Aang- IEI
Katara - EIE
Sokka - SLE
Toph - SLI?
Zuko - LSI
Iroh - xxFx
Bumi -ILE
Aang- IEI
Katara - EIE
Sokka - SLE
Toph - SLI?
Zuko - LSI
Iroh - xxFx
Bumi -ILE
Aang- IEE
Katara- ESE
Sokka- LIE
Toph- SLE
Zuko- EII
Iroh- EIE
Azula- LIE
Jet- SLE
Ty Lee- SEE
Finally someone who thinks Zuko is ESI
Library because this site has become sort of an idiocracy
I’ll work from the following list as it’s both nicely comprehensive and wants little adjustment. Typings that are struck through shall be discussed below. Typings in green are spot on. The ones I haven't commented on nor struck through all seem OK; one simply can't say for certain, typically because a character is less developed.
Sokka probably isn’t ILE. Too grounded, always interested in practical matters, only daydreams about girls and food (no alternative scenarios), and becomes pushy and irritable when there’s too much faffing about (not an α-type). His pushiness though is a faux sort most of the time —typical of id block Se. (Arguably it could be role Se as well, only most descriptions have it down as id Se.) Anyway some forumites believe only intuitive types are creative… this is a misconception. His type of practical cleverness is sufficiently accounted for by 4D Te. LSE can have a fairly relaxed, sporting type for EjOriginally Posted by Living 2Day
Also, remember his stupid little timetable in the third arc? No self-respecting intuitive will spend time planning 'potty breaks' two weeks in advance. Ni PoLR fits.
Not sure about Suki and Yue... 2D characters haven't really got sociotypes.
Azula’s an incredible strategist, but she can’t be ILI. She’s too self-motivated, too readily jumps into the centre of things, and sort of garish when it comes to flirting. Her relationship to Si must be ignoring or PoLR; internally restless, always moving. Fi also isn’t stronger than 1D. SLE is possible, but she’s just a bit too clueless and awkward so Si-PoLR, viz., LIE, is more likely. The forum tends to perceive SLE as incorrigible hotheads but they can plan as well; they’ve creative Ti after all.
Iroh is imo the second most mistyped character in ATLA; he really can't be EII. I think he's SEI, like Nelliel from Bleach (the sophisticated adult form of Nel -- the child form is probably IEE). Unlike EII, alpha SF have the capacity for skill when it comes to the art of war, only they tend to become disillusioned and philosophically reject their id block at some point. Iroh even gets typed IEI; this comes from the misapprehension that SEI cannot be wise and high-minded, which is absurd. Fundamental to his character is a connection with the earthier aspects of life; he's a lover of music and various art forms; and he doesn't bathe unless he feels like it (and then for the pleasure of the experience and not to clean himself) which is most true of lead sensoric types
Toph is the most mistyped character; nearly everyone seems to think she's SLI, although...
Toph genuinely enjoys fighting and wants to try her hand in the arena as a small child. Judicious types are unlikely to approach dangerous competition with such relish. She also talks like a β type, calling people 'bleeding coward' and 'stinking maggot' and things. She’s introduced as someone who’s methodical and capable of waiting; Ti base would fit well. Strong sensorics allows her to 'see' in spite of blindness. Like any β-ST type, she could not tolerate weakness for long, and actively, but not rashly, took control of her situation. Katara (probably ESE) attempts to adjust Toph’s methods to something gentler, but Toph will not entertain such suggestions. This isn’t SLE either; she remains more or less obediently in her prescribed station in life till an ethical appeal (with far-reaching connotations) causes her to leave home, not to slip out the back door as an ILI might be tempted to do (why anyone types her ILI when she sees with her feet…), but to plainly tell her parents exactly what she’s planning, because that’s simply polite.
Her relationship with Aang probably provides a healthy example of conflict in sociotypes. They don’t despise one another for all eternity; they do attempt to work together; their relationship isn’t categorised by disrespect and aversion. It just isn’t as successful as it could be; a third party is usually required to bridge the slight chasm.
Bumi's clever and patient and loves messing with people. ILI isn't a bad typing... I had thought unhinged LIE because of his madcap persona but ILI is possible.
The four nations correspond rather neatly to socionics quadra as well:
α -- air, philosophical detachment; on the other hand, freedom and fun
β -- fire, restrictive and dominant; fire is the strongest in battle; has some ouroboros qualities
γ -- earth, empires and political intrigue; power is not obtained through overt action but subversive tactics and brainwashing
δ -- water, somewhere off the beaten track; can be a bit bureaucratic when they do form hierarchies
do you suppose he’s e4
In my head I can’t stop pronouncing this character’s name Zhuko (住口) —joking aside, others evidently think him a bit fiery for ESI, but when in Rome… the fire nation are clearly the most β sort, whereas Zhuko’s got the most quintessentially gamma story anywhere; an incessant struggle from a very young age, and his repeated line about having been lucky to be born. His Fi seems as if he's attempted to devalue it (honour instead of a separate kind of virtue) but he’s adhering to a moral code of his own, and if slightly misguided, he is at least not regarding situations with anything resembling pragmatism. Zuko he’s one of those Ij types who live in perpetual rage and irritation. He takes everything too personally, not enough dry humour for LSI.
His knife-throwing specialist girlfriend could be ILI but she gives very direct orders and her speech is a bit prosaic which makes ISTx a bit more likely.
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So3, image orientated, needs recognition for being the best, basically fixation on efficiency hence LIE/Te base. Visionary, makes big promises and attempts to show and flex her potential, which is an extroverted intuitive trait. Stale social skills, obviously not high in Fi/Fe
Iroh is imo the second most mistyped character in ATLA; he really can't be EII. I think he's SEI, like Nelliel from Bleach (the sophisticated adult form of Nel -- the child form is probably IEE). Unlike EII, alpha SF have the capacity for skill when it comes to the art of war, only they tend to become disillusioned and philosophically reject their id block at some point. Iroh even gets typed IEI; this comes from the misapprehension that SEI cannot be wise and high-minded, which is absurd. Fundamental to his character is a connection with the earthier aspects of life; he's a lover of music and various art forms; and he doesn't bathe unless he feels like it (and then for the pleasure of the experience and not to clean himself) which is most true of lead sensoric types
Toph is the most mistyped character; nearly everyone seems to think she's SLI, although...
[spoiler="she is obviously β"] [/QUOTE]
She is likely to bully/tease those she sees as weaker, overall she is sp8, which is SLE either way. Iroh being all lazy and comfort seeking is a heavy indication of Si base overall, being calm and attempting to relax other people is a Si+Fe thing, Iroh was always a peaceful person, but he was well capable of fighting. Generally being non-aggressive is a Te polar thing, EXIs can be like that too until you start pushing them too much.
Matter as fact, Zuko is sp4. Zuko was still kicked out of the fire nation from a young age when he spoke out against his father's wishes, critiquing generals on what repulses him about their plans(Fi, likes, dislikes, relations, etc). Zuko valuing Fi, relations, he tries to be set himself to find the avatar to regain his Father's admiration. However, his mother preferred him over his sister for his sensitivity, while his sister was obviously a demon child in her eyes. If anything, Zuko fails to suppress his Fi, holding onto his role Ti to try to save his relations, only being a way to seek love from his father and close ones but isn't genuinely fixiated on any ideal.do you suppose he’s e4
In my head I can’t stop pronouncing this character’s name Zhuko (住口) —joking aside, others evidently think him a bit fiery for ESI, but when in Rome… the fire nation are clearly the most β sort, whereas Zhuko’s got the most quintessentially gamma story anywhere; an incessant struggle from a very young age, and his repeated line about having been lucky to be born. His Fi seems as if he's attempted to devalue it (honour instead of a separate kind of virtue) but he’s adhering to a moral code of his own, and if slightly misguided, he is at least not regarding situations with anything resembling pragmatism. Zuko he’s one of those Ij types who live in perpetual rage and irritation. He takes everything too personally, not enough dry humour for LSI.
His knife-throwing specialist girlfriend could be ILI but she gives very direct orders and her speech is a bit prosaic which makes ISTx a bit more likely.
Zuko doesn't think "a real man has to be a soldier in order to be a man." He is sure of himself for the most part.
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