HOW THE FUCK CAN SOMEONE SEEM PHYSICALLY PRESENT ON A FORUM.Originally Posted by Radio
HOW THE FUCK CAN SOMEONE SEEM PHYSICALLY PRESENT ON A FORUM.
Irony.
The end is nigh
ok well I had a nice revelation today. I work at a bank and its a really easy going job, but I'm starting to get really frustrated and stressed out because of all the rules. I can't remember rules for shit. I have a droid X2 with a million alarms set so I don't have to remember rules or when its time to go do things.
At work its like, "if you're caught on your cell phone you'll be fired." "if you fall asleep you'll be fired." "if you're late you'll be fired" "don't let a supervisor catch you out in the hallway at this time doing this or that politics politics blah blah" I was going crazy this afternoon. I think my boss is catching on. She's very by the book but she keeps assuring me the team is easy going etc. I think she's catching on. I'm freaking out over all these rules. I quit the navy because of all the rules. I once lost a month of vacation because I forgot to call in at 8 in the morning one day. I was near suicidal over all these fucking rules I have to follow, and its starting to happen all over again. I'm not a coffee drinker, but now I am because it keep me awake. I have no idea when I'm falling asleep, it just seems to happen even if I think I can fight through it (I can't). Just yesterday I left a tray of fish fillets on the stove, I turned the stove on, then went to bed. I left the stove on overnight and the fish fillets out because I forgot to eat dinner. If I can't remember to eat dinner, how can I remember to stay awake? Things like this. I'm a drifty space case.
Anyway if SLE's are this inept when it comes to remembering rules and regulations then I might remain SLE. I like to look good and I consider myself pretty attractive but sometimes I'll forget to brush my teeth, or I'll forget to shave etc. And aren't LSI's the reason my life sucks so hard right now? haha. People keep telling me LSI but I don't buy it. WAY too rigid.
Here's a pic:
chris evans (whatever type he is I think I'm the same)
Last edited by Azure Flame; 05-19-2012 at 08:35 AM.
ILEs are "intelligent", SLEs are "smart"
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
--> perhaps Normalizing
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
BTW, I just remembered some fictional ILE/SLE friends: Ted Mosby (ILE) and Barney Stinson (SLE); Ted is more idealistic, Barney is more realistic.
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
That sounds like multiple personality disorder.
I feel like you got them backwards. Ted seems very pushy and strong willed while Barney is all witty and clever and intellectual. (according to the two seconds of top result youtube footage I watched)
Last edited by Azure Flame; 05-19-2012 at 08:17 AM.
Se =/= pushiness
Se =/= will
Any type can be pushy and willful, it'll just come out different. If you're gonna go that route, look at the "how".
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HOW CAN YOU SQUEEZE YOURSELF IN A VIDEO AND POST IT ON FORUM, I'M MERCUTIO AND I DON'T KNOW.
Makes sense, because you are IEE. Search the forum, my explanation about you should be somewhere.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
so what exactly makes you Ne valuing over Se valuing? how does Ne base manifest for you?
one that cannot be put into words? -.-
what do you mean by this "deactivation"? could you describe some real life manifestation of this?
originally what made you think you're SLE and not ILE?
I can't keep the Se up for longer periods of time. In all fairness I'm quite 8ish. Buuut as long as I am breathing I am brainstorming. I grew up in a family of sensors - probably has something to do with it.
what do you call "longer periods of time"?
healthy 5 integrated into 8, as well?
Do you self-type as SLE, ambi? You ask a LOT of questions for a Declaring type, both in forums and the chatbox. :P
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@DJ Arendee: You seem SLE to me, Ti/Fe, irrational>rational ,and I don't see Si or Ne valuing. I'm still new at this so I'm not sure how much clout my typings have, though.
Beta theatrics? :PI was near suicidal over all these fucking rules I have to follow,
No, that was not beta theatrics, those were suicidal thoughts. I've only had the one time in my life and that was while I was in the Navy. I had to quit the navy over it.
Why did I type myself as SLE and not ILE?
Because I do gymnastics, martial arts, I love pretty colors, I'm extremely in tune with my environment. I just figured "sensor" was more likely.
Only reason I don't self type as ILE is because everyone I've met ONLINE tells me I don't value Ne, probably because I don't talk about the complexities of the multiverse or some shit.
Why are INFp's deactivating? Well, actually I probably shouldn't have said that. My absolute best friend is ISFp, and I have a couple INFp friends. One guy in particular is very difficult to get to open up, I can't seem to crack his shell. The ISFp, however, apparently she's really quiet except when she's around me and I make her laugh non-stop really easily, and talking to her seems more natural than most women I've spoken to.
Biggest reason I started questioning if I'm actually an ILE is because this girl keeps talking to me as if I'm a drifty adventurous space case with pack rat tendencies (ENTp pack rats?).
Yes, I do.Do you self-type as SLE, ambi? You ask a LOT of questions for a Declaring type, both in forums and the chatbox.
I don't think the amount of questions in specific situations is what determines a type.
But because you asked, here's how I am: I'm a bit between asking and declaring. I like to do monologues but I like to hear about others things too and I often need to ask questions to get more details about something or to clarify something. With the monologue thing, I check after a while if other party is still listening, because I'd hate to bore anyone, so that makes me more interactive/dialoguing. But I suppose nobody is self-centered to the extent of never trying to interact with the other party in a discussion.
That does sound like more sensor, especially the part about being in tune with the environment. I don't know how well the love of sports correlates with being a sensor, of course there is probably some. I'm addicted to it myself but again, that isn't a definitive argument for sensor vs intuitive. (That's not how I decided on my type.) We definitely share the like for colours too.
Ne is not about talking about the complexities of the multiverse.That's a really shallow interpretation of the function.
I quit something I loved because the rules killed all the joy in it, and made it more stressful than it was worth. I always felt watched, like I was going to inadvertently do something wrong, and it completely clashed with the reason I was doing it, which was freedom and an escape. LSIs aren't about external rules and regulations. That's not Ti, and it's not Ti+Se. I don't think you're LSI, but just wanted to clarify that. This is the first post of yours I've read, so I have no idea what type you are. But describing yourself as "a drifty space case" leans me towards intuitive (or maybe just stressed out - it depends.)
Thanks for clarifying, seemed to me like you were being hyperbolic but if too many rules literally made/are possibly making you suicidal then that sucks. Are you typically a "drifty space case," or is that the result of pushing yourself to the limit with work? Nothing you said about yourself seems directly attributable to Ne-valuing.
Umm, drifty space case might apply only when I'm stressed out, now that you mention it. I daydream a lot if I'm in a really boring environment. If I'm in an awesome environment (like the wilderness, or walking through the city) I become very alert of everything. I was on an expedition for 3 weeks and I became extremely graceful and agile. I was leaping down mountain trails, swinging through trees etc. When I go home and trudge through the daily rat race, this all goes away and I start wishing I were somewhere else.
In analyzing myself while in gymnastics, I strive to achieve "flow state" which is when I no longer think of specific moves, but move fluidly through the environment. Its happened probably twice in my life, but when it does, I become the best of the best at whatever it is I'm doing. My tumbling routine looks like a super fast slinky with an explosive finish (as it should) as opposed to throwing a wooden block down the road and crossing your fingers that it keeps rolling.
If I look out the window, I won't feel very much. I'll just see everything. I'll know everything that's going on. Those are cars, those are mountains, they're going this direction, the sun is over there blah blah, then I see these pretty red bushes in the garden below and I focus entirely on them.
Sometimes decide to imagine running my fingers through the bush and letting the smooth waxy red leaves brush against my hand. It fills me with a complete inner zen. I can do this whenever I want, but I usually have to remind myself to do it. When I was younger I did this with EVERYTHING until it got old. I used to LOVE staring through colorful transparent plastic objects. My hot tub had a red lense cover for the light, I pulled it off and would put it up to my face and the world would turn into a completely different mood. Then I swap to blue lense and the world becomes extremely peaceful.
One of my favorite things to do in the pool was to get a scuba mask and dive to the bottom of the deep end and just stand at the bottom of the pool holding my breath as long as possible, looking up at everyone above me, filled with complete tranquility.
Now that I'm older I don't really experience this zen as often as I used to and I want to experience it some more. These days my life is so hectic as I'm too busy thinking about errands, work, paying the bills, holding my job, where is my life going, us economy, is this girl my conflictor or my dual etc. I'm usually thinking about these things all at once and will spend about a minute thinking about each one. Some days some subjects are higher priority than others.
The reason I think ILE is because I wonder if I have some kind of fetish with Si. It could be a part of enneagram 8w9, but I feel like I have to fight through life to regain my innocence. My friend showed me the movie, "I hope they serve beer in hell" and it just makes me sick to my stomach for some reason, like it messes with my innocence, or my little fantasy utopia or something, where women like you for who you are and no one plays games in relationships (unrealistic yes I know).
Here's a video of me rambling and thinking out loud
Last edited by Azure Flame; 05-21-2012 at 06:38 PM.
That's like me then. Well I don't really daydream in the sense that it's not irrealistic dreaming, I'll just think about whatever goals I currently pursue, etc, but still it's thinking instead of being alert, but then if there's something around that I can pay attention to, I will snap out of the thoughts.
Why did you call walking through the city awesome? Not that I disagree with you, I quite like it myself, especially if I go alone and can walk as fast as I like (many people complain about how fast I walk, heh). So anyway, I'd just like to know what you find awesome about it.
Ahh the flow. I love that, I enter it easily after I get good enough at whatever. Kind of addictive, heh.In analyzing myself while in gymnastics, I strive to achieve "flow state" which is when I no longer think of specific moves, but move fluidly through the environment. Its happened probably twice in my life, but when it does, I become the best of the best at whatever it is I'm doing. My tumbling routine looks like a super fast slinky with an explosive finish (as it should) as opposed to throwing a wooden block down the road and crossing your fingers that it keeps rolling.
Um I think everyone would see these when looking around.If I look out the window, I won't feel very much. I'll just see everything. I'll know everything that's going on. Those are cars, those are mountains, they're going this direction, the sun is over there blah blah, then I see these pretty red bushes in the garden below and I focus entirely on them.In any case I myself like looking out my window because I chose the top floor for my place in this building and so it's really fun looking down/around at the world from high up here.
See, the reason I first thought of dropping ILE typing for myself is that I'm not crazy at all about Si. But I'm not sure what you call Si.The reason I think ILE is because I wonder if I have some kind of fetish with Si. It could be a part of enneagram 8w9, but I feel like I have to fight through life to regain my innocence. My friend showed me the movie, "I hope they serve beer in hell" and it just makes me sick to my stomach for some reason, like it messes with my innocence, or my little fantasy utopia or something, where women like you for who you are and no one plays games in relationships (unrealistic yes I know).
Also, what did you base your typing of the SEI girl on? What do you think is Si about her?
Also what if you are Si ego? That would still have you as a sensor.
Hmm, forget SEI girl, lets talk about my ass.That's like me then. Well I don't really daydream in the sense that it's not irrealistic dreaming, I'll just think about whatever goals I currently pursue, etc, but still it's thinking instead of being alert, but then if there's something around that I can pay attention to, I will snap out of the thoughts.
Why did you call walking through the city awesome? Not that I disagree with you, I quite like it myself, especially if I go alone and can walk as fast as I like (many people complain about how fast I walk, heh). So anyway, I'd just like to know what you find awesome about it.
Ahh the flow. I love that, I enter it easily after I get good enough at whatever. Kind of addictive, heh.
Um I think everyone would see these when looking around.
See, the reason I first thought of dropping ILE typing for myself is that I'm not crazy at all about Si. But I'm not sure what you call Si.
Also, what did you base your typing of the SEI girl on? What do you think is Si about her?
Also what if you are Si ego? That would still have you as a sensor.
So did my pictures and the video I posted reveal anything?
I'm an enneagram 8, someone mentioned that could be messing with things. Aren't 8's into physical awareness or some shit?
As for the whole "demanding respect" thing, I can give people that look whenever I want. But I don't really care enough. I only give it when respect needs hath be given.
As for Si ego, um... I don't get frustrated when my aesthetic balance is disturbed. Not at all. In fact, If I'm bored, I'll walk into someone's room while they're doing homework, touch their head, grab their pencil throw it across the room, fling their paper off their desk, fart loudly, belch, then blow my nose on one of their tissues, throw it on the floor, then walk out as if nothing happened (its a big joke). So in this sense, I like to disrupt people's tranquility if I'm really really bored.
I would murder you.
OK, forget Si. You are obviously a sensor based on what you said so far, and based on this, not Si. Logical too. I see no reason to doubt SLE.
I still want to know about that SEI girl though
uhh, I have no idea what she is. that was infatuation talking. "omg she's my dual I'm in love yay" I'm actually thinking she's ESI because she looks a lot like madeline zima on the socionix gallery here: http://gallery.socionix.com/Gamma/Fi-ISFj/Zima/ . But I don't fully agree with ashton's typings so its hard to say what she is.
She's quiet, she's a hard worker, her eyes seem closed off to the world. She listens to armin van buuren and most of the same trance I listen to. She likes stability in life, she's terrified of uncertain adventure. She's a little anxious. She's super flirty when she opens up. Uh...
she asks me a bunch of judgemental questions:
her: are you a one-upper? I don't like those.
me: I had a friend on my buddy list who used to do that, it pissed me off.
me: my cell phone is always dead when I go off into the mountains to do things. So if I get stranded I have no clue what could happen.
her: you probably just love the adventure so you never charge your cell phone. I would be terrified.
me: uhh... well I don't charge my phone because I forget to. But I do like adventure...
She likes to talk a lot of trash and always has some witty comeback. The other day when I got her phone number I typed in her name and said, "is this how you spell your name?" (she looked down and it read "huge bitch") and she burst out laughing.
Another time I texted her, "hey its dj, this is my number. eat shit." She had a look on her face I couldn't interpret. It was simultaneously big eyed, shocked, saddened by what kind of person I am, and infatuated all at the same time? "I thought you cleaned up your sailor mouth." she said. A few minute later I walked up to her like, "you know I was just teasing you right?" she said, "yeah I was just messing with you" ???
So anyway that's who she is. She's confusing as hell. The other day I told her I like her and she's fun to hang around but if she wants to be more than that its really up to her at this point because I've already asked her out like 5 times. We still hang out at the bars and whatnot. Her friend was telling me how she told her all the funny stories I tell or something. Her friend and I talked all last night, and I'm having difficulty understanding if she was also flirting with me or whatever the fuck is going on.
Last edited by Azure Flame; 05-26-2012 at 11:42 PM.
lol, I only do it to people who stand no chance of fighting back, like INFp's.
One is strategic the other is tactical; if you're concerned about yourself, you are strategic
http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Strategic
Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
hmm, strategic... interesting. That does sound like me.
When I see a goal, I become a freight train until its done.
When you see a goal, you do it right?
You said you don't like to play games when you see a girl you want; that would be methods unsettled.
God help me.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Is that really a stronger argument against the load of stuff he kept typing out in this thread about his sensory shit?
Agree
DJ, both ENTp and ESTp can use Ne and Se just like ESFp and ENFp can use Ne and Se; because those are role functions.
The difference is which mode is one in naturally. I can use my Ti to start categorizing info and making rules to define categories, but I get too tired of doing this activity. I LEAN towards my feelings/ideals about things. I'm technically doing Ti now by saying "the difference is" and trying to tease apart the differences; it's something I can do, I just don't want to.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
The way he described it sounded like it's basically his core. Because it was all he talked about.
Well, I daydream a lot too. I have all these project ideas I want to do. I want to one day own a monstery on top of a mountain, I want to build a geodesic dome home with a river flowing through it where I can walk barefoot etc. And when I'm put in a team I usually have an idea of where the team should go immediately. But daydreaming only goes so far these days, I'm running out of things to daydream about. I used to daydream about standing on other planets etc but I seriously have run out of things to think about. So now all I do is just... real life shit.
Strategic. Who said only some types day dream?
Focus on goals (where you want the team to to go). That's like zapping your mind into the future idealized state and wanting the team to work there, that's manipulating the goal to get there. You don't say how the team is getting there. Tactics are subordinate to the concepts of Strategy. Because if you're in a battle, you have a battle field, you have a high field occupied by enemy, you say "if we can take the high ground" use tactics to get there. The problem is that Strategy and Tactics are kinda similar to be opposed to each other and we, Socionics, is trying to tease them apart. That's hard.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
This is still Se > Ne. You run out of things to think of, you can't be Ne base especially if all you do instead is "real life shit".
Also, you are focused on your goals. (Both Se and strategic, tbh I cannot really imagine how someone can be "tactical" in terms of reinin, but then that's because I'm a strategic type too.)
And yea, daydreaming is Not Type Related.
Active Ne takes one idea and another idea and asks can this other idea occur (because of the question of possibility).
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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