SEE does seem to work very well, but there are certain inconsistencies in what you're saying with the SEE outlook.
in particular, you seem to be strongly emphasizing over .
maybe EIE/SLE/ILE?
SEE does seem to work very well, but there are certain inconsistencies in what you're saying with the SEE outlook.
in particular, you seem to be strongly emphasizing over .
maybe EIE/SLE/ILE?
Ask me more questions!!!
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
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I would probably go buy a big ass house on the coast of SoCal, deck it out with all kinds of nice, comfy, expensive stuff, and invite my best friends to live with me. We'd all learn to surf, sail, boat, scua dive, etc. We'd go to theme parks and ride rides, eat at a different expensive restaurant every night, smoke lots of really dank reefer, hang out and drop acid at the house during the weekends, and generally just chill. We'd make appearences at clubs, chill in the VIP rooms, be admired by everyone, throw huge parties, and just generally live lavish.
Oh, and we would hang out with Snoop Dogg
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
No, if anything this points to SEE more.Originally Posted by thehotelambush
Originally Posted by Voyce
You are one talented person...
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
Most definitely. the "hey hey hey" seems to be an hallmar. I don't even understand why people are discussing other possibilities.Originally Posted by Subterranean
Gilligan...just shut up, c'mon. :wink:
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
long hardass explanation for something that is pretty obvious. he fucking takes classes IN LOGIC PEOPLE DO YOU UNDERSTAND? IF THIS IS NOT VALUING TI I CAN GO SHOOT MYSELF IN THE BALLS RIGHT NOW, no I won't do it because I know I am right.Originally Posted by labcoat
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I think you're INFp, vague impression(no pun)
You could learn a thing or two from himOriginally Posted by FDG
Nice, tell me why now. Idiotic attempts at one-liners without explanations are simply laughable.Originally Posted by Typhon
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Well, I think you act like you KNOW and all that shit, and maybe, just maybe you're on to something here, but that doesnt PROVE hes ESTp without a shadow of a doubt, and I think you're acting all "I KNOW THIS IS RIGHT" type shit only gets people to doubt your security as a masculine creature, rather than conivnce them you are right. No offense or anything, I just couldnt help but saying that, now Im stuck with explaining, myself .
OK I understand, but when I say it it's because I know I'm right, now always then. If somebody were to come here and write a description of himself that coincided for 90 percent with yourself, wouldn't you be pretty sure that he's the same type as you?Originally Posted by Typhon
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Makes sense, I think I see where you're coming from.
I agree that u might be an ESTp, and Delta seems to be your conflicting quadra based on your comments about it.
For what it's worth, everything I've read makes me think I'm an F type. Like I said, creating a specific impression is definitely my #1 defining personality trait. I don't think taking classes in logic makes me a T.
Also, I'm an F in Meyers-Briggs
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
My intuition says ENFp. I'm not sure though.
Laziness on don't-like things, activeness on do-like things, moody temper, spending money, overall apperarance (how he describes himself) => makes me think Ep temperament.
Resolving conflicts and this "I'd never gossip behind one's back" makes me think of . Needing reassurance about being good at something could be super-id, right? Since he seems Ep, it means would be creative. That leaves the possibility of ENFp and ESFp.
Weirdness, making people feel awkward and such are the things I think about . Voyce likes analysing people and relationships and that's also. In my little experience seems more intellectual than , and Voyce seems a bit intellectual. Maybe it's just that I like more than .
Intuition
You know perfectly fucking well that I know DAMN well what the hell I'm talking about; probably more so by FAR than you, Joy. Stop talking shit and go do something you're actually good at; sitting on Peter's dick comes to mind (and not much else).Originally Posted by Joy
I'm still going with IEE, and, if not, ILE. So the guy likes to spend money...doesn't make him Se by a long shot. He even says himself that making lots of money isn't a priority, and the fact that he likes spending over-the top suggests weaker Te. Also, he mentioned something about being "all about team spirit;" that's Aristocracy if I've ever heard it....
Oh, and notice the fact that he asks people to explain the system, instead of taking initiative to research it himself. Not a sure shot, obviously, but I'd say it points more to an ethical type.
And for fuck's sake, Fabie, get your head out of your ass: Kim TEACHES logic, and she's IEE. It means he has a fucking brain, not Ti.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Despite the fact that you seem like an asshole...I agree with the part of what you say that I understnad
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
So far I don't think any of the types seriously suggested are not possible. He's young so he comes across as more cocky than he probably would if he were older, and that might be throwing people off a bit.
I think either ESFp or ENFp probably. I don't think studying logic means anything. First, the word "logic" as we use it in the English language isn't 100% synonymous with . Secondly, he's a young man, and in his attempt to be perceived as masculine he could emphasize some traits considered by our society to be masculine. Young men do this kind of thing. He really seems to be pushing a persona.
But I couldn't rule out that he is ESTp or something either.
His list of 5 biggest strengths (not the farting one but the other one) reads like an ENFp until you get to the part about logic. I'm not sure what to make of that. But it reads like Si is a huge value, doesn't it?
Oh, and I think both ENFps and ESFps love to spend money.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Voyce-I love your avatar-I don't care what type you are.
Gilligan I want to eat your avatar!
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
I TEACH logic, so that does not mean a thing.
Young ENFps are much more likely to be shy (like Mea and myself when I was young) or sunny hyper (Meatburger). I don't see why an ENFp would act all Se. Believe me, people, those you type as ENFp
are ESFp (ethical subtype).
In this particular case, ESTp, hands down.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Let's recap.
Overt dislike for abuse of authority - I say unvalued Se, but obviously some disagree.
Need to "be real" - Fi values, if anything
Avoiding confrontation - Si values
Liking to think that he would be confident enough to confront, but past experience contradicts - Se role
Dislikes questioning of his skills - Te values, maybe ethical
Likes to discuss social roles and relationships - Ethical (obviously), maybe NF, Fi
Asking for help overtly instead of researching - a weak indicator of ethical
Hating to see people left out - Aristocracy or Fe.
Creating a good impresson - Obviously ethics, perhaps leaning Fe
Resolving conflicts - Si, ethical
Promoting himself - Se
Literature analysis - Obvously not a sure bet for anything, but it is a hallmark of NFs
Temper - Irrational, more likely ethical
Logic - Again, no sure bets, but points to logical type
Laziness - Si quadra
Excess - EP if anything
Materialism - Points to Se preference, but again, lack of emphasis on money as a personal long-term goal, and more about spending money than making it
Disinterestin pragmaticism - intuitive, perhaps lacking Te values, but I can't say I know any IEEs who are particularly interested in practicality...
Position of power - valued Se, but the emphasis is purely social, so maybe Fe
Has to relax, let hair down - Si values
Team spirit - Aristocracy
Not going out of his way to make life better for these unseen, unknown masses - Delta values ("Live and let live," Fi)
Emphasis on small groups - Fi
Likes lightheartedness - Ethical, Fe
Emphasis on comfort and cuisine - Si
Emphasis on quality purchases - Te values
Points more to IEE than anything else.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
An explanation, perhaps...?Originally Posted by Kim
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
.
I'm depressed, bored, and have nothing better to do. Cut me some slack :wink:Originally Posted by Voyce
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
takin this at face value....
esfp or estp. it's like Se overload....look at the volitional force in voyce's posts!
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
ESFp > ESTp or ENFp or ENTp > anything else
I can say REMINDS me of two ESFp's I've known, but I didn't read the whole thread, I confess.
SEE Unknown Subtype
6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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Ok, I'm sorry, I'm really, genuinely not trying to be an ass now, but does anyone else plan on providing even marginal reasoning for what they say after I've made a rather strong case for IEE?
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Originally Posted by Gilligan
not me lol <3
SEE Unknown Subtype
6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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gilly just look at the first post of the thread. it screams Se.Originally Posted by Gilligan
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Kelly I love you for your honestyOriginally Posted by Clover
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Any more than me being an aggressive dickhole? Get real.Originally Posted by diamond8
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
i'm as real as they come sweet cheeks.Originally Posted by Gilligan
you don't scream Se BTW. you scream Ne - unbridled intellectual confidence, not volitional force.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
You're idea of socionics is twisted. Ne has fuck-all to do with intellectual confidence.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
What she said sorta makes sense for Ne + Ti
take a chill pill gilligan. your weak Fi is just showing now.Originally Posted by Gilligan
and, no, simply being an asshole does not an Se dominant make.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
So you're saying that NeTi is more intellectually confident than SeTi? Ever heard of Slavoj Zizek? Ever met a smart SLE, or a dumb ILE? Come on now.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
You're furthering my case for your Socionics-related ignorance.Originally Posted by diamond8
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
i never said sle wasn't smart. i said ile's forcefulness comes from intellectual confidence. sle's comes from volitional power. people are smart about all different kinds of things.
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often