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    If you knew things about politics, things that most people don't know about, would you tell it to the people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    I don't think Joe Biden will be able to end his first term. He probably doesn't even know where he is when he wakes up in the morning.
    When I was traveling every week for business, there were many days when I didn't know where I was when I woke up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    I don't think Joe Biden will be able to end his first term. He probably doesn't even know where he is when he wakes up in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizz View Post
    If you knew things about politics, things that most people don't know about, would you tell it to the people?
    It depends on whether or not I thought they might benefit from knowing.

    Here is an example: There are only two classes in society which matter; the rich and the politically powerful. When those two classes are the same people, there is no revolution. When they are different people, there will be a revolution.

    Would I tell that to a random stranger? Probably not, because they wouldn't have context and probably wouldn't care, so I'd be wasting my time and theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    When I was traveling every week for business, there were many days when I didn't know where I was when I woke up.
    Yes, but you certainly remembered your age when you woke up even if you didn't know where you were...

    Jokes aside, I really feel sorry for him, it's quite heartbreaking to watch a person struggling like this.

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    I read today that Tucker's and Hunter's families are close. I know the guy who said it. I would trust this one even though it doesn't change much but it's still kinda interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    It depends on whether or not I thought they might benefit from knowing.

    Here is an example: There are only two classes in society which matter; the rich and the politically powerful. When those two classes are the same people, there is no revolution. When they are different people, there will be a revolution.

    Would I tell that to a random stranger? Probably not, because they wouldn't have context and probably wouldn't care, so I'd be wasting my time and theirs.
    What's the criteria for being rich?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizz View Post
    What's the criteria for being rich?
    Here's a pretty good criterion for being rich. Your mileage may vary.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/pers...wealthy-2019-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Here's a pretty good criterion for being rich. Your mileage may vary.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/pers...wealthy-2019-8
    3 million and 150k a year in US? That's not rich. That's working class level, middle class.

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    millions will join fabricated wars to kill others like themselevs, commit attrocities rape and pillage while thinking they are in the right, but they will not risk their lives to attack their own corrupt government offiicials leaders and systems that commit sex and child trafficking, abuse, brainwash and propaganda programs, control the media, the resources and politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Here's a pretty good criterion for being rich. Your mileage may vary.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/pers...wealthy-2019-8
    Living off passive income just seems fundamentally wrong to me in a society where it's only for few, mostly those who have inherited their fortune.
    If you're still perfectly capable of working, you should be working to benefit everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Living off passive income just seems fundamentally wrong to me in a society where it's only for few, mostly those who have inherited their fortune.
    I absolutely agree that living off passive income is fundamentally wrong in a society where it's only for a few, mostly for those who have inherited their fortune.
    Living off passive income should be available to everyone, regardless of their level of wealth.
    Most societies today are rich enough to provide a basic living wage for every citizen, and the benefits of this include a society in which people get even richer, because they aren't distracted by the possibility of starvation if they have one single financial incident.

    In a way, we already support people to about a 99% level. I didn't have to work to get a language or a political system. Instead, I just inherited them. The same thing applies to most things in my world. The only areas where it doesn't apply are in financial surplus, and even that is underwritten by society, in the sense that other people work to preserve the status quo and keep strangers from stealing my stuff.

    All that aside, I do not favor a society which allows inheritance. Imagine what the richest people would have to create in order to ensure that their own children would do well, if their children could not inherit directly but rather could only rise or fall through using the resources available equally to everyone in society.

    You might get a society in which billionaires want to build schools and hospitals.

    Personally, I inherited from my parents an amount equal to about eight months of my present income. It was nice, but not world-changing in the way a decent health care system in the States might be. I'd gladly trade the former for the latter.


    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    If you're still perfectly capable of working, you should be working to benefit everyone.
    I have a hard time with this one. I've always been capable of working, but I really don't want to work to benefit anyone other than myself. That sounds like slavery to me. But maybe I've misinterpreted what you meant.

    If you live in Europe, you might be seeing average wages falling and industrial factory owners and their families getting ridiculously rich, basically on the backs of the common worker.
    What you are seeing is real, but it is a consequence of an economy in which export sectors of the economy (basically, factories) are subsidized by government policies which work to make those export goods cheap and therefore competitive in the world markets. The policies basically force workers to subsidize the owners of factories. The policies lower the factory's costs by suppressing unions and by suppressing worker wages. The policies include an undervalued currency, which increases the profits of factory owners who sell goods, and makes everything which is imported more expensive for workers to buy. These policies increase the price competitiveness of the manufacturing and export sectors at the expense of the household's ability to consume.
    This price competitiveness in global markets is not a result of virtuous increased production efficiency by the factories, but rather is a consequence of class war between the rich and the workers inside a country.
    Right now, Germany is running a huge surplus in trade. German workers are getting poorer and German factory owners are getting fabulously rich.
    This isn't a law of nature, like gravitation. This is a result of intentional trade agreements, made by those German factory owners in a very non-democratic way, and enforced by their actors in government.

    This might be why you are noticing that a few, who have inherited their fortunes, are reaping the rewards of unbalanced and unfair trade agreements and are getting passive income, while everyone else has to work forever.
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    1. Japan is the most average nation on Planet Earth.
    2. The United States is having a very hard time competing with the Japanese, academically speaking.
    3. Therefore the United States is below average, academically speaking.
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    Yet another one Joe Biden's faux pas and its consequences on an entire country.


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    @godslave Aren't you French? Just wondering; why do you care what an American President says about another country?

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    Japan has the right to be xenophobic if they want to. Perhaps they have reason to doubt that the mystery meat model of Brazil or the righteous brotherhood model of South Africa are the ideal societies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    @godslave Aren't you French? Just wondering; why do you care what an American President says about another country?
    Yes I'm French (Franco-Tunisian).I care about all my fellow human beings ! I was just observing that he lacked a bit of diplomacy. I don't blame him because he is an old man and well, he manifestly has some issues relative to his age. I was touched by some japaneses having their feelings hurt. I mean, I love Japan and its culture very much and I felt kinda sad about this incident. That said, just like you and probably all the people of the "Free world", I was raised in an environment where the USA culture was very present so in a way, ich bin (auch) ein Amerikaner !



     
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    Yesterday in the chat @Ikite iru brought an interesting take on the development of society becoming more and more "fascist" like.



    I agree that something is changing and I see signs of "fascism" everywhere. I think PC is a real killer, I mean there is a kind of inquisition of thoughts that doesn't say its name, lingering in the atmosphere of the zeitgeist, one can almost smell its stench. I mean, we are living in a time where people can't let their idea run free, that's censorship. The inquisition doesn't have any sense of humour, let alone self-derision. It can't take a joke, so everybody has to be careful, that's censorship.

    People know it when they are not free anymore, when they keep to themselves even the basic common sense and bend the knee to whatever God-like Lobby which have the power to make them or break them. We find "watchdogs" at all level of society, the problem is when the system which is supposed to watch the watchdogs is broken.


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    ppl who hate gays are gay
    ppl who hate women are also gay
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