1+9 = Lsi/esi+iei/sei - No
2+8 = Sei/ese+sle/see - No
3+7 = Lie/lse+iee/ile - No
4+6 = Iei/eie+??? - ???
5+5 = ... 10
1+9 = Lsi/esi+iei/sei - No
2+8 = Sei/ese+sle/see - No
3+7 = Lie/lse+iee/ile - No
4+6 = Iei/eie+??? - ???
5+5 = ... 10
Tells me nothing I don't already know; that I should get with Twos.
hehOriginally Posted by Orest Reinn
im not sure if this is what you meant, but it does seem that, as a 5, another 5 is often appealing, at least initially. it is easier not to explain to people about detachment because being detached doesn't seem to make much sense in the context of attachment. and it is understandable that interest in a relationship would imply an interest in attachment.
whenever the dog and i see each other we both stop where we are. we regard each other with a mixture of sadness and suspicion and then we feign indifference.
Jerry, The Zoo Story by Edward Albee
I'm an 8, and while I think 2's are useful, but 1's are the most attractive to me in terms of relationships. I benefit more from a partner who will see to details and be fussy about making sure things are done right. I'm more of a long term strategist than someone who will pay a lot of attention to day to day stuff, so I need that. I also don't think a 2 would be inclined to stand up to me the right way.
6's seem to be most attractive to me in terms friendship. I'm not sure if I've ever been in a relationship with a 6 or not. If so, then the one I'm thinking of was a good match for me.
9's... I dunno, sounds like I might be tempted to bitch at him/her and tell him/her to grow some balls.
5's are easy enough to get along with. Too distant to have a serious relationship with though.
3's, 4's, 7's, and 8's could go either way in terms of friendship, but I can't see myself in a relationship with any of them (except maybe an 8? never tried it... see first paragraph). I don't respect insecure 8's that think the only way they can be free is to trample on and control others.
is it just me, or does this remind anybody of anything? (credit goes to salawa for first pointing this out)
These two types bring to each other complementary and reciprocal talents—just what the other needs but is not necessarily aware of. For instance, Enneagram Fives need to be more identified with their body and with their instinctive energy; they need to be more engaged with the practical world and to feel their own sense of power and capacity. They can learn these qualities from Eights. On the other hand, Eights need to be more thoughtful and aware of the impact of their actions on themselves and on their environment. They need to know more and to think of consequences more carefully before acting. Every action produces a reaction, and it is not necessarily the one that the Eight wants to happen. This kind of analytic foresight is something Eights can learn from Fives.
Besides these qualities, both Fives and Eights bring a common insistence on independence and non-interference from others. Both types are aware of boundaries and dislike intrusion. Both enjoy a good debate, and both admire someone who stands up for himself intellectually and/or physically. Both types feel like misfits and so they understand each other's emotional core, often in an unspoken way. Both types need personal space, but when they find each other, they can both show a surprising degree of need and vulnerability. They see the other person behind the defense, relating to each others' sense of dignity and hidden vulnerabilities. Both can be stoical toward their own suffering and unhappiness, with little or no self-pity. As a couple, they can bring power and depth, action and thoughtfulness, brilliance and brashness to their world. They are also the natural protectors and advisors of each other: Eights love to protect less tough Fives, and Fives help Eights recognize the subtleties for their plans and actions. These two types can therefore band together as a coalition of power and brains, a formidable combination.
What do you think of Intimate Fives ?
you should really know that intimate fives are most often the girly sex maniacs, sadly often predisposed to the types of mental delusions that bring about the maternal instinct followed by the sudden swoosh and abortive measures
whenever the dog and i see each other we both stop where we are. we regard each other with a mixture of sadness and suspicion and then we feign indifference.
Jerry, The Zoo Story by Edward Albee
I don't know. I still can't imagine I'd do better with a 5 in a relationship than a 1 (or even 6).
For me, 9s or 2s are likely the best partners. Any S+ type does well for me, even if a D0 or D- is better paired with a D+ like me given that otherwise the relationship may become too competitive.
Last edited by FDG; 03-31-2008 at 08:46 AM.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
That's an interesting way of looking at it.
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