Originally Posted by
FDG
Originally Posted by
Expat
Originally Posted by
FDG
Because I have something psychological against it that makes me think it's full of cutthroat, fake, unstrusteable, petty, closed off and unreccomendable people with whom I have generally nothing to share and that like you only for the connections you can provide them. Ok, shallow judgement and all that, but I can recognize that kind of people even now in university forming their cobwebs I try to stay away from.
That sounds like
to me.
From my perispective....it sounds like alpha quadra values, stereotypically.
Yeah but generally it sounds like a distaste for
. Actually people i know who dislike "business people" the most for the reason you wrote are I*Fps though i know ENFjs who come across as very business like (Even when not in work settings). I guess it's the good old case where different functions have different ways of liking/disliking the same things. It seems to lead to the fact that people notice more easily how other functions (Than the ones in their quadra values) appreciate the things they don't appreciate themselves. That's why i think one of the best way of writing socionics material is by comparing every function/type using the same "parameters"(Couldn't find a better word) so that the answers to "What does X mean to this type?" style questions are far less confusing.
Originally Posted by
FDG
Anyway the test is good and is also fun because it's not just about putting crosses but also about describing yourself
There's still a risk of not interpreting what the person wanted to communicate correctly, more precisely, every little hidden, personnal motive behind preferences, and what exactly the preferences makes them feel inside. If someone says he likes to go at the beach, he might have been clearer if he said he likes to lie on the hot sand or that he likes to swim and play water sports or that he likes to meet people there because the mood is friendly.
The dislike for business people above is a good example actually, because as Expat noted, your reasoning can sound like
but it can also sound like an Alpha quadra value of simplicity between people or simply like a distaste for
(E*Tjs i know are "famous" for uttering the importance of building a web of contacts. One has a list of people he has to call every week or so). It could also come across like a distaste for
as E*Fjs attitude towards success and motivation includes giving yourself the impression that since you really want to succeed and be positive, you should be ready to use good strategies to reach success even if it means having shallow contacts with people. It's all about where one comes from. I might be wrong and maybe often everything could be sumed up by only one function but still it doesn't mean any motive to use said function doesn't come from another one, such as the motivated E*Fj who feels positive when he's ready to use
for his own success.
I still agree this kind of test has great potential to give accurate results but it requires a large amount of work, time and introspection ability from the taker to make it be almost bulletproof.