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    Mike Tyson...SLE-Ti 6w7 sx/sp












    So SLE, he is naturally athletic, competitive, tough, lots of energy, animalistic, likes to fight, likes to train, likes to be feared, likes to hurt people, thrives in battle and is very territorial. Ti-subtype as he was a very disciplined trainer.

    For his enneagram, tyson is certainly in the reactive 4, 6, 8 grouping. Obviously not a four, six is right. He is too soft and self-indulgent for an eight.... too humble in contrast to the empire builder 8 and showed extreme, unwavering devotion to Cus D'Amato and Don King, which, in the latter, cost him dearly.

    In contrast to eights, sixes also have a life pattern of falling behind the eight-ball because of interpersonal strife/conflicts, with eights the conflicts are primarily with obstacles in the way of, or in furtherance of, expansion. The whole Robin Givens relationship pretty much broke Tyson as a fighter and that was the reason he lost to a journeyman Buster Douglas and fell headlong into a downward spiral. Tyson also has a weakness and/or love/hate relationship with authority figures. Cus D'Amato took him in and provided him with daily structure. Tyson's devotion to 8w9 Cus D'Amato was unparallel. His relationship has overtures of Marilyn Monroe's relationship to Lee Strasberg, who enjoyed wielding his authority in an autocratic manner at the Actor's Studio. She reportedly did great work at the actor's studio but became so attached and dependent on Strasberg's strong personality that Monroe could not function unless he was there. Cus D'Amato's passing also contributed to Tyson's downward spiral. The next Cus D'Amato for him was Don King, another strong personality. But Tyson's devotion to King cost him as King was able to simply rob and exploit Tyson.

    In the interview with Robin Givens, Tyson also just sits there and doesn't really assert himself, even as Robin Givens is dogging him. Seven wing due to his rashness and capacity for ingratiation

    Tyson is not as steadfast and mentally tough in battle as an eight...you see this in the fight with evander holyfield when he bit Holyfield's ear. He falls more to the mercy of triggers than say a SLE 8 like Napoleon, who was more willful and strategic when it came to driving his own agenda in the midst of the action...SLE 8s are typically naturally very good at war-time/aggressive strategy, even without any experience (note, important to distinguish from tactics)...Tyson is quicker to lose his presence of mind and just start brawling, by strategic and willful the capacity to take action in the absence of a trigger day in and day out, one brick at a time if need be, purely to expand one's territory. Of course, Tyson is capable of doing big things, but he just needs to be triggered to get him going... He'll respond intensely, but that's not willpower, that's just fight or flight, where being tactical comes in handy. Most people can be pretty intense and action-packed when there is a fire in their house, but what happens when there's no fire, what are they doing. Willpower is being able to put a strategy into action in the absence of any external trigger.
    Last edited by Kill4Me; 07-09-2018 at 11:37 AM.

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