LSE/ESTj Subtypes - discussion and examples

[jewels]

I know a few. I like them, but they can sometimes be a little crude with their humor or odd with excessive Si like too much drinking or eating, or awful sexual jokes for my taste. These guys might just be like that though, and it may not have anything to do with them being Si.

I know that the Te subtype can be strict and demanding, but I have not met any really bad ones yet.

Interesting. I knew one with the bad qualities of both of the subtypes you mentioned...so not sure if he was Si or Te. But as far as the "strict and demanding" part, there's this funny thing where we both know (as an ENFP) it's not going to work on me. Sometimes I'd play along, sometimes not. But it was sort of amusing more than anything. But then again, I've never had an ESTJ boss...so not sure how that would work.

I do know another ESTJ who never makes sexual jokes, etc and has a lot of tact. Prob individual differences...

ESTJs are usually lots of fun though.

[UDP]

Just about anyone who knows me when I'm "not at work" knows I make tons of sexual jokes. There are a number of people here that can attest to that. But at work? Not at all. It depends on the setting and what we're trying to do, and how comfortable or not I am with you.

[UDP]

-- or how tired I am

[munenori2]

Work is the last place I want to hear sexual jokes, lol
ESTjs do that a lot, huh?

Not so much in my experience, though one of them finds joy in flatulence. It runs in the family as this ESTj is from the stock of a particularly legendary gasmaster. Using clever tactics and rules of thumb to diffuse the chance of detection, unsuspecting coworkers or passerby have often been ambushed whilst the composed perpetrator slips away unnoticed. When regaling family with the tales of such grand exploits, the ESTj approaches the closest real life approximation I've seen of ROFLMAO. I don't think this is type-related, but I thought I'd share.

[eunice]

they can sometimes be a little crude with their humor or odd with excessive Si like too much drinking or eating, or awful sexual jokes for my taste.

Wow. I am the complete opposite. Sometimes I wish that I have the capacity to drink more. I think sexual jokes can be tolerated as long as they are not derogatory towards women.

[Christy B]

Wow. I am the complete opposite. Sometimes I wish that I have the capacity to drink more. I think sexual jokes can be tolerated as long as they are not derogatory towards women.

With one guy the jokes are always derogatory. I don't mind them THAT much, especially because it lets me bring out my Fi, but it gets boring when it is ALL THE TIME and no one can say anything without it turning into a sexual or racist joke. He is so predictable it is ridiculous.

He also has to touch everyone's ass, which actually can be funny when a girl gets pissed. He is really good looking though so usually girls don't mind. He will also hook up with anyone. I mean he's been with hundreds of girls NO JOKE.

Anyway, I have known him for so long that I really do love him in spite of the fact that he frustrates me sometimes. Having said all that I guess he is pretty cool and I do feel some comfort from a dual interaction when I am around him.

Edit:

Another Si subtype is the father of a good friend I have known for most of my life. He is a total alcoholic, so much so that he doesn't work at all. His wife cooks, cleans, and works and raised the kids while he helped with very little. (This is probably just him and I know there are unhealthy people of all types.) He spent most of his time in Si indulgent states, getting massages, playing golf, going out to dinner, having parties, watching sports, taking pills and drinking.

I know another Si subtype who is really cool, smart, nice, and funny. I don't like that he says he loves his girlfriend and then cheats on her all the time (with lame girls). He just likes hooking up with different girls so he does it.

From what I can remember these are the only Si subtypes I have known well.