Expat

[Phaedrus]

Slacker,
don't you get it?
he's saying you shouldn't accept your perceptions of something
nor question someone else's judgments of something based on your own perceptions

you should instead accept other people's judgements (like his)
and use that to question your own perceptions

None of you two is getting my point.

[discojoe]

Slacker,
don't you get it?
he's saying you shouldn't accept your perceptions of something
nor question someone else's judgments of something based on your own perceptions

you should instead accept other people's judgements (like his)
and use that to question your own perceptions

Eww.

[anndelise]

Slacker,
don't you get it?
he's saying you shouldn't accept your perceptions of something
nor question someone else's judgments of something based on your own perceptions

you should instead accept other people's judgements (like his)
and use that to question your own perceptions

None of you two is getting my point.

and you're not getting ours

[Ms. Kensington]

Slacker,
don't you get it?
he's saying you shouldn't accept your perceptions of something
nor question someone else's judgments of something based on your own perceptions

you should instead accept other people's judgements (like his)
and use that to question your own perceptions

None of you two is getting my point.

I get it and i also get that they wouldn't care about that.

[XoX]

I think I get both opinions (in a way). It seems as if objective and subjective-objective approaches collide.

I still think I could be identical or at least somehow very "similar" type with Phaedrus.

[anndelise]

None of you two is getting my point.

Phaedrus, you make an assumption that our doubting something is based on nothing. It seems that you fail to remember that ENFps accept our perceptions. If we do not perceive something to be true, but someone pushes it as being true, we find it easier to accept our perceptions than the other person's judgments. As ENFps, we are aware that there are likely other possibilities, other options.

If we do not perceive someone as being type X, then we are aware that there are likely other possibilities, other options, other perceptions that may fit better.

If, however, we can easily perceive someone as being type X, we may still be aware that there could be other possibilities, other options, but we are more willing to accept the current requested perception….at least until something better comes along or too many exceptions are asked for. In other words, at the point where perceiving someone as being type X no longer becomes possible or it takes quite a bit of effort, we'll open our mind up to the other possibilities, other options.

Currently, it is quite easy to perceive Expat as being TeNi. Some of us would fairly easily accept TeSi as a possiblity. But if we were asked to accept him as.. say.. SiFe, then that would be too far a stretch, would require too many exceptions, and would totally clash with our perceptions of him. So no, we would not accept claims of his being SiFe.



Slacker, if something I said here doesn't fit or you perceive it differently, by all means share.

[discojoe]

I get dual vibes from Expat. When I ask him questions he tends to answer me in exactly the right way, easy to understand, direct, without useless information, and seems to get what I'm trying to say. He's cleared a few things up for me.

[FDG]

I get dual vibes from Expat. When I ask him questions he tends to answer me in exactly the right way, easy to understand, direct, without useless information, and seems to get what I'm trying to say. He's cleared a few things up for me.

I'd go as far as saying that this could be the only piece of evidence against him being ENTj

[discojoe]

I get dual vibes from Expat. When I ask him questions he tends to answer me in exactly the right way, easy to understand, direct, without useless information, and seems to get what I'm trying to say. He's cleared a few things up for me.

I'd go as far as saying that this could be the only piece of evidence against him being ENTj

I wouldn't.

[FDG]

I get dual vibes from Expat. When I ask him questions he tends to answer me in exactly the right way, easy to understand, direct, without useless information, and seems to get what I'm trying to say. He's cleared a few things up for me.

I'd go as far as saying that this could be the only piece of evidence against him being ENTj

I wouldn't.

So you affirm your ISFj-ness?

[discojoe]

I get dual vibes from Expat. When I ask him questions he tends to answer me in exactly the right way, easy to understand, direct, without useless information, and seems to get what I'm trying to say. He's cleared a few things up for me.

I'd go as far as saying that this could be the only piece of evidence against him being ENTj

I wouldn't.

So you affirm your ISFj-ness?

Your deductive reasoning is unflappable.

[FDG]

I get dual vibes from Expat. When I ask him questions he tends to answer me in exactly the right way, easy to understand, direct, without useless information, and seems to get what I'm trying to say. He's cleared a few things up for me.

I'd go as far as saying that this could be the only piece of evidence against him being ENTj

I wouldn't.

So you affirm your ISFj-ness?

Your deductive reasoning is unflappable.

Thanks, I really needed some words of affirmation