Alive's LIE examples

[Ikite iru]

just a short list of people I would type as LIE. I'm still sorting through potential examples so it's "work in progress" I guess. I double checked many people I thought were LIE in the past and changed my mind to IEI. I personally think that "entrepreneur" is not a good name for this type but I also don't like "politician" for SEE as these definitions are professions which are not type related. From a typology perspective, I think it might be better to just have a few examples but you know they are correct. I also think Fi is not that interested in entertaining other people, making gamma and delta far less likely to upload videos of themselves

Alexandra Botez

chess player who also streams on twitch



Sara Finance

youtuber that looks very similar to Botez



Lori Greiner

[Ikite iru]

german examples

Carsten Maschmeyer

I think the woman who interviews him is an LIE as well



Judith Williams

german teleshopping personality, worked with Maschmeyer in a german equivalent of Shark Tank. the younger person she is interviewing might also be an LIE but I'm not a 100% sure.



Diana zur Löwen



Louisa Dellert



I think Diana and Louisa communicate in an very similar way. this post might be interesting to @Chae and @FDG

[Sol]

Alexandra Botez - mb ENFJ

Sara Finance
> youtuber that looks very similar to Botez
yeah. also looks cute and not LIE. mb LII

Carsten Maschmeyer - I, mb LII
Judith Williams - F
Diana zur Lowen - more for F
Louisa Dellert - more for S

@FreelancePoliceman
this and themes:
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-s-IEI-typings
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
relate to "Famous People" section
or
sections specific for some of types: "Alpha Quadra", "Beta Quadra", etc

[FDG]

They look cute i'd hit it

[Adam Strange]

They look cute i'd hit it

Not me. Sex with an Identical is like masturbating in a room with another person there.

I much prefer the give and take of ESIs, even though the best sex partners I've had have been LSIs. I've found that the LSIs grate on me when we're not in bed, and eventually the pain of the grate exceeds the pleasure of the sex. This doesn't happen with my Duals.

[FDG]

Not me. Sex with an Identical is like masturbating in a room with another person there.

I much prefer the give and take of ESIs, even though the best sex partners I've had have been LSIs. I've found that the LSIs grate on me when we're not in bed, and eventually the pain of the grate exceeds the pleasure of the sex. This doesn't happen with my Duals.

It's because you are getting too picky

[Ikite iru]

Interesting to see that all the "Te base types" immediatly write romantic responses instead of just neutrally commenting. It's almost as if the three people above me are ethical types

[Adam Strange]

It's because you are getting too picky

Man, you are so right.

[FDG]

Interesting to see that all Ti bases immediately write romantic responses instead of neutrally commenting...

[Ikite iru]

Interesting to see that all Ti bases immediately write romantic responses instead of neutrally commenting...

What do you mean? You, Adam and sol immediatly commented on the physical attraction of the people in the videos, which is a rather weird thing to do for logical types

[FDG]

What do you mean? You, Adam and sol immediatly commented on the physical attraction of the people in the videos, which is a rather weird thing to do for logical types

What do you mean? Alive immediately commented on the physical attraction of the people in the videos, which is a rather weird thing to do for logica types

[Ikite iru]

What do you mean? Alive immediately commented on the physical attraction of the people in the videos, which is a rather weird thing to do for logica types

You make me more and more certain that you are an ethical type haha

[FDG]

You make me more and more certain that you are an ethical type haha

You make me more and more certain that you are an ethical type ahaha

[Adam Strange]

What do you mean? You, Adam and sol immediatly commented on the physical attraction of the people in the videos, which is a rather weird thing to do for logical types

No, I commented on @FDG's post. I don't think the people in the videos above are very attractive, and I don't think they are all LIEs, either.

In general, I do think that logical types are aware of the physical attractiveness of others. It's one of the things that we, ourselves, are missing, so we would naturally seek it. Se HA.

[FDG]

In general, I do think that logical types are aware of the physical attractiveness of others. It's one of the things that we, ourselves, are missing, so we would naturally seek it.

Geez speak for yourself

[Ikite iru]

Geez speak for yourself

You are doing something called "nachahmen", which is something ethical types do to ridicule someone. It is more common among women from my observation, making me think you are rather feminine irl.

[FDG]

Desso no se pol gnanca guardar na bea tosa che Alive rompe i cojoni...ma dc

[FDG]

You are doing something called "nachahmen", which is something ethical types do to ridicule someone. It is more common among women from my observation, making me think you are rather feminine irl.

Yes you found out, I actually have a vagina

[Ikite iru]

Yes you found out, I actually have a vagina

It's an indication that someone values Fe

[FDG]

It's an indicating that someone values Fe

Everyone with a vagina values Fe?

[Ikite iru]

Everyone with a vagina values Fe?

No, people that ridicule others by imitating them or deliberately misunderstand what they are saying value Fe, which is exactly what you are doing right now.

[BrainlessSquid]

He's getting saner.
And yeah, I'd hit on the first two also.

[FDG]

Louisa Dellert seems SEE to me

[Metaphor]

Alexandra Botez is a fine example of what an LIE looks like, but not sure about the others on that regard.

[Metaphor]

Not me. Sex with an Identical is like masturbating in a room with another person there.

I much prefer the give and take of ESIs, even though the best sex partners I've had have been LSIs. I've found that the LSIs grate on me when we're not in bed, and eventually the pain of the grate exceeds the pleasure of the sex. This doesn't happen with my Duals.

LSI women in the bed huh, sounds like a great pleasure to have.

[Sol]

Sex with an Identical is like masturbating in a room with another person there.

I'd offer such comparision for cases when people have no significant sexual attraction and deep love, so stay separated on mind level, during sex too - not much together, too stay on own. To have a duality is not enough to change the situation, where there is no deep love and strong sexual attraction. Examples are when people do not want a marriage and do not want to born kids.

There should be many identical/mirror pairs. Sexual attraction may exist in any IR, while close types help to establish acceptable relations. People make families of comrades. Surface and boring but not bad cooperation, without strong conflicts initially. Problems appear later, as sexual interest reduces and appear thoughts "what is else there".
I knew 2 pairs with these two IR which have finished by a cheating (from man side) and then break. One existed for long. Both relations did not hold new stressful life conditions - probably people noticed that could not give enough support during that. But when life conditions were stable and not bad - relations looked normal in anything.

> I much prefer the give and take of ESIs, even though the best sex partners I've had have been LSIs.

Some T type may be your dual. Not ESI.

[nifl]

Lori Greiner is probably IEI (opposite day?)

[Ikite iru]

Lori Greiner is probably IEI (opposite day?)

I think Sara Blakely is more of an IEI. It's possible that Fi is simply not expressing itself on stage so almost all of the entrepreneurs you are seeing on tv are F types while the real LIE just work without talking about it on camera. Being on stage or in an audience, you adjust the things you do or say to how the audience responds, which is Fe. Fi on the other hand is always just itself. Mark Cuban is another example of someone that appears LIE from the theory but is an IEI. Kevin O'Leary also seems like a clear LIE from a shallow glance but is an F type too. "Entrepreneur" is not a good name for LIE

[Ikite iru]

Some T type may be your dual. Not ESI

I think there's not a single LIE on this site. Maybe they were here in the past, but none of the current users are T

[Zero]

I think there's not a single LIE on this site. Maybe they were here in the past, but none of the current users are T

Sounds like you really are Asleep

[Finaplex]

@Asleep

Your avatar is so artistic and creative and mysterious and dramatic. Love it.

I guess logical INTjs are multi-faceted. Wow go figures.

[Sol]

I guess logical INTjs are multi-faceted.

Behavior looks as "multi-faceted" from types point when exists lack of data and typing skills.

[Finaplex]

Behavior looks as "multi-faceted" from types point when exists lack of data and typing skills.

The avatar was used as a data point. Did that go over your head, bud? Also knowledge of INTjs here in North America irl.

Why not put your money where your mouth is and show the forum your type me video, Sol?

[Sol]

@Finaplex
Also strong contradictions in behavior related to types can be from: inadequate methods (as physiognomy), wrong theory (baseless fantasies).
And for minority (<20%) of people with significant behavior anomalies (disorders, substances, other) just is needed more of data. I recently saw a girl who had nonverbal behavior and even some claims to suppose T-I. After gathering more of data, where she behaved "as common", - the opinion has changed to EIE. I suspect psyche issues at her and possible sedatives.

[Ikite iru]

Just shut up sol. You don't have to vomit your repetitive nonsense onto every thread
@FreelancePoliceman: I won't post in this thread anymore. You can close it. I'm going to display the example on my own website

[Finaplex]

@Asleep

You might as well keep the thread open, I started the derail and I apologize.

Carry on

[Ikite iru]

@Asleep

You might as well keep the thread open, I started the derail and I apologize.

Carry on

I don't mind it, but sol is just gonna spam this thread with non-topic related filler garbage and I would rather give him less of a platform to do so. I've uploaded this section to my german website so I doubt I'm going to bother posting here again. There wasn't a single insightful comment in this thread. The EIE one is better because it is closed for discussion. Even in the VI thread I made with only photos sol couldn't keep himself from writing unrelated stuff. He's like a cockroach that needs constant attention. He's so much of a stain on this site that I almost see no point posting here anymore

[Lord Pixel]

Nah we need people like @Sol around here, wouldn't be the same without em.

[Sol]

wouldn't be the same without em

Not for Alive, who has some thinking issues and projects own NF type on anyone.
Those who use physiognomy for typing, what he does also, may have problems too.
On them rational criticism is doubtful to influence.

[Ikite iru]

I don't use physiognomy, I just simply noticed that people with the same type look similar, and I have a very good eye for facial features. sol is a dipshit that self-typed himself as the exact opposite of his real type, and for decades he has been telling people how stupid their logic is when he isn't even a T type himself. If he missed his type slightly I would have looked over it, but typing yourself LSE when you are a tarot reading, ASMR watching nerd is a special kind of stupid. Few people achieve such massive stupidity here