Visual Identification Project (IEI edition)

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I am planning to write a longer post on my website about how people with the same type can sometimes be extremly similar but it might be constructive to have a thread here so I can think about how I am going to structure things. this is not a thread about type discussions. I just simply want to highlight visual aspects and got inspired by this video:



not only do the people in the video look like twins, they also behave in a similar way.


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/doppelgangers-dont-just-look-alike-they-also-share-dna-180980635/

this article points out that:

"new research suggests that doppelgängers have more in common than meets the eye. People with very similar faces also share many of the same genes and lifestyle traits, according to a new paper published Tuesday in the journal Cell Reports."

all the examples in this thread are IEI from my point of view. please accept it and don't start unnecessary debates. this thread is not about type discussions and focuses completely on visual elements. I'm going to post here from time to time.

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this person got interviewed by Jack from World Socionics Society and looks like Barack Obama. I want to highlight that I do not endorse Jack or have anything to do with his school of socionics. I just thought the interview was interesting.



Barack Obama and Indonesian president Joko Widodo look alike



"the guardian" wrote an article about a person who looks similar to Obama.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguard...ger-ilham-anas



While Jack is a right-wing conservative, there's also leftist youtuber Vaush who creates videos with political commentary. I think they look alike in some of their videos.





I do not get along with Jack but think that Vaush makes a lot of points I can relate to, which makes me think that political orientation (which might be a core structure of personality that's relatively fixed) is more important than type compatibility, because I think Vaush and Jack have the same sociotype. It likely also heavily influences relationship stability between people.

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@Subteigh: while your points are interesting, the main point of this thread is really just to collect visual similarities. I personally won't participate in discussions here.

Yevgeny Prigozhin looks similar to Pope Francis. conservative german politician Friedrich Merz also looks a bit similar



Ryan Gosling looks like Amin al-Husseini, a muslim leader and nationalist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini



soccer player Eric Cantona looks similar to mathematician Grigori Perelman



this youtuber, who creates videos about math, looks like Jeff Bezos



Bill Ackman also resembles Jeff Bezos in my opinion

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Visual identification for Socionics would probably be feasible if Socionics is true, but alas, it's lacking objective definitions and is in all probability false.

However, I'll try and put some readily observable traits of people based on what I've read from Big Five research, I think it'd have some applicability to Socionics if it was true. I'm just going from what I recall, so some of the details may be wrong or weak.

Having tattoos and piercings is associated with higher levels of openness to experience, and lower levels of agreeableness and lower levels of conscientiousness (the more abnormal and in-your-face they are, I guess the more likely they are to be XNTP traits). Gang\criminal tattoos are probably more associated with XSTP.

Having a friendly expression as well as smiling is correlated with extroversion and agreeableness.

Dying your hair unusual colours is associated with openness to experience and maybe also extroversion and agreeableness: regarding dying hair, this is perhaps the one where my memory is weakest.

Long hair is associated with lower levels of conscientiousness. I can see why it would but also why it wouldn't: on one hand, it takes some persistence to grow your hair long, and on the otherhand, short hair is possibly a sign you have your hair cut regularly even if it strictly it is only a sign you had your hair cut recently. I can see conscientious people having their hair cut short (and being clean-shaven, where applicable) as part of a way they keep a "neat" appearance in their view. I can also see how punks and other social contrarians might cut their hair short. I think there are also different dynamics for gender too.

Having a pickup truck is correlated with being more likely to be a Trump supporter and conservative - especially if you have a Confederate flag I guess, so a sign of below average openness to experience.

Having a display of religiosity is also a sign of conservatives and below average openness to experience and above average conscientiousness (probably other traits too).

I'll post more if I can think of more or re-discover more.

[Aster]

@Asleep I want an IEI twin

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Claire Boucher, also known as Grimes, looks similar to Margaret Mead, who was a cultural anthropologist. Grimes also resembles Emily Dickinson



and weirdly enough, Talulah Riley, who was also in a relationship with Elon Musk. I think Grimes also looks a bit like Frida Kahlo



Candace Owens looks like her. Shivon Zilis, with whom Elon Musk also has children with, looks somewhat similar to grimes too, but not as much. she does however look a bit like actress Samara Weaving



who looks like actress Denise Richards, Margot Robbie and Jaime Pressly...



Margot Robbie and Jaime Pressly look in fact so similar, you can mesh their faces together



Heath Ledger and Joseph Gordon-Levitt



Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Coach Nico Kovac

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L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of scientology, looks like filmmaker Christopher Nolan



actors Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Javier Bardem look like twins



artist Little Simz in my opinion resembles soccer player Kylian Mbappé



she wrote an excellent song that is basically about being an INFx personality type

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with the help of his community, youtuber penguinz0 has found several people who look like him and also behave in a similar way

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two more penguinz0 look-a-likes (I can only upload 4 videos per post)





Nicole Poturalski and Irina Shayk are both models and look like twins.



Denise Ohnona and Kate Moss



Stephen Colbert and Bob Saget look very similar and guess what, they are both comedians



Kofi Annan won a nobel peace price but also looks like actor Morgan Freeman. novelist Wole Soyinka also resembles them.



novelist Abdulrazak Gurnah slightly resembles them, also soul singer Robert Finley who also looks like Jimy Hendrix





Gil Scott Heron and Jimy Hendrix also look similar



Musician Andre 3000 played Jimy Hendrix



and resembles Sly Stone



he also looks like quarterback Robert Griffin III



Tupac looks like Kobe Bryant



the basketball players Mookie Blaylock and Michael Jordan look very similar



soccer players Roy Makaay and Luiz Suárez also look-a-like



Sergio Ramos and Joseph Stalin



Mesut Özil and Enzo Ferrari



Luka Modric, Johan Cruyff and David Guetta



Memphis Depay from the Netherlands and Neymar.



Florian Wirtz from Germany, Netherlands Goalkeeper Bart Verbruggen



Lionel Messi and Björn Borg

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musician Jack White and actor johnny depp



actor Cillian Murphy and musician Jonny Greenwood



PJ Harvey, Julia Holter



Marlene Dietrich and Marylin Monroe



James Brolin, the father of Josh Brolin, and Christian Bale, all three are actors



Lana Del Rey and Priscilla Presley



Hannah Davis and Fiona Apple



Fiona Apple and rapper Ty Dolla $ign...



Joni Mitchell and Nico



Feist and Patti Smith

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Jordan Peterson and artist MC Escher



writer Hermann Hesse, german politician Karl Lauterbach


Stanley Kubrick and Salman Rushdie



musicians Runtown and Kendrick Lamar look almost identical. they also look like handball player Benoit Kounkoud and rapper King Los



B.O.B. and JPEGMafia

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Stan Lee and Gino Paoli



Scarlett Johansson and Amber Heard

[Sol]

anyone has one head. all people are similar. hence all are IEI

psyche traits should be decided on a behavior

> not only do the people in the video look like twins, they also behave in a similar way

to have much similarly in appearance does not mean to have same Jung types
to have much different appearance does not mean to have differing Jung types

only a behavior can be linked directly with Jung types theory

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Talking Heads Frontman David Byrne and philosopher Robert Nozick, scholar Douglas Hofstadter, who wrote books like "Gödel, Escher, Bach", and Carl Sagan. I think each person looks a little like the next one.



Kurt Gödel and Samuell Beckett don't exactly look alike, but I thought it was interesting that they both have a black strand of hair. might be purely coincidental, though



Billy Joel and Sylvester Stallone

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IEI's with very artistic tendencies tend to potray themselves in an otherworldy or reflective way

film director Andrey Tarkovsky and Robert Bresson and also writer Osamu Dazai and Aldous Huxley



author Olaf Stapledon and scientist Alan Turing



The Doors front man Jim Morrison and Nick Drake



Van Morrison and Don McLean

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George Jones and Jim Carrey



Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carr

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Dustin Hofmann, Leonard Cohen, Al Pacino, J.D. Salinger

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youtuber Ray William Johnson reminds me a lot of green day singer Billie Joe Armstrong



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-IuU3S9tQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTGr5t3MoY

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David Cameron and Marc Zuckerberg



musician Barry White, chess player Hikaru Nakamura and Jazz player Charles Mingus

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Alan Rickman, Simon Phillips, Elliott Smith, german musician Bela B

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actor William H. Macy and german musician Helge Schneider

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Allen Ginsberg and Francis Ford Coppola



Allen Ginsberg & Jeff Goldblum

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Glenn Gould and Christian Bale

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several film directors (spielberg, spike lee, coppola etc.) share the same style which is quite common among artists

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Burt Reynolds and Marlon Brando

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Leonardo DiCaprio and Jack Nicholson



young Walt Disney and german comedian Jan Böhmermann



chess player José Raúl Capablanca and Simon Krätschmer, another german comedian

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Grace Kelly and Ingrid Bergman



Jane Levy and Emma Stone

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soccer player David Alaba and musician Tyler, the Creator



David Alaba also looks like Kingslay Coman and they even played for the same team. basketball player Iman Shumpert also looks like them
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basketball player Nihad Djedovic and soccer player Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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I think these two youtubers resemble each other in some facial expressions







one day sol will get banned and I'm gonna be happy (it happened and I'm happy).

this woman from east africa reminds me of Cardi B in the way she carries herself.





actor Donald Glover and youtuber Jordan Howlett resemble each other



https://www.youtube.com/@jordan_the_stallion8

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phew, first page done. I'm gonna take a break for a while. still have many examples to go through, but it's quite time consuming. you can find countless of doppelgänger blogs on the internet that contain half of the examples here, so I'm not sure if it's even all that important, considering that I think over 90% of all actors, professional musicians, celebrities etc. are IEI anyway. I have been wondering if I should also include non-famous people, as you can find countless examples too, probably even more, as you are not limited to a smaller pool of people

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Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, a german conservative politician, and Veronika Grimm, a well-known economist in germany



I'm more and more leaning towards the idea that every type has a myriad of subtypes and saying things like "this person has Fe" is somewhat pointless because every function can likely show itself through different ways. I think the more emotional IEI's are more idealistic, artistic, and care a lot about social issues, while there is a group of IEI who can be considered realists, pragmatists, and consider themselves individualistic and both groups pretty much seem to hate each other. It's really unclear to me how many of these variations exist, though. I'm just making observations

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writer H.P. Lovecraft and american president Woodrow Wilson



In almost all of Lovecraft’s stories, the narrator or protagonist is a scholar, someone of high education, good social breeding and standing, and possessor of a healthy skepticism. In other words, the characters are, in many cases, reflections of Lovecraft himself. His rationalism and disdain for religion in all its forms built upon established classical mythology and resulted in something new and revolutionary.

Wilson's tariff, banking, and regulatory reforms were driven more by a quest for rationality and efficiency than by empathy and compassion.

Alec Baldwin and president Millard Fillmore



Bill Nye and president Abraham Lincoln



president Andrew Johnson and Tommy Lee Jones

[misanthropex6]

lmfao

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Astrid Lindgren and Albert Einstein

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Brett Cooper and Ben Shapiro, two conservative public figures, communicate in a similar way and also have the same ideological convictions

posted it in another thread but it fits here oo:

Ben Shapiro, who works with Brett Cooper at the Daily Wire, looks like actor Daniel Doheny





What's interesting is that Cooper and Shapiro communicate and behave in exactly the same way and are both right-wing conservatives, but actor Daniel Doheny can be considered more emotional and liberal, so they would probably hate each other, despite Shapiro and Doheny looking identical. the film Doheny stares in seems very bad and forgettable, but you can derive some conclusions from it. Doheny fits the definition of the socionics IEI much more as "sensible idealistic artist" (in this case actor), so you could say that socionics VI doesn't really work, and simiarities are merely a coincidence. I personally do not share this view though, as it does often seem that people who look the same behave the same. the other argument you could make, which I personally believe might be the case, is that there's a fixed number of subtypes within each type and the closer people of the same type are to a subtype, the more they are going to relate to one another. whether or not that subtype is flexible enough to change during ones life is another question, though. there's also the question whether or not that subtype is determined by someones genetics. I personally doubt that people "choose" to be philosophers or artists, so I think the latter is the case. what I also think is that most type descriptions are wrong or at least very limited or inaccurate and based on a small sample size and not the whole population.

the magic of visual identification:



this youtuber, who speaks fluent chinese and fits my definition of Ni as theoretical perfectionism also resembles Ben Shapiro in my opinion and is probably more similar to him overall

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painter Nicolae Grigorescu and actor Orlando Bloom



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Grigorescu

General George S. Patton and Donald Trump



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton

Patton's colorful image, hard-driving personality, and success as a commander were at times overshadowed by his controversial public statements. His philosophy of leading from the front, and his ability to inspire troops with attention-getting, vulgarity-laden speeches

Emmanuel Macron and french writer Boris Vian



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Vian

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Jeremy Allen White and Gene Wilder



officer Douglas MacArthur

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_MacArthur

looks imo like Leonard Cohen in the first picture



and like Bruce Willis in this picture



this person who is sharing her life and her fight against ALS on youtube looks like Greta Thunberg

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German man discovers that the eight billion people in the world have doppelgangers: the thread.

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German man discovers that the eight billion people in the world have doppelgangers: the thread.

random german man discovers after a decade of being involved in typology that all public figures have the same sociotype and that the other 15 are heavily underrepresented which has huge implications for our collective, global society and the dynamics happening within it. instead of having countless subjective debates about it that don't lead anywhere due to people having their own cognitive biasis, he tries to find some objective way to proof his observations with photos and videos that support his claim. Like it is with many discoveries, most people around him do not understand what he is doing or seeing and instead criticize him, but over time it will become apparent that he was right.