i hate Dane Cook. he's an ass. the man is as funny as herpes: to be avoided at all cost.Originally Posted by Baby
i hate Dane Cook. he's an ass. the man is as funny as herpes: to be avoided at all cost.
IEI - the nasty kind...
Camilla Poindexter...SLE-Se
She seems ENFp to me
Camilla Poindexter...SLE-Se
Marianne Faithfull...SLE-Se 9w8 so/sx
VI For SLE-Se
Grace Slick....SLE-Se 9w8 so/sp
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sle-se/
Nell McCafferty....SLE-Se 8w9 so/sp
Napoleon....SLE-Se 8w7 so/sp
Tony Spilotro...SLE-Se 8w7 so/sx
Debbie Schlussel....SLE-Se 7w8 so/sp
Heidi Fleiss...SLE-Se 7w8 so/sx
It's all coming together now.
Unification
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@Kill4Me
You got some examples of SLEs who are SX-first? (Bonus points for women, as they're more pleasing to look at.)
Parvati Shallow - SLE-Ti 3w2 sx/so
Rachel Robinson - SLE-Ti 8w9 sx/so
Kendra Wilkinson - SLE-Ti (Socionix) 6w7 sx/so
Drita D'avanzo - SLE-Se 7w8 sx/so
Stella - SLE-Se 8w9 sx/so
Camilla Poindexter - SLE-Se 8w7 sx/so
Oh Lord. The laugh at 1:17 was so awkward.
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
Every time someone types a sociopath, or psychopath, SLE a demon loses it's wings.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
He only focuses on this criminal version. Hes not wrong, hes also not totally right.Every time someone types a sociopath, or psychopath, SLE a demon loses it's wings.
Lenny Mclean...SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sx
Lee Duffy...SLE-Ti 8w9 sx/sp
https://www.betterworldbooks.co.uk/p...die-1844544729 (his rival Viv Graham was LSE-Te)
Xie Caiping....SLE-Ti 8w7 sp/so
Dubbed the "godmother" of the Chinese underworld, she was notorious for her toughness and a lavish lifestyle that reportedly included luxury villas and a stable of 16 young lovers.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33606185/n.../#.WqYE50xFzIU
Living up to the stereotype of the hardbitten gangster, she swore in court, to the displeasure of the judge. One associate described her as "good at debating and drinking, and very helpful to friends".
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...her-underworld
The queen pin employed a security force that kept an eye out for possible raids and operated like a legitimate police force. So even the police were not safe from Xie’s displeasure. The queen pin’s security once caught one police man named Xie Yingkuang, who was working undercover investigating Xie’s gambling dens. In August, 2006, Xie’s security exposed Yingkuang’s cover. After being held for about twenty-five hours, Yingkuang was stuffed in a gunny bag and left in the wilds, many kilometers away from Chongqing.
On at least one occasion, Xie detained a police officer whom she claimed was a “thief from the outside.” Xie was also said to have thugs beat up businessmen and women when they didn’t agree to turn their establishments into casinos. The queen pin’s treatment of informants was brutal. One of Xie’s victims claimed at her trial that Xie ordered her subordinates to find out who reported to the police and then cut their hands and legs.
http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profile...ese-underworld
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Carmine Galante...SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqy937BT4yo&t=99s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmin...re_gangster-7:
"Galante stood around 5 feet 6 inches and weighed approximately 160 pounds. While in prison in 1931, doctors diagnosed Galante as having a psychopathic personality."
"The New York crime families were alarmed at Galante's brazen attempt at taking over the narcotics market. Galante also refused to share any drug profits with the other families. Although Galante was aware that he had many enemies, he said, "No one will ever kill me, they wouldn't dare."
"Galante reportedly had a cold, dead-eyed stare with eyes that betrayed an utter indifference to human life, scaring both law enforcement as well as other Mafia members. Ralph Salerno, a former New York Police Department detective, once said, "Of all the gangsters that I've met personally, and I've met dozens of them in all of my years, there were only two who, when I looked them straight in the eye, I decided I wouldn't want them to be really personally mad at me. Aniello Dellacroce was one and Carmine Galante was the other. They had bad eyes, I mean, they had the eyes of killers. You could see how frightening they were, the frigid glare of a killer."
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Weckingball…SLE-Ti 7w8 so/sp
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sle-ti/
schlussel retypes SLE-Se
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Joan Jett...SLE-Se 1w2 so/sx
Solid fit for SLE-Se VI template:
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/sle-se/
SLE for sure and 7w8 seems about right. When he smashed the board--->have seen similar things before.
edit: with low Iq.
SLE for sure and 7w8 seems about right. When he smashed the board--->have seen similar things before.
Is that the Mirror of low Ip?
hahaha! zing!
I find him so sexy for some reason
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
I miss read this as " for no reason"I find him so sexy for some reason.
I think either statement worksI miss read this as " for no reason"
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
He’s most definitely an Se subtype and 7w8 SLE. He’s a real life Bart Simpson who loves talking shit with some underlying seriousness.
Don Arden...SLE-Ti 8w7 sp/sx
"He achieved notoriety in Britain for his aggressive, sometimes illegal business tactics; which led to his being called "Mr Big", the "Yiddish Godfather" and the "Meyer Lansky of Pop"."
"In 1966, Arden and a squad of 'minders' turned up at impresario Robert Stigwood's office to 'teach him a lesson' for daring to discuss a change of management with Small Faces. This became one of the most notorious incidents from the 1960s British pop business. Arden reportedly threatened to throw Stigwood out of the window if he ever interfered with his business again"
"When group member John Hawken confronted Arden about some confusion over monies to be collected, his manager told him, "I have the strength of 10 men in these hands" and threatened to throw him from an office window."
The band's first hit was obtained by "chart-fixing",[3] which cost Arden £12,000. Arden denied it was cheating: "I had a saying, you can't polish a turd. In other words, if the record's no good to begin with it still won't be any good after you've wasted your time and money getting it played."
"In 1979, one of Arden's successes, Black Sabbath, sacked their vocalist Ozzy Osbourne. Arden's daughter Sharon entered into a relationship with Osbourne, and took over his management from her father. Arden was livid. Reportedly, the next time Sharon visited Don, his vicious pet dogs savaged her.[12] She was pregnant at the time and lost the child."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Arden
Mike Tyson...SLE-Ti 6w7 sx/sp
So SLE, he is naturally athletic, competitive, tough, lots of energy, animalistic, likes to fight, likes to train, likes to be feared, likes to hurt people, thrives in battle and is very territorial. Ti-subtype as he was a very disciplined trainer.
For his enneagram, tyson is certainly in the reactive 4, 6, 8 grouping. Obviously not a four, six is right. He is too soft and self-indulgent for an eight.... too humble in contrast to the empire builder 8 and showed extreme, unwavering devotion to Cus D'Amato and Don King, which, in the latter, cost him dearly.
In contrast to eights, sixes also have a life pattern of falling behind the eight-ball because of interpersonal strife/conflicts, with eights the conflicts are primarily with obstacles in the way of, or in furtherance of, expansion. The whole Robin Givens relationship pretty much broke Tyson as a fighter and that was the reason he lost to a journeyman Buster Douglas and fell headlong into a downward spiral. Tyson also has a weakness and/or love/hate relationship with authority figures. Cus D'Amato took him in and provided him with daily structure. Tyson's devotion to 8w9 Cus D'Amato was unparallel. His relationship has overtures of Marilyn Monroe's relationship to Lee Strasberg, who enjoyed wielding his authority in an autocratic manner at the Actor's Studio. She reportedly did great work at the actor's studio but became so attached and dependent on Strasberg's strong personality that Monroe could not function unless he was there. Cus D'Amato's passing also contributed to Tyson's downward spiral. The next Cus D'Amato for him was Don King, another strong personality. But Tyson's devotion to King cost him as King was able to simply rob and exploit Tyson.
In the interview with Robin Givens, Tyson also just sits there and doesn't really assert himself, even as Robin Givens is dogging him. Seven wing due to his rashness and capacity for ingratiation
Tyson is not as steadfast and mentally tough in battle as an eight...you see this in the fight with evander holyfield when he bit Holyfield's ear. He falls more to the mercy of triggers than say a SLE 8 like Napoleon, who was more willful and strategic when it came to driving his own agenda in the midst of the action...SLE 8s are typically naturally very good at war-time/aggressive strategy, even without any experience (note, important to distinguish from tactics)...Tyson is quicker to lose his presence of mind and just start brawling, by strategic and willful the capacity to take action in the absence of a trigger day in and day out, one brick at a time if need be, purely to expand one's territory. Of course, Tyson is capable of doing big things, but he just needs to be triggered to get him going... He'll respond intensely, but that's not willpower, that's just fight or flight, where being tactical comes in handy. Most people can be pretty intense and action-packed when there is a fire in their house, but what happens when there's no fire, what are they doing. Willpower is being able to put a strategy into action in the absence of any external trigger.
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Joseph Kony...SLE-Se 9w1 so/sp
https://youtu.be/scMHLWzGOd0?t=458
Charles Bronson...SLE-Ti 8w7 sx/sp
Big Herc….SLE-Ti 6w5 sp/sx
Ultimate Warrior...SLE-Ti 1w2 so/sp
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Newbolt...SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp
Sky....SLE-Se 2w3 so/sp
Coral...SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sx
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Zakk Wylde...SLE-Ti 9w8 sx/sp
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Jessica...SLE-Se 9w1 so/sx
I finally found an example of this enneagram-socionics combination. They are very, very rare!, but the physiology for both socionics and enneagram is on all fours with Stackemup Typology (see my profile).
Not Se/Fi...she says to her parents, "Don't say anything to me. I'm cutting ties with you, anyway" in a really cold tone. Too cold for Se/Fi....it is more the tough talk made possible through Fi PoLr. Fi-creative gives SEE a more humanistic bubble-burst so by the end of the episode there is a tearful reconciliation. This is the only example of a SLE-Se 9w1 so/sx ever to have been posted on this forum. Her trifix would be 9w1-2w3-7w8, same trifix as Courtney Love but with a different core fix. Courtney Love is SLE-Se 7w8-9w1-2w3 so/sx.
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Toto Constant...SLE-Ti 8w7 sp/so
Some Revisions:
Newbolt is SLE-Ti 8w9 so/sp, Frank Lucas is SLE-Se 8w9 so/sp.
Charles Bronson (UK Prisoner) is SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp, not SLE-Ti 8w7 sx/sp.
(I've only found half-a-dozen SLE 8w7 so/sp examples out of some 2500+ people: Charles Bronson (UK), Huey Long, Carmine Galante, Carl Panzram, Tony Spilotro, La China)
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Big Boy (Strength Cartel)...SLE-Se 8w7 sx/so
Xie Caiping...SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp
I've decided to reroute Xie Caiping from SLE-Ti 8w7 sp'o to SLE-Ti 8w7 so'p. so/sp 8w7s have more dominant vibes in pictures because the unconscious, instinctive strategy of dominance is being pushed out into the Social Sphere.
"I have the might to crush you like soda can!" Look at the vibe on the faces of those two next to her.
Caiping best fits with SLE-Ti...As an SLE, Caiping has a cognition for force, brutality and conquering obstacles in the way of her goals....The Ti-subtype likes to be feared, likes to intimidate, fight and hurt people. Short-fused and abrasive are other notable descriptors for SLE-Ti. Fi PoLr gives the impression of indifference towards human suffering and a primarily moving against, competitive object relations. Se/Fi favors a more moving towards, cooperative object relations even if they come off as having a big mouth.
Caiping best fits with type 8...Xie Caiping is a good example of the Aggressive Gestalt. As an 8, her unconscious strategy/drive is dominance and area of fixation is power. This is evidenced by the ruthlessness that came out when she was not shown deference and her overall iron-fisted style. She also demonstrates the core action set for type 8: ruthless expedience, threatening or violent language/behavior, never backing down from a fight, and killing the competition. Go review my primers on each gestalt in the fictional exemplars thread in the enneagram sub-forum.
I see the sub-action set (or wing) is empire-building and waging war which points towards an 8w7 rather than 8w9. She's a good example of the Savage-Aggressive Gestalt. You can tell that from just her photos alone.
Finer Distinctions (8w7 so/sp vs. 8w7 sx/so): Xie Caiping is 8w7 so/sp and Griselda Blanco is 8w7 sx/so. They are both ruthless crime bosses referred to as the Godmother. They both display the core action set and areas of fixation. They even both display the same sub action set. Blanco isn't as tough-minded and sharp-witted as Xie Caiping...Blanco is softern and self-indulgent, not quite as independent. Remember that Blanco fell in love with Charles Crosby to the point that she decreased power. Crosby is also the one who eventually did her in after the authorities picked them up over a wiretap conversing about the "JFK plan." Blanco also used a lot of drugs and ate a lot...she was obese. sx-last 8w7s are more independent and athletic. They do not develop addictions to drugs, alcohol, gambling, over-eating and/or sex...Al Capone (LIE-Te 8w7 sx/so), same thing....look at his big belly and note that he contracted Syphillis. Two vices right there you are not going to find in a SLE-Se 8w7 so/sp like Napoleon, etc. Napoleon was a lot more disciplined and willful. Sp-last 8w7s are softer and self-indulgent in contrast to the other stackings of 8w7 but still have the same core action set. Like Napoleon, Blanco and Capone were all about killing the competition and waging war on rivals in order to maximize power.
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N/A...SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp
Here's another female SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp. I can tell by the look of her eye.
It's suspected to be a picture of Shobha Iyer - India's Mysterious Gang queen.
https://www.scoopwhoop.com/inotherne...ld/#.nyf1sgyc5
However, another site is reporting that there's no photographs on record for Shobha Iyer.
So if you look out with intensity you are SLE.N/A...SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp
Here's another female SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp. I can tell by the look of her eye.
It's suspected to be a picture of Shobha Iyer - India's Mysterious Gang queen.
https://www.scoopwhoop.com/inotherne...ld/#.nyf1sgyc5
However, another site is reporting that there's no photographs on record for Shobha Iyer.
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