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    Quote Originally Posted by nifl View Post
    make a typing thread + video, for there may still be hope that this would not be an act of treachery
    What is that supposed to mean?

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    Love is a bourgeois construct is a song.

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    I've been taking my time for a long time
    Putting my feet up a lot
    Speaking English as a foreign language
    Any words that I haven't forgot
    I've been thinking how I can't be bothered
    To wash the dishes or remake the bed
    What's the point when I could doss instead?

    I've been hanging out with various riff-raff
    Somewhere on the Goldhawk road
    I don't think it's gonna be much longer
    'Til I'm mugging up on the penal code
    Love is a bourgeois construct
    So I've given up the bourgeoisie
    Like all their aspirations, it's a fantasy

    When you walked out, you did me a favour
    You made me see reality
    That love is a bourgeois construct
    It's a blatant fallacy
    You won't see me with a bunch of roses
    Promising fidelity
    Love doesn't mean a thing to me

    Talking tough and feeling bitter
    But better now it's clear to me
    That love is a bourgeois construct
    So I've given up the bourgeoisie

    Bourgeois, bourgeoisie

    While the bankers all get their bonuses
    I'll just get along with what I've got
    Watching the weeds in the garden
    Putting my feet up a lot
    I'll explore the outer limits of boredom
    Moaning periodically
    Just a full-time lonely layabout, that's me

    When you walked out you did me a favour
    It's absolutely clear to me
    That love is a bourgeois construct
    Just like they said at university
    I'll be taking my time for a long time
    With all the schadenfreude it's cost
    Calculating what you've lost

    Now I'm digging through my student paperbacks
    Flicking through Karl Marx again
    Searching for the soul of England
    Drinking tea like Tony Benn
    Love is just a bourgeois construct
    So I'm giving up the bourgeoisie
    Until you come back to me

    Bourgeois, bourgeoisie
    Bourgeois, bourgeoisie
    Bourgeois, bourgeoisie
    Bourgeois, bourgeoisie
    Bourgeois, bourgeoisie
    Bourgeois, bourgeoisie

    Talking tough and feeling bitter
    But better now it's clear to me
    That love is a bourgeois construct
    So I've given up the bourgeoisie

    This can be the 16t theme song, even if I don't hate the site, because it's just funny.

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    I found our Yuri Bezmenov to go with out @yurijesus.

    There's someone else with a more serious interest in this I could tag now but I'm not going to.

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    "Love is a Bourgeois Construct" ft. Yuri Yuri Bezmenov

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    Birdbrain Q&A

    Q: Why is your username Birdbrain?
    A: When I was influenced by Ruben Sim and some users on this forum, I was on a jihad against furries, even though I used to not really care at all. Then I had someone talk me out of going on a jihad against furries and I went back to not caring, except I wanted to joke I was a furry despite not being in the furry fandom. Since the person showed me a video with furries vs. space marines, I thought about furry space marines and then I thought about the one I had with the bird helmet that's a Thousand Sons exalted sorcerer and I called myself Birdbrain after the bird helmet space marine because I thought that was hilarious.





    Q: Is Mutant in chief a reference to Charles Xavier?
    A: Mutant in chief is a reference to the video above, which is largely how I got banned for a month from 16t. Since I decided there must be a truce with the furries, I called everyone on the site a furry and I called myself the arch-furry even though I'm sure that's cultural appropriation since I'm not in the furry fandom even if I do think everyone is a furry sometimes whether they admit it or not. I also posted mu4's real name, which is how I got banned for a month, and why people are confused since the original post is long gone. Since I'm no longer on a jihad against pop culture, I'll take that interpretation of mutant in chief too though.



    "Furies! It's supposed to say no truce with the furies! The furries are fine!"

    Q: What's Cyberbird about?
    A: [Socionics] Interview with Aleksandr Bukalov and Olga Karpenko (International Institute of Socionics) (the16types.info)
    As you can see, my discussion on Soviet-era cybernetics research as one of the most interesting and informative aspects of socionics has degenerated into everyone except me bickering with Alive over unrelated topics, which is why I'm strongly considering not spending any more time on this site unless more people actually decide to engage me constructively instead of consistently turning my threads into sites for their spats. However, talking like that won't help me, much less them. The North Wind and the Sun.

    Q: The North Wind and the Sun?
    A: 16types Adventures: mu4 and the Bourgoisie Social Construct (the16types.info)

    Q: Do you really believe you have mind powers?
    A: I shall put on my hipster hat and say, it's not just like powers, it's way more sophisticated than that, you wouldn't understand, have you even read the rest of this thread like the David Bohm and Rupert Sheldrake article. The simple answer, however, would just be yes.

    Q: What do some of these people have against you? They're sitting there with tarot cards, astrology charts, and spells, they can't be against you for saying you're telepathic, so there must be more to this.
    A: You're right. I used to also be on a jihad against 16t, since I was on a jihad against basically everything. This is why I posted information like mu4's real name among other things. I did a lot of things to tick off literally everyone who wasn't me. Then during my one month of being banned I came to an understanding of how 16t works even though I don't feel like I can really discuss it, and I posted a thread in honor of mu4 even though I still think he's a tankie and love isn't a bourgeois construct.

    Q: Why did you get rebanned?
    A: I brought up the first user who got banned for sending a softcore pornographic image of Santa Claus to an underage forum member before I got unbanned and this got me rebanned even though it was an old event. I was responsible for him getting banned because I was trying to teach everyone the true meaning of Christmas since I had a change of heart from being Scrooge this Advent and had stopped my war against Christmas. As you can see, I really was on a war against everything. When I was given a Big Five/OCEAN/CANOE test, my agreeableness score was literally 1% out of 100%, which is basically zilch. I hope I've raised that a lot so I'm not just waging war on the entire world all the time. Now I would like to teach everyone the true meaning of 16t, but that's probably confidential information, unlike the true meaning of Christmas, so, drats.

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    Now, if 16ters would talk about ideas instead of talking about each other, that would be great.

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    This forum is just super slow and I don't mean its hardware and software. It's still just almost dead. No discussion really happens here. People just come here to get in fights for counterphobic reasons but they don't do anything or talk about anything. I wish that would change. I don't think I can do anything to change it, and I don't think I should care. It's only a few people to be honest. There's really no reason to be interested. Still keeping my DMs etc. open if anyone wants to talk to me that way but there's still literally nothing that goes on here. If people could change that that would be great. I get the sense people don't understand a word I'm saying and they've also made up their mind not to in advance. I couldn't live with choosing not to understand things, much less choosing not to understand people, but that's how most people are.

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    This site is not important. There's not even anything here worth thinking about other than what I myself have posted. This suits the people here, since they're not particularly interested in thinking. Part of me wants that to change, and if that changes I would gladly stay, but I'm not counting on it.

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    I tried my best and did everything I could and it doesn't matter because this site is dead, and the people who waste their lives on it are undead. If things change I'll be glad to see it, but I'm not going to count on it.

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    Birdbrain vibes like RaptorWizard
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ung-s-subjects

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    Quote Originally Posted by on a peaceful hiatus View Post
    Birdbrain vibes like RaptorWizard
    Do not blaspheme me in my armor. I am your guardian angel.

    If you don't get this despite spending way more of your life on the socionics community than I have you're boring.

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    Remember, kids: Hollywood celebrities are all closet Satanists, but Teal Swan, advocate of suicide and pedophilia, is definitely not a closet Satanist.

    When I went to the store to buy treats, they gave me a complimentary Marvel Avengers water bottle, and I kept it. I am the traitor. HERESY.

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    This whole site is full of very bad vibes. However, I think it doesn't have enough bad vibes, so here are some more bad vibes! #BadVibesOnly, people displaying good vibes shall be escorted off the premises (into the dungeon.)






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    I tried propagating some bamboo from cuttings because I think bamboo is cool (the aesthetic is obviously great, and the sticks are also pretty useful for making various things that you need hollow sticks for) without looking at whether or not you can actually do that. You definitely can. Have you propagated any plants recently? I should probably also try to get some papyrus again now I have better containers for it. I also finally got a tiny watering can today and the blue dye on this is so bright, I feel like I'm looking into the sky or something.

    Have you ever noticed awful people always get things in these gross dusty dirty colors? Depressed people can't appreciate colors and they also intellectualize that it's beneath them. Especially the fedora Redditor types who say colors don't actually exist. Umm, colors exist as frequencies of light, so yes, colors exist and they're important. For example, plants are green because half of all white light is green and by reflecting all the non-green colors, plants can photosynthesize without getting burnt.

    Why are plants green? | ScienceDaily

    My thread is turning into the Aster Petals thread but with way more sci-fi and just real science. Speaking of which, I don't think I've seen her around recently. Good for her!

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    I did a few with hormones placed on the cuttings.

    Red bud tree was one. Not recently though, something i've done in the past.

    Speaking of green, i have recently started a marine reef tank and in the sump part is a lighted bay area with macro algae in it, and it is using the nitrates and phosphates in the tank for nutrients.

    It is also driving down the CO2 in the tank by giving a rise in pH.

    I discovered we are high in carbon dioxide in the house due to the suppressed alkalinity of the seawater. I took a sample outside and it rose to 8.1 from 7.6 in the house.

    For corral growth it needs to be in the lower 8 range.

    A little fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expansion View Post
    I did a few with hormones placed on the cuttings.

    Red bud tree was one. Not recently though, something i've done in the past.

    Speaking of green, i have recently started a marine reef tank and in the sump part is a lighted bay area with macro algae in it, and it is using the nitrates and phosphates in the tank for nutrients.

    It is also driving down the CO2 in the tank by giving a rise in pH.

    I discovered we are high in carbon dioxide in the house due to the suppressed alkalinity of the seawater. I took a sample outside and it rose to 8.1 from 7.6 in the house.

    For corral growth it needs to be in the lower 8 range.

    A little fun.
    Hmm, if the neuroticism level of the forum could be reduced people would probably all be pretty healthy and functional like Aster after all! Or at least, enough for it to be reasonable for me to spend my time here and other high-quality people to spend their time here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbrain View Post
    Hmm, if the neuroticism level of the forum could be reduced people would probably all be pretty healthy and functional like Aster after all! Or at least, enough for it to be reasonable for me to spend my time here and other high-quality people to spend their time here.
    I think some would disagree by her recent badge number: ESE ..... want-to -be

    Anyone wanting to be ESE is absolutely 100 percent neurotic.

    I could recommend a nano reef tank? (like 10 gallon size.)



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    Huge heresy for this forum, which used to have a cult of taking "ashwag:" I like ginseng better than ashwaganda just because ginseng is supposedly a mild stimulant and my personal experience lines up with that. When I'm awake for 8 hours and sleeping for 16 instead of sleeping for 8 and being awake for 16 like I'm supposed to, I don't want something that'll make me even more tired. Though if you get enough caffeine you can cancel out the mild sedative kinds of effects from most herbs, it feels a little nicer to me to just get more stimulants in to begin with, especially if I'm going to go take waterhyssop and lemon balm and get mild sedatives in anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expansion View Post
    I could recommend a nano reef tank? (like 10 gallon size.)
    That might actually be useful information, please post it! I mean, I'm not considering starting a reef currently, but sounds interesting. I was considering trying to start aquaculture but that's probably quite a bit different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbrain View Post
    That might actually be useful information, please post it! I mean, I'm not considering starting a reef currently, but sounds interesting. I was considering trying to start aquaculture but that's probably quite a bit different.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VmmIojwMiY

    This is a 15 size in link above.

    I have a corner tank like here.



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    If I can grow bamboo successfully, I want to use the bamboo and make bee houses. That would be cool. I've also thought bees would like dried out lotus flower husks. This is the zen bee hotel.

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    Home Sweet Home-Providing the Perfect Habitat for Native Bees (thegardendiaries.blog)

    OK, lotus pods are probably not big enough for them to live in, this person appears to have used one as decoration on the bee house though.

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    Seeing the stuff people sell on Etsy always just makes me go like, I should go pick up a bunch of acorns and seed pods randomly off the ground, possibly spray-paint them if that makes them seem fancier, and sell them to people who don't understand how nature works as floral decorations. I see people actually buy those all the time. Like guys, why.

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    Capitalism is a Marxist construct. Where exactly did Adam Smith say "I'm a capitalist?"

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    Scrap the rhetoric. There's no such thing as capitalism | The Independent | The Independent

    Confucius says capitalism doesn't exist. Just kidding, that's not quite what this article actually says.

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    Now I'm digging through Internet forums
    Flicking through Aushra Augustinavichiute again
    Searching for the soul of China
    Drinking tea like Shenzhen
    Love is just a bourgeois construct
    So I'm giving up the bourgeoisie
    I replaced it with duality

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    I know I joked I want bad vibes only but I actually don't want to feel evil and this forum is making me feel evil. It's not very nice. I'm doing what I can about it.

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    I still wish I could meet some of you in a better context, though I'm not going to do anything that people really fear or dread over that either. People I play video games with write academic papers and show them to me, people here, not so much.

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    This site is still making me have reflexes in my nervous system that I don't think other people can have because I think mine is different than theirs, but still, I don't feel inclined to go after people for simply not doing what I wish they would. I think I have fully given up on this site now though, except for checking my DMs, since I've now said everything I have to say about the site's topics and people don't have any constructive responses to it, and usually don't have any responses to it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbrain View Post
    This site is still making me have reflexes in my nervous system that I don't think other people can have because I think mine is different than theirs, but still, I don't feel inclined to go after people for simply not doing what I wish they would. I think I have fully given up on this site now though, except for checking my DMs, since I've now said everything I have to say about the site's topics and people don't have any constructive responses to it, and usually don't have any responses to it at all.
    I think you should take a break from this site for at least a month. you are basically writing the same message over and over again in different threads with a slightly different topic and I'm honestly not sure what you want to achieve with any of it. maybe tell people to write you emails so you don't have to log in to this site. you honestly just keep rambling about stuff that is completely unrelated to socionics most of the time and I don't know how you expect most people to engage with any of it here.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ung-s-subjects

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    Quote Originally Posted by on a peaceful hiatus View Post
    I think you should take a break from this site for at least a month. you are basically writing the same message over and over again in different threads with a slightly different topic and I'm honestly not sure what you want to achieve with any of it. maybe tell people to write you emails so you don't have to log in to this site. you honestly just keep rambling about stuff that is completely unrelated to socionics most of the time and I don't know how you expect most people to engage with any of it here.
    I've already had a break for a month and then I had another one. I'm not going to keep writing that quite as much because I wrote most of what I needed to yesterday but there's a purpose to what I'm doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbrain View Post
    I've already had a break for a month and then I had another one. I'm not going to keep writing that quite as much because I wrote most of what I needed to yesterday but there's a purpose to what I'm doing.
    What's that purpose? Trying to annoy people into leaving the site?

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    I've done everything I can think to do on this forum. I shall now retreat to DMs indefinitely.

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    Regarding an earlier comment where I said I kept an Avengers water bottle, yeah, it's probably bad that Disney bought all the superheroes and even bought the ones Sony owned, which were pretty OK. I just need to accept that I have a staggering amount of work to do on other people as a result of usually being the one person who knows stuff, and even though I tend to feel pretty exhausted much of the time because of that, it'll actually make me less exhausted to teach other people all the stuff I'm cosmically expected to, even if it's work and it'll seem harder short-term. I don't think I have anything else to do here though since I started making people aware of the political implications of manufacturing etc. as well as showing people the true meaning of Christmas is Jesus this Advent. I got people started, I don't think this is the most productive place to spend my energy and now your consciences are all wracked anyway.

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    Ginseng Gintonin Attenuates Lead-Induced Rat Cerebellar Impairments during Gestation and Lactation - PMC (nih.gov)

    If anyone wants any more of the papers I like to save feel free to DM me.

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    I think the Lead Safe Mama lady is too paranoid now, even though I think she has a real point. I think her real point gets distorted by the fact she's selling affiliate links, even though I do think there are unacceptable levels of heavy metals in lots of consumer products, including ones that are widely considered to be reputable (most people are often wrong about many things.) It's probably better to learn about the topic from more official sources (e.g., academic types of ones, not her or Snopes) once your awareness is raised. I mentioned academic types of sources but that means learning the basic principles, since not everything ever will be individually tested and I really don't think that's necessary based on my knowledge either.

    I mention that because I linked her in another thread and DMs here. The thing is, all her affiliate links are basically things that are only reasonable to buy if you want to live her lifestyle which is very specific, and she seems to tell people not to take supplements (including vitamins) at all which I think is ridiculous. You are not getting sufficient nutrition without supplements and modern farming works by... feeding plants and animals supplements, so you get even more potential toxic byproducts than if you just took them yourself. Is she living on a sustenance farm in the 1800s? Not the world I want to live in even if lots of dishes, rock salt, cheap awful supplements, etc. really are underregulated.

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    California Could Ban Skittles And Sour Patch Kids As New Bill Looks To Stop Use Of Cancer-Linked Food Additives (foodbeast.com)

    Here's a concrete example. These probably are terrible additives even if it's California. I have way more evidence that certain other things like aspartame, MSG, and trans fats are bad, which are also common consensus of scientists despite still being allowed in foods in America. But is the alternative to live on a sustenance farm in the 1800s? No, the whole point of taking care of your health is, as always, so you ultimately get to have a spaceship in my opinion. Natural isn't always better either. Just think about why Europe has had problems with outbreaks of mad cow disease but America hasn't. I'd still take all the chemicals in cheap American foods over the blood and nervous tissue in cheap European foods if I absolutely had to have a binary choice. Aspartame isn't giving you BSE decades later, it's just making you a little sicker now and if you don't consume it habitually you'll probably recover fine.

    Life is complicated and this is not the most useful place for me to teach people but at least I'm stoking some kind of fire to inspire you to look into these things yourselves so I don't have to hang around here and hopefully eventually you won't either, and that's what counts.

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