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    I would like to recommend you two movies (I seen both in the last month) if you want to get a picture of how this types are and think:

    ISTp:

    The perfume (although this is taken to the extreme).

    ENFp:

    The Pursuit of Happiness.
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    The Village: female ENFp, male ISTp

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemex
    ENFp:

    The Pursuit of Happiness.
    Yes. I saw this the other day and i got that impression too. The whole concept felt very ENFp
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    What types would you say are in the movie The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? I just saw that again and its one of my favorite movies. The guy seems IXTP and the girl seems EXFP (well maybe). They both are somewhat unhealthy but it does underscore some main points about their types. I love the way it was filmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger
    Quote Originally Posted by mikemex
    ENFp:

    The Pursuit of Happiness.
    Yes. I saw this the other day and i got that impression too. The whole concept felt very ENFp

    That must be why that movie gave me a warm squishy feeling inside and stuff.
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    I like action movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    I like action movies.
    Me too, i haven't seen many lately and it sucks. I used to love all the marital arts ones, Stephen Segal, Jet li, Jean Claude Van Dame etc.

    I saw smoking aces the other day that was refreshing
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    I like the comic book, action movies like X-Men, Spiderman and V for Vendetta. Im looking forward to the next Spiderman movie and the Fantastic Four as well. The previews looked awsome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    I like the comic book, action movies like X-Men, Spiderman and V for Vendetta. Im looking forward to the next Spiderman movie and the Fantastic Four as well. The previews looked awsome.
    I used to think like this, but I've learned that it has become a dissapointing setback. In the modern society, movies have become major events for the average individual by providing an exciting moment to look forward to in the future, I've learned that you can achieve the same result through other means at this very moment and retain similar amounts of euphoria.
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    yeah dude, movies suck. I'll quote an old man who watched an entire football game. He is responding to the question, 'how was the game?' He said, 'That's too long to sit!' Movies are the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    Im looking forward to the next Spiderman movie and the Fantastic Four as well. The previews looked awsome.
    The first Fantastic Four was awful.

    As I mentioned elsewhere, Jeniffer Connely's character in Blood Diamond is a good example of an ENFp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    Im looking forward to the next Spiderman movie and the Fantastic Four as well. The previews looked awsome.
    The first Fantastic Four was awful.

    As I mentioned elsewhere, Jeniffer Connely's character in Blood Diamond is a good example of an ENFp.
    I watched fantastic four on satellite tv about 2 hours ago. I thought it was average.

    Blood Diamond is a good movie. God i used to have a crush on Jennifer Connely when she was in Labyrinth
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemex
    ENFp:

    The Pursuit of Happiness.
    I thought the same too! There is a thread a short ways back about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    What types would you say are in the movie The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? I just saw that again and its one of my favorite movies. The guy seems IXTP and the girl seems EXFP (well maybe). They both are somewhat unhealthy but it does underscore some main points about their types. I love the way it was filmed.
    You know, I got that kind of impression. I thought it was more likely INTp-ENFp.

    The most obvious movie example of ISTp-ENFp duality I have seen is in Bound, a movie by the Wachowski brothers (who directed the Matrix).

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    Ha. I recently watched a crappy 70s movie "S*P*Y*S", in which Donald Sutherland played an ENFp, and Elliott Gould played an ISTp. I think Sutherland is an ENFp himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler
    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    I like the comic book, action movies like X-Men, Spiderman and V for Vendetta. Im looking forward to the next Spiderman movie and the Fantastic Four as well. The previews looked awsome.
    I used to think like this, but I've learned that it has become a dissapointing setback. In the modern society, movies have become major events for the average individual by providing an exciting moment to look forward to in the future, I've learned that you can achieve the same result through other means at this very moment and retain similar amounts of euphoria.
    . What did you have in mind? I dont do drugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler
    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    I like the comic book, action movies like X-Men, Spiderman and V for Vendetta. Im looking forward to the next Spiderman movie and the Fantastic Four as well. The previews looked awsome.
    I used to think like this, but I've learned that it has become a dissapointing setback. In the modern society, movies have become major events for the average individual by providing an exciting moment to look forward to in the future, I've learned that you can achieve the same result through other means at this very moment and retain similar amounts of euphoria.
    . What did you have in mind? I dont do drugs
    LOL, I wasn't talking about drugs, but alternatives. You can always look up a major event going on in your city that will be less stale and fresh because it something you have not experienced. Also a good alternative is to read about an interesting movie that is 10 years old and pretend that it is coming out in one week, then watch it with enthusiasm at your house as if it was just released. :wink:
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    Eternal Sunshine is an SEI and LII.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    I thought activity worked: they were immediately drawn to each other, but in the end, there were just some things they couldn't see eye-to-eye on. This usually makes me think Activity or Super-Ego.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    Eternal Sunshine is an SEI and LII.
    above i meant to say semi-duality (of the sorts) for Enternal Sunshine, darn typos.

    i can actually see SEI for the girl Gilly, the relation doesn't seem to be activity however.
    Though I dont know many SEIs I dont see the female in this film fitting that type. She was too assertive IMO. and the guy didnt seem LII either. Both seemed irrational. I would suggest ESTP and INTP perhaps.

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    intp-- esfp is more likely. She was hyper aggression person who makes bad decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    dont see the female in this film fitting that type. She was too assertive IMO.
    Agreed. Though I could see INTj for the guy.

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    example of this couple:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=dF075uZDGS4
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    haha. It really annoyed my how they handled that hat situation, it was extremely rude. I went to the cricket and some guys sat in front of us with these giant hats, i couldn't believe people could be so rude.

    That did seem like a good example, i would certianlly know to hide that i have no idea in a situaition like that but it was a movie. Poor bloke
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    I agree about the hat thing being awkward. I think it was suppose to be funny that she didn't notice about the hat, but yeah it made me feel weird also...

    This is really interesting as I hadn't realized Katharine Hepburn was an ENFP. I wonder which subtype she was, as she can be kind of rough around the edges.

    I think it's a cute clip though and I like how he is trying to calmly explain the baseball rules in the midst of everything else.
    Hi! I'm an ENFP. :-)

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    I always thought Hepburn was a cutie.

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    Wow... I genuinely enjoyed that whole segment.

    Thanks Discojoe.
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    np

    Um... What um... What th.... What the hell do you think is wrong with these people?
    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    np



    lmao
    That's exactly the sentence that made the sit up and pay attention.

    Finally, someone who wonders WHY THE FUCK EVERYONE LUMPS ALL THESE SEPARATE ISSUES INTO ONE BIG FUCKING "GO GREEN" CAMPAIGN.


    Goddamn guilt ridden yuppies.
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    Okay, if you want to decrease the amount of waste on this planet, don't produce such ridiculous articles as biodegradable fanny packs and hand them out en masse.

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    Wow, they both seem like enormous cock jobs to me. Some fair points, but a lot of total bullshit and really poorly done sarcasm/mockery. I give it a solid 2.5/10.

    Not sure about SLI/IEE, though.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Wow, they both seem like enormous cock jobs to me.
    Lol. Pretty much my thoughts exactly. Couldn't make it through the whole video. Not sure what's supposed to be so interesting about their interaction.

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    I think Glenn Beck is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    I think Glenn Beck is hilarious.
    I agree.
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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Here's a video highlighting SLI/IEE failed relationship:



    Sometimes the SLI feels like he's just worlds apart from the IEE, like he's just dirt, downtrodden, nothing at all. Nobody recognizes him, loves him, or notices him... and he believes that the IEE should treat him that way too because she's just too good. Like an angel (especially Fi-subtype lol).

    Because he considers his inability to provide for her, to give her the world and all that she would desire (or he think she wants... not knowing that all she wants is him), he refuses to pursue the relationship... for her sake.

    He does not know that he is her entire world, and that she really isn't an angel; she's just a curious soul searching for a precious gem not yet washed, cut, and shined...
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
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    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
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    "Yes, it will be done."


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    Ryan Gosling - IEE/ILE
    Michelle Williams - SLI

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    @Suedehead Not sure about the guy but the girl definitely seems like SLI to me. I especially liked her joke, it's something I'd find funny.





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    I agree this is also how I view SLI/IEE, suede, nice find. Michelle most definitely plays an SLI. Maybe she is one in real life as well? Could explain her happy relationship with Heath Ledger, an IEE.

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    1995's Casper the Friendly Ghost
    Casper - IEE
    Kathleen Harvey - SLI

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    Hey thats a good one, Qaellech!

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