddenly seems SEE. Listening to him, he is not as likeable to me as other LSEs.
Shelly Duvall seems whiny IEI-Fe (but likeable at the same time).
And add another vote for HIGHLY PROBABLE NOT LII for Kubrick. Unless he was highly stressed because of the shooting, I don't like the way he talks to people at times. Duvall takes so much of his BS. Some IEI-Fe can complain a lot but also take so much admonishing with their mouths shut when others lose patience.
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Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
EIE
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(Jung on Si)
SLE-Ti normalizing subtype. The calmth comes from the enneagram 9. This dude is the real life Godfather.
Kubrick is LSI-Ti maybe Ni-Harmonizing
Both are sp/sx I think
LSI-Se
His daughter Lorraine SLE.
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LSI imo because he's constantly talking about fear of acting, taking direction from the director etc. He has valued 1d fe. He (paraphrasing) says the fear goes away once he gets in the groove of things, when everyone is together, working on it.
He clearly understands te imo "I've lost and gained money but I know my way around" but he isn't a fan of talking about methodologies (te). He seems to dodge those questions. Imo it's te ignoring.
He openly talks about the joy of art which is more si and isn't very EP. The demonstrative function is fairly active, in my experience.
He's also quoted as saying "I'm not a power guy, I like everyone to be on equal footing." You could say that that is se ignoring, but the fact that he's talking about it at all indicates more valued than unvalued. It's hard to interpret comments like this but you have to remember that most people don't understand socionics. SLIs don't talk about power unless it's to actively scold someone, and they don't usually feel bad about it. Nicholson imo is talking about actively managing the power dynamics in a conscious way so as to make sure that it's balanced.
And I think his co-host was EIE, not iei. (Although I haven't spent time on her, but I plan to someday)