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    Die Antwoord music sometimes get associated with beta more specifically with SLE/IEI, but I think Yolandi Visser is SLI-Si, has a cute voice(human feature) and very cute Si innotation and Si body language. She generally doesnt speak much on interviews, so I have shared a music video:


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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    Die Antwoord music sometimes get associated with beta more specifically with SLE/IEI, but I think Yolandi Visser is SLI-Si, has a cute voice(human feature) and very cute Si innotation and Si body language. She generally doesnt speak much on interviews, so I have shared a music video:


    she is an IEI. her musical themes are way too focused on symbolism, violence etc.
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    she is an IEI. her musical themes are way too focused on symbolism, violence etc.
    I agree that their themes are focused on symbolism and violence. That's why I said it is generally associated with beta(SLE/IEI). I know some people would disagree. However, she seems like a sensor to me. On another note, I dont find their symbolism sophisticated enough but I also know that someone can be Ni ego and may not use too sophisticated symbolism in their art. I think she is cute but in a Si way, I dont see her Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    I agree that their themes are focused on symbolism and violence. That's why I said it is generally associated with beta(SLE/IEI). I know some people would disagree. However, she seems like a sensor to me. On another note, I dont find their symbolism sophisticated enough but I also know that someone can be Ni ego and may not use too sophisticated symbolism in their art. I think she is cute but in a Si way, I dont see her Fe.

    I find it really hard to see Si-Te in her

    https://i.imgur.com/MwnUzPS.jpg
    https://dianatrees.files.wordpress.c.../01/angel2.jpg
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/59...1aa3602c84.png
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/34/b7...62086d82e2.jpg

    she clearly focuses on her imagination, probably has a very high focus on Ni far removed from reality. I fail to see how she is a pragmatic sensing type.
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    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I find it really hard to see Si-Te in her

    https://i.imgur.com/MwnUzPS.jpg
    https://dianatrees.files.wordpress.c.../01/angel2.jpg
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/59...1aa3602c84.png
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/34/b7...62086d82e2.jpg

    she clearly focuses on her imagination, probably has a very high focus on Ni far removed from reality. I fail to see how she is a pragmatic sensing type.
    I agree that pictures you shared indicates Ni, I dont think there is SiTe on those pictures. However, she isn't necessarily the one who is doing that, creating that, but surely she can be in the decision making process, it can be partially her choice to go with that route. Although as a band, I think Die Antwoord is more beta like, I disregarded that when I was typing her because that could be their marketing strategy and could be a result of their culture/environment (South Africa).

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    I agree that pictures you shared indicates Ni, I dont think there is SiTe on those pictures. However, she isn't necessarily the one who is doing that, creating that, but surely she can be in the decision making process, it can be partially her choice to go with that route. Although as a band, I think Die Antwoord is more beta like, I disregarded that when I was typing her because that could be their marketing strategy and could be a result of their culture/environment (South Africa).
    I think a common trait for IEI is that they absolutely want to have full control of their artistic pursuits and I personally doubt that other people are doing stuff for her. I found the band through an IEI who really loves yolandi. she was very happy when I told her they have the same type, but I personally don't like their music. don't feel like researching them again to prove my point so that's all I can say about her type I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ung-s-subjects

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    she is an IEI. her musical themes are way too focused on symbolism, violence etc.
    Yeah. They think she is SLI because of the superego imo. Reminds me of IEI Aurora.

    Listen to the calls she had with some Ben dude, he wanted them to apologize for hers and that crackhead Ninja's behavior over bullying some girl. She reeks of that Fe creative victim bs. No fucking way she is Fe polr. She knows how to control the emotional atmosphere. She also made up bullshit over obvious shit, she shits on Te evidence and tries to twist everything in her favour even if it doesn't make sense (Te polr).

    EDIT: here's the link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eq_bkNZzQc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr PissBender View Post
    Yeah. They think she is SLI because of the superego imo. Reminds me of IEI Aurora.

    Listen to the calls she had with some Ben dude, he wanted them to apologize for hers and that crackhead Ninja's behavior over bullying some girl. She reeks of that Fe creative victim bs. No fucking way she is Fe polr. She knows how to control the emotional atmosphere. She also made up bullshit over obvious shit, she shits on Te evidence and tries to twist everything in her favour even if it doesn't make sense (Te polr).

    EDIT: here's the link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eq_bkNZzQc
    I agree that Aurora is an IEI, but I don't think I can watch this video. don't enjoy seeing people having arguments with each other. guess it's role Fi. I usually just leave a place if people do that irl.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I agree that Aurora is an IEI, but I don't think I can watch this video. don't enjoy seeing people having arguments with each other. guess it's role Fi. I usually just leave a place if people do that irl.
    I'd say it is your Se polr. I am Fi creative and no way in hell I have issues with that, clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr PissBender View Post
    I'd say it is your Se polr. I am Fi creative and no way in hell I have issues with that, clearly.
    a couple of days ago two friends got in an argument about something while I was standing around and one of them started lecturing the other and I was just like "ok I'm out" and just left without saying anything to them. maybe it's also suggestive Fe since I mostly prefer positive emotions dunno it's a really strong characteristic of me. I also don't like to listen to other people's relationship problems.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    a couple of days ago two friends got in an argument about something while I was standing around and one of them started lecturing the other and I was just like "ok I'm out" and just left without saying anything to them. maybe it's also suggestive Fe since I mostly prefer positive emotions dunno it's a really strong characteristic of me. I also don't like to listen to other people's relationship problems.
    Yeah. Sounds like that. I love the shit talk. Me and my SLI bestfriend are often taking the piss on others lol. An ESE-LII worst nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    Die Antwoord music sometimes get associated with beta more specifically with SLE/IEI, but I think Yolandi Visser is SLI-Si, has a cute voice(human feature) and very cute Si innotation and Si body language. She generally doesnt speak much on interviews, so I have shared a music video:

    I see what you mean. More needs to explored here. Ip at any rate.

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