Wow, Maritsa, I think I agree with all of this because it made me think of SEEs I know. But I will break it down a bit:
I see my EII sis-in-law as able to accomplish very amazing things, too, also my EII friend. BOTH are much better than me at drawing boundaries, watching and guarding their own energy levels. They know right away whether a thing is "their concern" or not and are much better than me at putting aside things that get in the way of things that ARE their business.
Are you saying your accomplishments often come from EII willpower, and the following explains how SEE gets things done?
I have seen SEEs accomplish this.
Yes! And it seems aggressive to me at times, particularly when I am not being understood and my perspective is ignored. However, its also admirable about SEE's that they understand their own experience so well. It is a gift.
Note to self: Stop trying to get any SEEs to see my perspective. Or at least save it for that one very important thing that might come up!
Yes, the IEEs I know are good at this and make me feel validated and understood.
And something about me and being IEE really, really is adverse to this. It feels like my freedom of thought is being trampled upon and this I do want to defend and will. And since I experienced this some with my ex, when I get this from SEE I just want to get out of their presence. Or change the subject!
I definitely feel understood by you in that way and also with my other EII friends. Its one of the things I value about the EIIs I know.
Probably Obstinacy is the obstacle with me and SEE. "Ideas are 'sacred', but resources are freely shared and manipulated." Both the SEE and IEE are Obstinates, so both subscribe to that. So what do you do when SEE and IEE are having opposite ideas? Probably, at least according to what you said here, you will see a lot of SEE trying to impose their idea on IEE, and IEE trying fiercely to defend theirs, and never the twain shall meet. IEE wants to get along, so will keep trying to change or drop the subject, or agree to disagree without further discussion. Plus IEE will be horrified when efforts to make peace are misjudged...
The SEEs I know IRL will declare ideas and beliefs that I am completely in disagreement with and I could make a very good argument. But I say nothing of my opposing opinions because instinct tells me they don't want to hear it. If they are pressing a point, looking for my agreement I will just say, "I don't believe that." That way its open for them to say, "What do
you believe?" And they never ask! Its okay; peaceful relations remain, and that's what I want. I want to appreciate people for what they can give, for who they are, not for a particular thing I want from them.
YES!!! Se ego are SO reactive. I have seen this in ALL these SEEs I know in real life and some online - because even online personality comes through very strong. And when SEE has a dramatic reaction to it, don't even think about trying to talk them out of it! Better not. Though, with the real life SEEs I know, when they reacted and were clearly wrong, I did see the lightbulb go off when presented with clear reason. Though I never woudl have pressed for them to admit it. Because all that drama tells me top step back and let them be.
(My real-life SEEs and I are getting along great these days! Part of that comes from my accepting them for who they are, including their having high-drama reactions to things, their being free spirits who must do things in their own unique way that may seem rather haphazard or random but does get the job done. And I appreciate the certain sturdiness of SEEs, in spite of the drama bursts.They are capable and intelligent, in spite of a wrong conclusion you could draw of them when they are in a passion over something.)
Sorry for the side-track on SEEs...